Concise list of game-fixers

ponyduck
ponyduck Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2012 in General Discussion
Over the time I've been playing game and reading forum, I've seen (as we all
have) the issues that keep coming up over & over again. I'm trying to distill
the problems into a few fixes that I believe are do-able, and would go a long
way toward improving the game.

IMO, here's what u need to do to fix game:

1) STOP SELLING REP IN BOUTIQUE!
This is right off the top of my head one of the things that has most
screwed the game. Others are probably more knowledgable about items
that have messed up the economy, or thrown things off balance in a big way.

2) Limit Frost in some way. Either disallow hypers in there, or fix a
certain level in order to enter it.
No elaboration needed here.

3) Instead of planning any more expansions (if indeed you are), revamp
TW in a major way--new backdrop, new rules, etc. Not being real
familiar w/TW, I'm going to have to depend on others to finesse this.
Revitalizing TW would bring back a lot of high-lvl players who have
drifted away, I think. And we don't need any more expansions, at least
not for a long while--there are enough classes, and there
is a TON of open space already. Start filling it in with stuff.

4) Start chipping away at all the minor bugs/glitches in game. Just fix
them.
Again, really no elaboration needed on this. But a solid, bug-free
simple game is more satisfying than a glitchy one with tons of bells
and whistles. The game is already beautiful--start polishing it.

I'm trying to think of things that are do-able, that would improve the game,
and not disastrously impact PWE's profits.

I really like this game, and would love to see it continue on for some years.
My thinking is if PWE would really put their heart into it to make this some
sort of classic, long-lived mmo, they could re-market it as the "new & improved
PWI" or something like that, and attract not only brand-new players, but ones
who have left.
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ponyduck wrote: »
    ...
    1) STOP SELLING REP IN BOUTIQUE!
    This is right off the top of my head one of the things that has most
    screwed the game. Others are probably more knowledgable about items
    that have messed up the economy, or thrown things off balance in a big way.


    ...

    This will not work because more than half of server have reputation items from CS already ...

    How you can get reputation in game ?

    Can you get 100k or more reputation from quests ?

    If you have rank 8 or even 9 and someone has not it , then what is purpose of your "fix" ?

    Edit:
    It will be not balance, it will be big disbalance.
  • eyebegrindin
    eyebegrindin Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    This will not work because more than half of server have reputation items from CS already ...

    How you can get reputation in game ?

    Can you get 100k or more reputation from quests ?

    If you have rank 8 or even 9 and someone has not it , then what is purpose of your "fix" ?

    Edit:
    It will be not balance, it will be big disbalance.

    FBs, Darkness Stamps, rep from BH100 II, One Man Army quests, quests. i farmed my Sins rank 8 and had 200k before the first cash shop rep sale. 100% doable if you want to put in the time.
  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    FBs, Darkness Stamps, rep from BH100 II, One Man Army quests, quests. i farmed my Sins rank 8 and had 200k before the first cash shop rep sale. 100% doable if you want to put in the time.

    During 1 month or even more my Wizard got just 50 Darkness Stamps (8 reputation each).

    They are at my inventory yet.

    Sorry, but your way is not for me.
  • oxytorch
    oxytorch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Agrees with lvl limit on FF . Also agree with Tw revamp , many many people only log on for TW , this would be in the best interest and beneficial to PW 'and' its Players .
    b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry We love this game STOP RUINING IT !! b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry

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  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I agree with you on these and there is so much more to correct for PWI to be at least 'truly improved' and hopefully attract newcomers or bring back old quitters. But no higher up would want to listen and follow good suggestions, so your ideas will probably fall on deaf ears. b:surrender
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  • XLeetSauce - Dreamweaver
    XLeetSauce - Dreamweaver Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    yes. fix the bugs.

    and a lvl limit for FC has been suggested sense the first person soloed it.
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I call bullsht on the rank 8 without the rep sale :P but thats just me

    Besides at level 100 you can get 1600 rep a day from the morai quests (provided you have enough influence saved up) Really its not that hard now it just takes dedication a few months of work for for Rank 8 and then a few more for rank 9

    Basically if you do all your quests every day it will take about 200 days to get rank 9 and thats pushing it and thats from 0 rep. Or if your like me if I did all my quests every day from around 40k rep it would take me just over 5 months to get rank 9.

    So yah thats a thing
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    FBs, Darkness Stamps, rep from BH100 II, One Man Army quests, quests. i farmed my Sins rank 8 and had 200k before the first cash shop rep sale. 100% doable if you want to put in the time.


    Let calculate amount of Darkness Stamps for rank 8:

    200,000/8=25,000

    Please, describe to me how I can get these.


    ...
    Take out rep? Wut wrong wit u son, u must have got your rep already..if not .gl in the couple thousand fb's u need to do just to hit r8 or the X amount of tokens u need to get that much rep.b:thanks

    I call bullsht on the rank 8 without the rep sale :P but thats just me

    Besides at level 100 you can get 1600 rep a day from the morai quests (provided you have enough influence saved up) Really its not that hard now it just takes dedication a few months of work for for Rank 8 and then a few more for rank 9

    Basically if you do all your quests every day it will take about 200 days to get rank 9 and thats pushing it and thats from 0 rep. Or if your like me if I did all my quests every day from around 40k rep it would take me just over 5 months to get rank 9.

