cleric finds squad for Nirvana?

For caster nirvana yes, on normal one it's more hard unless you have a great helpful faction or many friends.

BM if you have decent gear and aps or demon HF.
Cleric if you are undergeared.

People that spam Nirvana quickly will typically have 3.33+ aps, +8 or better weapons, and sage/demon amps. They invested alot in their characters and their characters are yielding more coin with quicker runs. These squads typically don't take lower aps chars or people with low refines because those people won't contribute as much as the rest of the squad but would get the same share of the split. They also heal entirely on bloodpaint and cause the boss to die in 15-30 seconds so prefer another dd to make things quicker, rather than a cleric who has little to contribute by healing people with already full hp.

Lower aps Nirvana squads and TT squads will gladly accept a cleric who is willing to tolerate a slower run. There is more chance for a cleric to die in these squads, but its also where you'll make your money.

yangpo wrote: »

caster nirvana is good to farm?

Caster is good if you have limited amount of time to play. (Good drop rate, but the times you're allowed to run based on the number of Talisman you have)

Regular is good if you have all day long to run. (Worse drop rate than caster nirvy, but you have unlimited time to run if you stack keys for the whole year before x2)

tweakz wrote: »

If clerics didn't make bosses move by standing so far away, I think they could be useful/ wanted in normal Nirvana. -(speculation)

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*purify-able

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*note 60sec cd.

Not only do I hate when they stand so far away, but when they chromaspam when Dimensional Seal would heal better.

I don't really mind a cleric along because they make runs so relaxed. If the second boss buffs itself, I don't have to worry about lack of paint heals. If I do something stoopid, Oh well, the clerics got me.

But for the Mark of Weakness buff, that's a about an 10.5% increase in damage (considering an average crit rate of 30% with BMs around 23% and sins around 38%, that means the 15% affects about 70% of attacks. 70% x 15%=+10.5%). While this is nice, and would help with zerk weapons nicely, it is not as huge as a difference as even a seeker debuff.

The same can be said about bringing a veno, who has a 40% pdef and two chances at 100% pdef debuffs plus a 30% amp. Or a demon veno who has 3 chances at 100% debuffs and 25% amp. Or a barb who has a damage buff, a crit buff, and a 50% debuff (as well as reducing attack levels for safety). Or a Seeker who's defense level reduction is equals a 20 amp, and can assist in putting a HF on bosses that can't be directly amped for 100% more dmg, plus their 3% attack level buff. And a BM can always pair their 50% debuff with an HF. Barbs and BMs both also offer 5 aps.

Like I said, I don't mind running with cleric's because it allows the run to be more laidback but I tend to avoid them if we have a better debuffing option, which is half the classes in the game. In these situations you tend to have the cleric either spamming heals on people with full hp, or overwriting more effective debuffs with a 40% debuff.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

Yes caster is good to farm, but it's limited at minimum one run each day max 3 if you do your 2 bh, unless you have many char lvl100+ that you can open with.

Bm you can do as many normal nirvy run you want til you don't have anymore keys.

Both cleric bm get spot in Bh, about TT i don't really know it's not the most popular thing.

I believe each Morai order has an option of trading influence for a caster token. Not sure how much, but I think it's pretty cheap.

And yes, cleric's are always wanted in Casters until they have about 3+ clerics, lol.