r9 or vana g15 daggers?

orchid102
orchid102 Posts: 43 Arc User
edited July 2012 in General Discussion
Ok so for my sin - Should I get R9 weapon or Get g15 Vana Daggers? wich will be better?

I will use this sin as a SEcondary DD , My primary dd is r9+12 so what you think
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Nirvana G16 > R9

    R9 >Nirvana G15

    Up to you if youre going to get g16 or not.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Well the biggest question is this, do you want to spend 750+ gold to get ring and dagger for your secondary toon or not.

    Next biggest is do you want 5 aps? Yes it is now possible to have r9 daggers and 5 aps with recast r8, but I don't think anyone has succeeded in that yet. And g15 or even g16 nirvana daggers you can get gof + 2x -.05 interval and be 5 aps. It just will take 10-20 rerolls probably, but that's still cheaper then r9 daggers.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited July 2012
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  • orchid102
    orchid102 Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Nirvana G16 > R9

    R9 >Nirvana G15

    Up to you if youre going to get g16 or not.

    iM SORRY but G16 vana is not better than r9 , You can't get Sac strike in the addons.
  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    iM SORRY but G16 vana is not better than r9 , You can't get Sac strike in the addons.

    Sigh.... do I REALLY need to go into the DPS equations?

    Go look in the sin subforums it's been covered like a million times....
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  • orchid102
    orchid102 Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Well the biggest question is this, do you want to spend 750+ gold to get ring and dagger for your secondary toon or not.

    Next biggest is do you want 5 aps? Yes it is now possible to have r9 daggers and 5 aps with recast r8, but I don't think anyone has succeeded in that yet. And g15 or even g16 nirvana daggers you can get gof + 2x -.05 interval and be 5 aps. It just will take 10-20 rerolls probably, but that's still cheaper then r9 daggers.



    You dont get GOF on g16 , that's the problem
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    iM SORRY but G16 vana is not better than r9 , You can't get Sac strike in the addons.

    and your proof that any dagger without sac is worse than r9 is where exactly? b:cute
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  • orchid102
    orchid102 Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    and your proof that any dagger without sac is worse than r9 is where exactly? b:cute

    In the numbers Barb
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    In the numbers Barb

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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    In the numbers Barb
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I'm sitting on the edge of my chair in anticipation to see them

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  • orchid102
    orchid102 Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    YES YES YES .. Sorry everyone You are all Right and I AM wrong - In fact i dont know what im talking about - Thanks for your Time . N ow let's close this pos tread :) b:bye
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I don't really like quoting myself, but whatever.

    Though technically the point that G16 is "inferior" to R9 or G15 because of the lack of Sacrificial Strike and God of Frenzy isn't exactly wrong. G16 has superior average DPS and superior average DPH, but much lower potential DPS and potential DPH. Of course, G16 also has superior minimum DPH and superior minimum DPS. So the R9/G15 is only really "superior" in an idealized, highly unrealistic setting. Which is pretty much like saying "Yeah, you can totally open 100 packs and get 99 Scrolls of Tome"; it's possible but silly to even consider noteworthy.
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  • USSRbm - Heavens Tear
    USSRbm - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Sigh.... do I REALLY need to go into the DPS equations?

    Go look in the sin subforums it's been covered like a million times....

    lol jen. its a lost cause with some kids ;o
  • USSRbm - Heavens Tear
    USSRbm - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Daggers arent the question. your best bet would be to delete the sin and roll a real class.

    b:victoryb:bye
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    In the numbers Barb

    actually i'm a psychic
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    actually i'm a psychic

    Really?! They had to touch FMA with that blasphemy?! Is there anything safe from it? QQ

    On a serious note. At least he understands now.
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    edited July 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Really?! They had to touch FMA with that blasphemy?! Is there anything safe from it? QQ

    On a serious note. At least he understands now.

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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
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    edited July 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Really?! They had to touch FMA with that blasphemy?! Is there anything safe from it? QQ

    On a serious note. At least he understands now.

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  • MiniST - Sanctuary
    MiniST - Sanctuary Posts: 604 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I don't really like quoting myself, but whatever.

    Though technically the point that G16 is "inferior" to R9 or G15 because of the lack of Sacrificial Strike and God of Frenzy isn't exactly wrong. G16 has superior average DPS and superior average DPH, but much lower potential DPS and potential DPH. Of course, G16 also has superior minimum DPH and superior minimum DPS. So the R9/G15 is only really "superior" in an idealized, highly unrealistic setting. Which is pretty much like saying "Yeah, you can totally open 100 packs and get 99 Scrolls of Tome"; it's possible but silly to even consider noteworthy.

    That "idealized, highly unrealistic setting" is called PK.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Really?! They had to touch FMA with that blasphemy?! Is there anything safe from it? QQ

    On a serious note. At least he understands now.

    Um... those kinds of circles aren't exactly exclusive to FMA. Similar things can be seen in in various places.

    I would dig up more if I could remember the specific episodes to dig from. Pretty sure Zero no Tsukaima had something similar going on
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I know of a few things that haven't been assimilated.


    Though in some cases I have to wonder which is doing the assimilation.
  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    orchid102 wrote: »
    You dont get GOF on g16 , that's the problem
    eh sac strike isn't all that great.
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    I know of a few things that haven't been assimilated.


    Though in some cases I have to wonder which is doing the assimilation.

    They assimilated each other.
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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
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    edited July 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Um... those kinds of circles aren't exactly exclusive to FMA. Similar things can be seen in in various places.

    I would dig up more if I could remember the specific episodes to dig from. Pretty sure Zero no Tsukaima had something similar going on

    cleric buffs? XD
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
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    edited July 2012
    The Solution to ponies.

    Legend of Korra > MLP.


    There, I said it.
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    edited July 2012
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The Solution to ponies.

    Legend of Korra > MLP.


    There, I said it.


    well, he should first deal with this and this and then target Princess Celestia (and Princess Luna)b:avoid
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  • Euthymius - Heavens Tear
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    edited July 2012
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The Solution to ponies.

    Legend of Korra > MLP.


    There, I said it.

    Let's do this.

    Though I'd much rather this outcome than an actual battle of course.
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