    So yah thats a thing

    Not sure if I will able to do same without rank equipment.
  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    X nevermind -
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited July 2012
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The absolute best expansion they could give us would be the Bugfix Expansion. Where they actually go and work to fix bugs and incomplete/incorrect quests that have plagued this game since before it was in the beta stages.

    We don't want new content, we want old content back, and existing content fixed. Make FCC a farming instance again and fix some freaking bugs already.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Let calculate amount of Darkness Stamps for rank 8:

    200,000/8=25,000

    Please, describe to me how I can get these.

    Darkness Stamps are **** for rep anyway.

    Even without Reputation directly in the Boutique, there would still be the option to buy it with Tokens. Granted, Rank 8 would be at least 6 times as expensive as before. And there were only a handful of people who got it at that time.

    And even if you want to talk about farming reputation, you could do Justice Quests and Wanteds. Much more consistent that doing an FB and hoping you get Darkness Stamps.
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  • Katay - Archosaur
    Katay - Archosaur Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ponyduck wrote: »
    Over the time I've been playing game and reading forum, I've seen (as we all
    have) the issues that keep coming up over & over again. I'm trying to distill
    the problems into a few fixes that I believe are do-able, and would go a long
    way toward improving the game.

    IMO, here's what u need to do to fix game:

    1) STOP SELLING REP IN BOUTIQUE!
    This is right off the top of my head one of the things that has most
    screwed the game. Others are probably more knowledgable about items
    that have messed up the economy, or thrown things off balance in a big way.

    2) Limit Frost in some way. Either disallow hypers in there, or fix a
    certain level in order to enter it.
    No elaboration needed here.

    3) Instead of planning any more expansions (if indeed you are), revamp
    TW in a major way--new backdrop, new rules, etc. Not being real
    familiar w/TW, I'm going to have to depend on others to finesse this.
    Revitalizing TW would bring back a lot of high-lvl players who have
    drifted away, I think. And we don't need any more expansions, at least
    not for a long while--there are enough classes, and there
    is a TON of open space already. Start filling it in with stuff.

    4) Start chipping away at all the minor bugs/glitches in game. Just fix
    them.
    Again, really no elaboration needed on this. But a solid, bug-free
    simple game is more satisfying than a glitchy one with tons of bells
    and whistles. The game is already beautiful--start polishing it.

    I'm trying to think of things that are do-able, that would improve the game,
    and not disastrously impact PWE's profits.

    I really like this game, and would love to see it continue on for some years.
    My thinking is if PWE would really put their heart into it to make this some
    sort of classic, long-lived mmo, they could re-market it as the "new & improved
    PWI" or something like that, and attract not only brand-new players, but ones
    who have left.

    Lets refrase this:

    1- PWI quit making money. You are rich enough at this point.

    2- Make FF worthless, since the mats dont drop anymore. We don't need xp to level either.

    3- Make TW and what not only PVE and not PVP. Cause those are too hard, i can't do it. and still point 1 is active players are BADA$$.

    4- *Actually i agree with this one*

    Just me point of view
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Oh btw, a TW practice mode, with no benefits would be nice indeed. PWI is too much about prizes, there needs to be some content without it. Different options of practice with the usual easy/normal/hard/insane difficulty modes:

    One version with mobs (like when map has to be conquered) and one with bots (fake characters CPU controlled)...

    I guess that would be quite some fun minigames. But that would never be implemented, given the usual attitude of PWE.
    Maintenance time. Please choose a line:
    - When is it over? OMG I need my fix!! *super spazzing*
    - Fix the damn bugs, dammit! I'm so angry! I'll quit!!
    - New codes out there? I like free stuff~ *wink*
    - When will we get new content? QQ
    - Will we get sales? I got a ton of gold to spend.
    - I'm bored, I'll create a useless thread to annoy Opkorock.
    - *Incessant poking on Sweetiebot* Fun~
  • Katay - Archosaur
    Katay - Archosaur Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Oh btw, a TW practice mode, with no benefits would be nice indeed. PWI is too much about prizes, there needs to be some content without it. Different options of practice with the usual easy/normal/hard/insane difficulty modes:

    One version with mobs (like when map has to be conquered) and one with bots (fake characters CPU controlled)...

    I guess that would be quite some fun minigames. But that would never be implemented, given the usual attitude of PWE.

    jes... i was just kidding about PVE thing.. damn you guys are fast .. b:surrender
  • Vyvyan - Dreamweaver
    Vyvyan - Dreamweaver Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The absolute best expansion they could give us would be the Bugfix Expansion. Where they actually go and work to fix bugs and incomplete/incorrect quests that have plagued this game since before it was in the beta stages.

    We don't want new content, we want old content back, and existing content fixed. Make FCC a farming instance again and fix some freaking bugs already.

    This will never happen and you know this. The current team of Dev's didn't develop or code the game. So in the interest of revenue they simply aren't inclined to figure out bugs because they don't understand the base programing of the game.

