is this game fun or cash oriented ?

ultim8dark
ultim8dark Posts: 2 Arc User
edited June 2012 in General Discussion
hi

just watched the preview of pwi descent , seem a nice game. But I also saw that there was a Cash Shop too , so my question can this game be fun even w/o paying cash or is it 100% cash oriented ?

so yeah befor starting something and see i need to spend 100$ per month on item to be good i'll ask

so worth to play ?


My past game "Ilike" experience
Rift , WoW , SWtor , D3 , DII on pc
TwoWorld , fallout3 on console
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ultim8dark wrote: »
    hi

    just watched the preview of pwi descent , seem a nice game. But I also saw that there was a Cash Shop too , so my question can this game be fun even w/o paying cash or is it 100% cash oriented ?

    so yeah befor starting something and see i need to spend 100$ per month on item to be good i'll ask

    so worth to play ?


    My past game "Ilike" experience
    Rift , WoW , SWtor , D3 , DII on pc
    TwoWorld , fallout3 on console

    Very highly cash oriented.
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  • ultim8dark
    ultim8dark Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    so not worth starting if im not interested to put my whole pay into this game ?
  • BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear
    BurnWhenIWiz - Heavens Tear Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Depends, it is very cash oriented, but the items in the cash shop are able to be resold to players for in game coin, so if you figure out how to generate coin, you don't have to put a dime of rl money into it.
  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It is hard to make coin if you do not Cash shop. This is a fact.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It is hard to make coin if you do not Cash shop. This is a fact.

    Depends on whether you'd call merchanting hard.

    Everything in the game can be gotten without spending a cent. Just that spending those cents allows you to do stuff faster.
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    You can buy the gold that they sell at the boutique with in game coin. If you don't have a problem working hard toward making money, you can get anything you want in the game. You don't need to spend a lot of money to do any of the PvE things. PvP on the other hand, you need to be well geared for, but as I said earlier you can obtain that gear with in-game coin.

    http://pwinsider.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/warrenwolfys-guide-to-merchanting-part-0/

    Read that link and if that sounds like something you wouldn't mind doing, and you end up being good at it, there won't be anything you can't buy really. Takes time to build up capital though, so you'll have to keep that in mind.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Cash shopping makes the game easier, but it's not like "if you don't cash shop, you won't ever be able to get this kind of content". In other words, you don't need to put money in to access the same content people who pay do. You can just farm up the coin and get it eventually, albeit will take a long time.
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  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    For cash, either you spend a lot of real like cash, or spend loads of time. One way is very fast, the other is slow and steady.
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  • khelga39
    khelga39 Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Hello

    It is what you make. b:laugh

    You can get all items without spending any cent into the game. But you can use cash to get within a short time all. It is what you like to do.
  • Geckofreak - Sanctuary
    Geckofreak - Sanctuary Posts: 2,280 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    it isnt necessary at all to cash shop, ive spent $10, in the form of a prepaid card, on this game in over 3 years of playtime. with hard work and friends you can achieve goals, even without cash shopping. but cash shoppers do have amuch easier time then the poor people
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The game is based heavy on the cashshop if you want convenience of not farming.
    The thing is here though...the in game coin and cashshop gold are directly exchangeable. You can farm up coin and buy gold for cashshop. Or you charge rl money, buy 100 packs and merchant them to make even more cashshop gold.
    Cashshop does not always = using real money. I buy hundreds of packs a day from the cashshop for merchanting, not spending any real life money on them.
  • Yeaves - Archosaur
    Yeaves - Archosaur Posts: 130 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Very highly cash oriented.

    This game is free in the sense that if a player doesn't choose to pvp or power level, level 100 with a fairly good set of gear is obtainable without spending real money (Just a lot of farming/merching time).

    Many of the players, however, are highly cash oriented.
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  • laloner
    laloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ultim8dark wrote: »
    hi

    just watched the preview of pwi descent , seem a nice game. But I also saw that there was a Cash Shop too , so my question can this game be fun even w/o paying cash or is it 100% cash oriented ?

    so yeah befor starting something and see i need to spend 100$ per month on item to be good i'll ask

    so worth to play ?


    My past game "Ilike" experience
    Rift , WoW , SWtor , D3 , DII on pc
    TwoWorld , fallout3 on console

    You can PVE well without cash shopping. Though spending $10 will let you get fashion and mounts before say level 90. Thats a rough estimate. But if you want to PVP well you will need to spend some money. Can't get around that no matter what anyone says.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    -Making money on your own by killing stuff will only cover your potions spent in leveling, at best (not to mention that it's boring as all hell). There is just no way you can do this effectively until you've racked up enough cash to buy the equipment needed to solo the more profitable dungeons (and even then your class may not allow you to do that).

