What's The Point Anymore?

ogunernile
ogunernile Posts: 99 Arc User
edited August 2012 in General Discussion
Good day, lots of people come on here and post ops and walkthroughs, ideas and recipes. Basically, anything that they wanna put here cause this is where those who give a damn come to check on what's going on in PWI.

I hope this doesn't sound like 'QQ'ing. my intentions are alot more simple. I would like to draw awareness to the issues we all know are messed up in this game. Unbalance..even after the supposed expansion that was meant to balance he classes. Useless pk classes...seekers in particular...and just the general distancing of the support staff from the ones that need help...the players.

These are some of my biggest gripes but what I am asking for is help. Help to show the devs that they can be in our good graces again, that it matters even if we are westerners and not Asian. They can make this game great again and reverse the trend. They measure growth by the amount of new players not realizing the population is actually shrinking, more people are making alts.

Why not make the classes balanced? Why not playtest a skill or ability thru the players before putting it into play? Why not have a more vigilant staff that is eager to help rather than ignore? These are just some of my suggestions. I would like to hear more. Please refrain from trolling or insulting each other. i'd like the powers that be to be able to look and see something useful they can use. help my crack-head Uncle PWI get off drug and become a sane and sober game again. b:cry
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  • Mingkeey - Lost City
    Mingkeey - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    My pwi days are coming to a end.After playing for four years.Really no point on getting recast r9 gear.It cost to much.Consumes way to my life if you want to farm it.There are only two spots to pvp.Same pack sale every week.Its boring now.New games to play.I like to log in and say hi then i get bored after 10mins -.-
  • BerserkBeast - Sanctuary
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PvP its always - ALWAYS ruled but those who put in the highest cash on their gear -- player's skills are a minor factor in PvP compared to their equips.

    You want be competitive?,spend your cash -- you want be competitive without spending tons of money?,go back to the dream land b:bye

    Class are unbalanced?,pick the most OP one then.
    You don't want to?,your loss.
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  • Retsuko - Heavens Tear
    Retsuko - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,016 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PvP its always - ALWAYS ruled but those who put in the highest cash on their gear -- player's skills are a minor factor in PvP compared to their equips.

    You want be competitive?,spend your cash -- you want be competitive without spending tons of money?,go back to the dream land b:bye

    Class are unbalanced?,pick the most OP one then.
    You don't want to?,your loss.

    Classic example of a lazy newb who's QQ'ing over gear difference and cash shoppers.

    I know people who have or are close to s3 r9 without spending money on the game. It's called farming and playing with your coin/gold wisely.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Why not realize your thread is not read by the devs, the devs are in China. The CM and GMs that might read your thread govern only the cashshop.
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    No! They actually did nerf something! Sage archers got nerfed again. b:surrender
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I know people who have or are close to s3 r9 without spending money on the game. It's called farming and playing with your coin/gold wisely.

    Classic example of some delusional person with too much time on their hands.

    If we were talking about nirvana equipment here, then sure. It's farmable by just about any dedicated player. But R9? With high refines? That's something worthy of a newspaper article; ''Person accumulates over $10.000 worth of virtual items by playing videogames''.

    And you expect everyone who wants to have some fun in pvp to do that? Get real.
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    No! They actually did nerf something! Sage archers got nerfed again. b:surrender

    What did they do? Haven't played my archer for a while now, only picking up keys. b:sad
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    What did they do? Haven't played my archer for a while now, only picking up keys. b:sad

    Wingspan no longer gives 100 chi but only 50 now >.>.

    And yes I do use it for that extra spark in PvE and sometimes PvP on a nearby mob ;p
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Wingspan no longer gives 100 chi but only 50 now >.>.

    And yes I do use it for that extra spark in PvE and sometimes PvP on a nearby mob ;p

    Can't have skills giving too much chi, now do we? *cough* sins *cough*
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Can't have skills giving too much chi, now do we? *cough* sins *cough*

    Ya god forbid the almost non-existent Sage Cultivated Archers get one of the few perks in their favor over demon nerfed down making Demon a much better option these days until complete endgame gear. >_>

    and IKR?! why archers and not sins getting nerfed >_>
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  • Morridune - Raging Tide
    Morridune - Raging Tide Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    well sadly boys and girls balancing the classes would be a good business decision ( if people are willing to spent $$ to OP one toon they'll do it for others so long as it gets the same results in a$$ kickery..think it thro pwi 10 toons per account over 1 we'd spend our cash on) and it seems there out of fashion in the empty halls of PWI development, ofc this would also benefit those players not selling off pension funds to fuel their pixel death fixes also and gosh posible go some way to repairing pwi's/PWE's slightly battered reputation bt hey this has all been said b4 by me and prolly 1k other players
  • Nael - Dreamweaver
    Nael - Dreamweaver Posts: 200 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PvP its always - ALWAYS ruled but those who put in the highest cash on their gear -- player's skills are a minor factor in PvP compared to their equips.

