LA not viable anymore?

it was never viable

you lived a lie

b:victory

http://pwi.perfectworld.com/gameinfo/class/wizard

As masters of the conjuring arts, Wizards are vulnerable while casting, but once the casting is complete, they deal great damage to enemies. There are two primary stat builds that players use with Wizards: Full intelligence which maximizes magical damage and high magical defense, or a light armor build which sacrifices magical damage and defense in exchange for better physical defense.

pwi website is misleading ):

Yep, ****** here. Kill faster = don't need as much def. If you need more def: there's pdef ornaments. Kill faster still better 99% of the time.

at lvl90 they finally realized that their build was ****.

I had a LA wizzy in the early days of the game, and it was certainly a viable build at that time given the game content that was available and the general level of the average player. There were numerous hardcore LA wizzy's that could pk as good as any if not better, and it was a highly popular build for particular instances. No one that was around to witness an LA wizzy that was built and played well would ever say that is was "never good" (to quote the resident troll).

However, like I said, that was in the early days when players had no idea how the game would evolve or what the end-game content would look like. With all the numerous game changes and with end-game content coming into play, an LA build for wizards gradually lost its viability.

If there is any doubt, some of the older players will remember how the discourse on the forum about this very issue slowly evolved over the years from being a heated debate with supporters on both sides (because both LA and AA were awesome builds with their own pros and cons) to one-sided support for AA as players slowing hit higher and higher levels, and thus opened up new game content (along with the many game changes) that slowly made LA an obsolete build.

thumbs wrote: »

LA was never good; it just wasn't as noticeable then. Even the most notoriously stupid LA wiz on our server restated.

Either you are:
1. .....too new to the game to know what a good LA wiz could do in the early days of PWI
2. .....suffering from a convenient form of selective memory loss
3. .....trolling as always

In any case, making a universal statement like that is another good example of your unsound logic abilities, particularly as you follow it up with the statement, "it just wasn't as noticeable then." LOL It wasn't noticeable for the very reason that it was a highly competitive build. Certainly it had its disadvantages, just like any build does, but in the early days of PWI it was most definitely a viable a build.

Edit: On a final note, I would also recommend that some people take the time to look up the definition of "viable" before posting.... (hint* viable =/= best)

LA Wizzy was theoretically viable, but certainly not an optimal build at any point in time. Players were just bad and lacking knowledge when the game was new. People thought wizards were squishy, they needed more defense/hp from refines to survive. Basic kiting and proper sharding/refines help alot. +1/2 gear and a mix of garnets and cits w/ p def ornas and Stone Barrier will take care of you until you get around 90, then I would go for +3/4 refines. Wizards are a DD. Nerfing your own damage output is not suggested.


To test this out, create an AA wizzy now and play it with some knowledge. You should barely be getting hit. You should be hitting like a truck. Distance shrink is your friend.

Some seem to think I said they weren't viable when what I said was it was never good. Some refer back to those earlier days when leveling towards 100 was an issue, while now just being 100+ is good and common. Mobs that I was killing in 3 hits; they were killing in 4. That not only gave them 1/3 more time in which a mob could have spawned and been hitting them, but also 1/3 more MP cost. Being LA they would have a lower MP pool as well and thus receive far less on eruption especially with Wellspring Quaff factored in. Costs were higher, progression was slower = not good.

Flickerfae - Sanctuary wrote: »

She had good survivability at low levels, and I could walk up and Dragons Breath a group of mobs with far less fear of aggro.

That's like a sin that doesn't attack at all because they're afraid of aggro. -There are many other ways to avoid aggro rather than long term gimping your toon or standing around.

Pretty sure the point of LA build was PvP and not tanking mobs.

LA nowadays is not viable anymore because you can get a ****load of low level molds for cheap, so your hp/pdef is not lacking anymore.

back in the days ( even pre genies ) i started out as an LA wizard because it was just easier to level/PvP with then full arcane. the HP difference is kinda big in instances and when 1v1 PvPing.

At 80 a friend of mine bought me a TT80 gold set and i decided to restat to AA at that point, and i didn't regret it at all. nowadays there is no reason anymore to go LA, you gimp yourself too much.

Also my girlfriend started out as an LA cleric for about the same reasons, being able to withstand more in PvE ( doesn't actually PvP ) and there are countless times where her high Pdef and hp pool saved her life when there were some leroy jenkin bm's in squad or barb didn't properly take aggro on mobs