    -Doing dungeons with other people (TT, nirvana) can make you a nice profit, but finding a squad for that with sub-par equipment is nigh impossible unless you have friends that want to take you with them (on a regular basis).

    -You can make good money by merchanting, but it requires a fair amount of money to start doing effectively (as well as some expertise). It's also something you just need to set up and wait for it to be done, not very exciting (since your other ****-poor character doesn't have much to do in the meantime either).

    Making money in this game isn't as straightforward as in other games where you just mine rocks or cut trees (hint hint) for a decent income. A lot of people will tell you that it certainly is possible to make money in this game, but these are usually the people that already have it made. Starting out as a free player is absolute hell, and all I can say is that I don't think it's worth it anymore.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    If you wanna be lvl 100 in 2 months and PK at top lvls, than yes, you'll need to spend money like everyone said.

    If you play the game to play the game, enjoy the PvE and everthing, you'll never need to spend a single dime
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  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Put it this way.. you will be frustrated if you worry about cash shopping. Know what your needs are, before "buying".
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  • Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary
    Angel_Spawn - Sanctuary Posts: 3,034 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    As a new player it will be fun at 1st, but the higher you climb the harder it gets, you can survive just fine without cash shopping if you are willing to work for your gear and items, either to farm mats,herbs w/e or learn to be a successful merchant, it all depends what are you willing to achieve here.
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    You can do just fine without cash shopping.

    However, without cash shopping being a "factor" in high-end PvP is going to be pretty hard, even with successful merchanting. Then again most of the high-end folks have R9, which costs upwards of 1,000$.
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Stay out of PVP = protect your wallet
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  • Delsedora - Archosaur
    Delsedora - Archosaur Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    it isnt necessary at all to cash shop, ive spent $10, in the form of a prepaid card, on this game in over 3 years of playtime. with hard work and friends you can achieve goals, even without cash shopping. but cash shoppers do have amuch easier time then the poor people


    same here, i have been playing this game since 2008 (dont look at the forum acc date, this is my 2nd account, but the 1st it's from 2008) and never paid anything for items or something like that... and I have to say that most of the fun come from the friends that you'll do in-game and stuff..... b:pleased!!!
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  • Delsedora - Archosaur
    Delsedora - Archosaur Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ^this

    Best advice I can give is if you're going to not spend money on the game than it would be best to only play with other people who do not spend money on the game. Unless it doesn't bother you that someone was able to get nice gear in a matter of minutes while for you it is going to take weeks if not months to get the same thing.

    that... but have fun meanwhile =)!
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  • Sagek - Sanctuary
    Sagek - Sanctuary Posts: 1,156 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    A lot of people will tell you that it certainly is possible to make money in this game, but these are usually the people that already have it made. Starting out as a free player is absolute hell, and all I can say is that I don't think it's worth it anymore.

    ^this

    Best advice I can give is if you're going to not spend money on the game than it would be best to only play with other people who do not spend money on the game.
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    HaHa... with the responses so far (admittedly the majority being honest and good intentioned), I'll be surprised if the OP decides to stick around and give it a go. b:laugh

    Lets face it... there is a reason cash shops that out right sell power items have such a horrible rep in the world of MMOs. It absolutely kills the motivation of most of those who decide to stick with the "free to play" route and farm/merch their gear the hard way. Sure, you have the 10% who are good at merchanting or have the patience of Job to grind for endless hours, asian style. But for the vast majority, reality eventually hits them how long and hard the road is to even semi-decent end game gear and they eventually either join the credit card crowd or outright quit.

    Doesn't help either that the symbolic "road" passes through some of the most barren and lonely parts of the map (mid-level questing/grinding areas) before you reach 95+. No wonder 99% of the population heads off to snowy village first chance they get.
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    If your not established for a number of years like some here are,then you will prob spend cash..alot of newbloods do that...poor things.


    Now days i just buy my gold from the Auction House with coin.Usually around the holidays i get alot of pw cards thats the only times i use those to get any gold for game.
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  • gouraudpalm2
    gouraudpalm2 Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    cash oriented
  • Elanxu - Dreamweaver
    Elanxu - Dreamweaver Posts: 521 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    more so is it johnny cash oriented than fun oriented. staff encourages players to spend $
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  • /ork - Harshlands58
    /ork - Harshlands58 Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ONLY cash oriented


    you will NOT SUCCEED w/o spending cash !
  • Zenzell - Dreamweaver
    Zenzell - Dreamweaver Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited June 2012
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  • KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear
    KawaiiJen - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ONLY cash oriented


    you will NOT SUCCEED w/o spending cash !

    I succeeded without spending cash.....
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    Euthymius - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,162 Arc User
    edited June 2012
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