    You want be competitive?,spend your cash -- you want be competitive without spending tons of money?,go back to the dream land b:bye

    Class are unbalanced?,pick the most OP one then.
    You don't want to?,your loss.

    To be fair the G16 Nirvana gear is very farmable and it's pretty on par with R9, not counting the armor pieces.
  • jimbillybob46310
    jimbillybob46310 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    YES you are right g16 s3 nirvana is compairable to r9 and totally farmable.
    PROBLEM lies in the fact that by the time you "farm" G16 nirvana, the CSers will have bought stage 3 r9. Now guess what? Your G16 nirvana is once again **** compaired to the s3r9 set bonuses.
    Try to make it all right however you like, bottom line is if you dont spend RL$s you wont be able to compete in this game.
    SO if your here for PvE only, games great, till you reach endgame where you find the game ENDS content wise. IJS
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    YES you are right g16 s3 nirvana is compairable to r9 and totally farmable.
    PROBLEM lies in the fact that by the time you "farm" G16 nirvana, the CSers will have bought stage 3 r9. Now guess what? Your G16 nirvana is once again **** compaired to the s3r9 set bonuses.
    Try to make it all right however you like, bottom line is if you dont spend RL$s you wont be able to compete in this game.
    SO if your here for PvE only, games great, till you reach endgame where you find the game ENDS content wise. IJS

    There is less then a total of 10 people across ALL servers that have coin sinked 10 grand into getting R9 S3. Going from nothing to S3 costs about 9.5billion coins. GL finding anyone willing to spend that on top of the another 1bil+ to shard / refine it considering how much many of them have invested into their current gear.
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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ogunernile wrote: »
    I hope this doesn't sound like 'QQ'ing.

    I stopped to read there.
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  • jimbillybob46310
    jimbillybob46310 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ROFLMFBO
    What about the many people that made BILLIONS last week?
    Wont cost them anymore than the investement they have already made.
    Besides how long exactly in terms of hrs does it take to farm FULL g16 nirvana/molds/essences? Now figure that out in terms of days it takes for a "NEW" player to do this and by the time they get there trust me MANY will have s2 r9 at least. Correct me if im wrong but thats where all the COST is to go from r9 to s3r9 is.
    So your logic is flawed.
    IJS
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ROFLMFBO
    What about the many people that made BILLIONS last week?
    Wont cost them anymore than the investement they have already made.
    Besides how long exactly in terms of hrs does it take to farm FULL g16 nirvana/molds/essences? Now figure that out in terms of days it takes for a "NEW" player to do this and by the time they get there trust me MANY will have s2 r9 at least. Correct me if im wrong but thats where all the COST is to go from r9 to s3r9 is.
    So your logic is flawed.
    IJS

    Find me one person willing to dump the 7.5 billion coins into S2 R9 besdies the few who already did to get S3 and let me know how that goes for you.
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  • jimbillybob46310
    jimbillybob46310 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well thats too simple.
    Ill just watch the next few months, and if what u say is right, there should still only be like 10 s3r9 players TOTAL on all servers.
    IDK maybe ull be right, but i know 4 people personally on HT alone that have s2r9 already, and a few more that have all the mats. They just waiting for a good D.orb sale.
    So once again I believe your opinion is flawed.
    But only time will tell the true story.
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I've always said that there should be a balance subforum to discuss such topics, if only for fun. Really the old class skills that don't do anything need to go.
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    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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    Qui: b:dirty
  • SocialDesire - Archosaur
    SocialDesire - Archosaur Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Perfect World International - Epic Blunder? Lolz.


    I'd like to go out on a song now.... Sing along if you know the lyrics.

    Excalibur, Excalibur
    From United Kingdom
    I'm looking for him
    I'm going to California

    Excalibur, Excalibur
    From United Kingdom
    I'm looking for her
    I'm going to California

    Excalibur
    Excalibur
    Excalibur!
  • TempleSlave - Lost City
    TempleSlave - Lost City Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    This thread isn't just a rehash. It's a rehash of a rehash of a thread beating a dead horse complaining about how threads like that come up all the time complaining about devs that don't care. It has not only been done to death but there are threads about people complaining about threads of people complaining about threads talking about 'the issues' and 'the facts'. The issues are many, the fact is one; no matter how much things can change here, it will always be more of the same.
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  • V_m_ - Harshlands
    V_m_ - Harshlands Posts: 543 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ogunernile wrote: »
    Good day, lots of people come on here and post ops and walkthroughs, ideas and recipes. Basically, anything that they wanna put here cause this is where those who give a damn come to check on what's going on in PWI.

