vortex vs aps dmg wise

CooIGuy - Archosaur
CooIGuy - Archosaur Posts: 103 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Seeker
i know this sounds noobish and silly but i was wondering at endgame ( still got awhile til i get there) who deals more dmg for example to a boss. a seeker doing vortex( ofc vortex sage/demon) or a 4-5 aps sin?b:surrender ty in advance
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  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The sin will :C
    However, you can amp their damage by 20% with northern sky waltz debuff, which they sure do appreciate. However, a lot of sins have crappy armor, low hp and low defense, and it's always fun to see them die while you live b:quiet (doesn't mean all sins die/have crappy armor, or you always live. But I've had it happen quite a lot of times...)

    Once it comes down to aoe-ing a lot of mobs, the sin sure as hell won't have agro, but his BP will keep you alive, and sins can pick out the mobs that are out of your range easily.

    Basically, on bosses you won't have agro. On lots of mobs at the same time, you will have agro :)

    and it doesn't sound noobish or silly. :) would be noobish if you didn't want to learn, and silly if you wouldn't ask b:quiet b:cute
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  • CooIGuy - Archosaur
    CooIGuy - Archosaur Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Thanks for the answer so when I'm getting close to endgame if I'm with some sins (good ones ) in squad I shouldn't worry too much about agro lol. And yeah since this is my first seeker I wanna learn as much as possible. At the moment I stopped lvling too fast so I can learn lots of skills (I like to have high lvled skills).
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The game is far more complex than most realize. Ask yourself why seekers are welcome in caster Nirvana squads, why Assassins are being ignored for Aba/SoT bh, etc.

    If you want aps; go sin or BM but realize that the last update totally killed their usefulness, and solo-ability in BH100.
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  • _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary
    _eVeReL_ - Sanctuary Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I second Hazumi, nobody's a noob so long as they r willing to learn.

    At endgame, no matter how well-refined the seeker's gear. When triple-sparked, the sin (with gud gear) will b hitting 5 times per second, whilst a seeker wud hit 3 times every 3 seconds or roughly once per second. Even with GoF on the wep, the sin hits 5 times more than u and more than likely ar least 3 times harder (its y sins r OP b:chuckle). So yeah, if ur lvling up with sins, ull hav fun but just remember they aggro, and u amp their dmg as much as posible.
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  • CooIGuy - Archosaur
    CooIGuy - Archosaur Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    i'm sorry for the late response , but you guys said that seekers are welcome in nirvana casters now , why is that? isnt caster nirvana mobs usually imune to phys dmg? or because we debuff??
  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    the 3 shatterdebuffs are VERY nice for the casters.
    Also if there is a wizzie in squad, they can buff you with frostblade, which makes it that you can also apply the debuffs from NSW and soulsever. :)
    By that you also have your metal-debuff from Ion Spike.

    You can actually deal damage to the bosses without the frostblade buff, since some of our skills are both magical and physica, Ion Spike, Heartseeker, Battousai and edged blur all deal damage to bosses :)
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  • shopitup
    shopitup Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    CooIGuy - Archosaur wrote: »
    i'm sorry for the late response , but you guys said that seekers are welcome in nirvana casters now , why is that? isnt caster nirvana mobs usually imune to phys dmg? or because we debuff??

    I'd guess it's partly because seekers debuff, and partly because seekers can do a good deal of magical (metal element) damage if you focus on the right skills.
  • CooIGuy - Archosaur
    CooIGuy - Archosaur Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    i see thanks again for your help guys
  • abcyang
    abcyang Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I've been focusing on my seeker for a while now and its 96. The other day I was in BH79 wth a 8x mystic and a 101 sin. Now this sin is good, dont get me wrong, but he made a couple of errors namely at Styg and Linus and ended up dying. When he died on both bosses me and the mystic kinda panicked but I threw up vortex and used hp herbs and the mystic healed me. Suffice to say we killed both without too much trouble. It took a lot longer then when this sin killed brig, the dd was just mind blowing, but dd isnt always everything.

    Ive also taken aggro off my 101 herc a couple times in other things. Not sure how relevent this is to your question but just letting you know.

    EDIT: that was confusing - I havent done much multiclienting with the herc, but I take aggro every time...
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    CooIGuy - Archosaur wrote: »
    i'm sorry for the late response , but you guys said that seekers are welcome in nirvana casters now , why is that? isnt caster nirvana mobs usually imune to phys dmg? or because we debuff??

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  • laloner
    laloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    abcyang wrote: »
    I've been focusing on my seeker for a while now and its 96. The other day I was in BH79 wth a 8x mystic and a 101 sin. Now this sin is good, dont get me wrong, but he made a couple of errors namely at Styg and Linus and ended up dying. When he died on both bosses me and the mystic kinda panicked but I threw up vortex and used hp herbs and the mystic healed me. Suffice to say we killed both without too much trouble. It took a lot longer then when this sin killed brig, the dd was just mind blowing, but dd isnt always everything.

    Ive also taken aggro off my 101 herc a couple times in other things. Not sure how relevent this is to your question but just letting you know.

    EDIT: that was confusing - I havent done much multiclienting with the herc, but I take aggro every time...

    Bh79 bosses are easy no lvl 101 should die tanking those. I've seen 90s archers tank those bosses.
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