    Anyone who played Anarchy Online which was a pay to play game knows this. Once the original Dev's were gone the game suffered for years because the new Dev's had no clue how to fix problems and coded expansions on top the original programming which caused more problems. To their credit they did fix things, but PW is cash shop driven so there's no incentive for them to fix things.

    As long as people pay to play a 'free game', i.e to get their R8/R9, the company's only goal is to produce more content that requires the masses to pay more.

    And Ponyduck, did you really need more than 1 thread to state your view?
  • ponyduck
    ponyduck Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012

    And Ponyduck, did you really need more than 1 thread to state your view?

    Why, yes, yes I did.

    Sorry for adding to the VOLUMINOUS number of postings ppl make daily to this
    forum.
  • MageMERC - Harshlands
    MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ponyduck wrote: »

    1) STOP SELLING REP IN BOUTIQUE!

    2) Limit Frost in some way.

    3) revamp TW in a major way--new backdrop, new rules, etc.

    4) Start chipping away at all the minor bugs/glitches in game. Just fix
    them.

    1 - and add a "0" to the end of every regular quest for money/xp/sp and rep

    2- 75+

    3-something is already coming. I would like to see TW have no limit whatsoever on times and make it only 3hrs notice before a tw starts on any day at any time. Then we'd know who really deserves to hold land. As I've said before - GREATLY increase weekly rewards for who can then hold more than one piece of land.

    4 - doesnt bother me.

    5 - change secret letter drops from 0.03% to 2%

    6 - refining sucks a.ss. Make it that up to +4 you pay without gambling and everything from +5 and up stays the same as it is now. With everything +4 make the cost a multiplier which includes basic refine cost multiplied by level of the gears/weapons. But make the cost realistic.

    7 - change the cost of things in the faction base

    8 - regulate token cost - have an NPC that buys tokens at 10k and sells at 11k
  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited July 2012

    Not sure if I will able to do same without rank equipment.

    Thoughts like this just baffles me. People, rank gear is not the be all end all of equipment. You're not some helpless little baby without it.
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  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thoughts like this just baffles me. People, rank gear is not the be all end all of equipment. You're not some helpless little baby without it.

    It is just best. Rare (pack) items cost more than rank equipment sometimes.
  • Lesthar - Heavens Tear
    Lesthar - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,045 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thoughts like this just baffles me. People, rank gear is not the be all end all of equipment. You're not some helpless little baby without it.

    These guys try to reduce/suppress their sheer FEAR of ending as nobodies by collecting high end equipment (probably so they can incessantly flaunt it in the most obnoxious way), much to the neverending delight of PWE who sees more cash flow in their direction. b:surrender
    Ah well, such people finance the game, after all, at least. I do not envy them at all. *shrugs*
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    - When will we get new content? QQ
    - Will we get sales? I got a ton of gold to spend.
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  • Enkrypted_ - Raging Tide
    Enkrypted_ - Raging Tide Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    1 - and add a "0" to the end of every regular quest for money/xp/sp and rep

    2- 75+

    3-something is already coming. I would like to see TW have no limit whatsoever on times and make it only 3hrs notice before a tw starts on any day at any time. Then we'd know who really deserves to hold land. As I've said before - GREATLY increase weekly rewards for who can then hold more than one piece of land.

    4 - doesnt bother me.

    5 - change secret letter drops from 0.03% to 2%

    6 - refining sucks a.ss. Make it that up to +4 you pay without gambling and everything from +5 and up stays the same as it is now. With everything +4 make the cost a multiplier which includes basic refine cost multiplied by level of the gears/weapons. But make the cost realistic.

    7 - change the cost of things in the faction base

    8 - regulate token cost - have an NPC that buys tokens at 10k and sells at 11k
    pretty much this.
  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    ...

    And even if you want to talk about farming reputation, you could do Justice Quests and Wanteds. Much more consistent that doing an FB and hoping you get Darkness Stamps.
    Not found anything useful for myself in it: **** amount of reputation and exp/spirit.

    Three such quests give less reputation than one Darkness Stamp or 1/3 FB and have sometimes near hour duration (pay to get quest, then go to location of quest, then kill half of hundred mobs, then go back to get reward).

    75,000 quests to get 200,000 reputation is not for me again.

    Better to buy reputation from CS (even using payment necessary for this quest).
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thoughts like this just baffles me. People, rank gear is not the be all end all of equipment. You're not some helpless little baby without it.

    If you were around for the period when they removed Medals of Glory from the DQ exchange before putting them back in the Boutique, you might remember that there were tons of people complaining about how their characters, a lot of whom were partial R9, were now "gimped".

    Yeah because having only some of the best gear in the game rather than all of it totally means you're a oneshot to everyone on the server.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I want the cc powerdash bug back b:dirty
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  • hazmatz
    hazmatz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It's not realistic to go back to the pre rep sale days, but these threads are always good for a laugh.

    (Edit: Speaking of bugs, my avatar is not showing properly. However, first post ever ftw?)
  • Slegtst - Dreamweaver
    Slegtst - Dreamweaver Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Make base apo stackable. b:surrender