    I hope this doesn't sound like 'QQ'ing. my intentions are alot more simple. I would like to draw awareness to the issues we all know are messed up in this game. Unbalance..even after the supposed expansion that was meant to balance he classes. Useless pk classes...seekers in particular...and just the general distancing of the support staff from the ones that need help...the players.

    These are some of my biggest gripes but what I am asking for is help. Help to show the devs that they can be in our good graces again, that it matters even if we are westerners and not Asian. They can make this game great again and reverse the trend. They measure growth by the amount of new players not realizing the population is actually shrinking, more people are making alts.

    Why not make the classes balanced? Why not playtest a skill or ability thru the players before putting it into play? Why not have a more vigilant staff that is eager to help rather than ignore? These are just some of my suggestions. I would like to hear more. Please refrain from trolling or insulting each other. i'd like the powers that be to be able to look and see something useful they can use. help my crack-head Uncle PWI get off drug and become a sane and sober game again. b:cry

    you have to realize that we get our game updates and everything from CHINA. your consistant complaining on the forums are going to lead no where but you being banned from using them. if you want to complain about the game, complain to the actual game makers and keep the forums free of pointless QQ'ing. b:bye
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  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Classic example of a lazy newb who's QQ'ing over gear difference and cash shoppers.

    I know people who have or are close to s3 r9 without spending money on the game. It's called farming and playing with your coin/gold wisely.

    Yeah... spend 24/7 on the computer to get that stuff... Oh wait, you still forgot the refines! 24/7 some more! Those people have nothing better to do than to sit and play PWI all day. Either that or they were old players that played regularly before gold prices were up and invested nicely. Not everyone does that.

    Either PVE or play a different game if you want to PVP, PWI is not for PVP unless you like fast kills.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

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  • Mekkhala - Lost City
    Mekkhala - Lost City Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Just hint at aps being nerfed and bms/sins go haywire. Or suggest that with the new armor maybe psys shouldn't be able to reach almost 200 def lvls, and you'll get your head bitten off. We all say we want the game to be balanced, and then when something is fixed or nerfed (for example, the bm chi glitch, or the 3 spark knocking sins from stealth, or the GV glitch or the Caster NV glitch- get my point?) we get a massive wave of QQ.

    PWI's mistake was making them OP in the first place. Once you introduce an overpowered class you get 1 half wanting it to stay that way so they can benefit, and the other half crying for it to be changed.

    I'm still shocked at the number of QQing sins over nv3 pants not having int. And the r9 dags not having int THE HELL U NEED INT ON THAT FOR?

    And lol @ devs reading this. The devs are in China.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Perfect World International - Epic Blunder? Lolz.


    I'd like to go out on a song now.... Sing along if you know the lyrics.

    Excalibur, Excalibur
    From United Kingdom
    I'm looking for him
    I'm going to California

    Excalibur, Excalibur
    From United Kingdom
    I'm looking for her
    I'm going to California

    Excalibur
    Excalibur
    Excalibur!

    Hell Yeah Soul Eater!

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  • ogunernile
    ogunernile Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    you have to realize that we get our game updates and everything from CHINA. your consistant complaining on the forums are going to lead no where but you being banned from using them. if you want to complain about the game, complain to the actual game makers and keep the forums free of pointless QQ'ing. b:bye

    okay i am going to try to be understanding even though i asked for no trolls. If you care about something then it is your responsibility to speak up when you are not happy. I am not the only one that feels this way. THESE forums are the only space the given us to vent but rather than just vent i am asking for proposals that can spark new ideas towards fixing things. The devs are in China but internet is global.....understand?
  • Slegtst - Dreamweaver
    Slegtst - Dreamweaver Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The point from PWE's perspective [the only one that counts for them] is probably something like:

    "We are human, we want money."

    Some players still have the idea that their input matters, but it doesnt. Maybe it did in the past, but that moment lies in... the past.
  • Mingkeey - Lost City
    Mingkeey - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    PWI reminds me of Myspace.I feel weird logging on and i'm glad I forgot my myspace password lol!Waiting for what next for pwi.till then b:bye me quit
  • Selak - Dreamweaver
    Selak - Dreamweaver Posts: 462 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    You gotta love armchair pilots b:laugh

    Just out of curiosity I would be interested in knowing how many QQers out there have
    designed their own online MMORPG
    then set up commercial servers and ran them successfully for as long as PWI with all that goes along with it such as forums etc.

    I suspect not many b:chuckle
    There are old Warriors, and bold Warriors,
    but there are very few old bold Warriors. b:chuckle
  • gouraudpalm2
    gouraudpalm2 Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The only point rught now is wasting your money buying virtual ****.