Any tips for a newbie? :)

just run away as fast as you can it not worth it b:avoid

plz plz plz do NOT buy exp room
u won't learn ure class, u end up with less spirit than by doing quests and bounty hunters at 40+ and since you're new you won't even know what things like tt, fcc, bh and such r.... which u HAVE to know to be taken serious by others....

Best way to play is just playing without asking others how to level up fastest way, just play the game and explore by yourself. You should use only guides abouts quests and how to build your character. It's the way how the game is most fun in my opinion and don't hestitate to ask for help to kill bosses

rainydaysss wrote: »

Why not the game looks fun

It kinda is/was. The developers have started using psychological tactics to get new people to spend lots of money. This is started by offering you an easy route to end game. Once you reach end-game, where almost everyone else is, you'll have **** gear. If you want to be included in anything or if you want to PK or TW, you'll need some really expensive gear and some really expensive refines.

Sure, you can get most of it by spending lots of time in-game, but even the most profitable farming has been made insignificant by the massive inflation caused by the developers on purpose, so even if you work hard, you're still making less than minimum wage. Since the gears are so expensive and the refines are really expensive too, and you're making pennies on the dollar compared to what you can earn in real life, the temptation to charge is placed upon you. Once you start down that path, it could be $1000, $5000, or $10000+ dollars later depending on how compulsive or obsessive you are.

I honestly don't believe a new player starting the game can reach end-game and have respectable gears without spending money now. Well, you still could, but by the time you get the gear and refine it, the game will probably be close to dead.

So if you can't merchant (have a dedicated cash shop up 24/7), you don't want to play 6-10 hours a day, or you don't want to spend a few thousand dollars, then this game is definitely not for you.

Oh, and beware. There are a lot of scammers and liars. Also people who will tell you they never spent a cent because they're embarrased to admit they spent a lot of money here.

TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »

It kinda is/was. The developers have started using psychological tactics to get new people to spend lots of money. This is started by offering you an easy route to end game. Once you reach end-game, where almost everyone else is, you'll have **** gear. If you want to be included in anything or if you want to PK or TW, you'll need some really expensive gear and some really expensive refines.

Sure, you can get most of it by spending lots of time in-game, but even the most profitable farming has been made insignificant by the massive inflation caused by the developers on purpose, so even if you work hard, you're still making less than minimum wage. Since the gears are so expensive and the refines are really expensive too, and you're making pennies on the dollar compared to what you can earn in real life, the temptation to charge is placed upon you. Once you start down that path, it could be $1000, $5000, or $10000+ dollars later depending on how compulsive or obsessive you are.

I honestly don't believe a new player starting the game can reach end-game and have respectable gears without spending money now. Well, you still could, but by the time you get the gear and refine it, the game will probably be close to dead.

So if you can't merchant (have a dedicated cash shop up 24/7), you don't want to play 6-10 hours a day, or you don't want to spend a few thousand dollars, then this game is definitely not for you.

Oh, and beware. There are a lot of scammers and liars. Also people who will tell you they never spent a cent because they're embarrased to admit they spent a lot of money here.

Most of the pressure to charge money actually comes from other players, not the game or company. I agree that pvp is not enjoyable unless you've got equal gear to match but for the majority of the game (even tw), r8 is good enough.

Don't take the easy route to endgame. The endgame content for this game sucks *that's why the developers were in a hurry to stick more endgame content in the last update*
Other players will pressure you to level and to level fast. They will also exclude players with less than 'r9 gear with good refines' because somehow the gear makes the player *see other threads about this*

Making money is difficult in this game, but certainly not hard. Hay, fruit and mats sell for a good price and a low level player could easily buy gear with that. Learning to use the auction house and setting up a catshop (not cashshop) helps.

There are a lot of liars in this game and some of them will tell you that its impossible to get to endgame without charging thousands of dollars. I've used real world money to buy a fancy mount *i like fast rides b:cool* but I'm level 97 (my avatar is glitched) and I have never used real world money to buy gear. Some of the players are just too lazy to farm and not lazy enough to complain.

Good luck starting in pwi and stay away from people that claim you're not pro unless you spend money.

TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »

It kinda is/was. The developers have started using psychological tactics to get new people to spend lots of money. This is started by offering you an easy route to end game. Once you reach end-game, where almost everyone else is, you'll have **** gear. If you want to be included in anything or if you want to PK or TW, you'll need some really expensive gear and some really expensive refines.

Sure, you can get most of it by spending lots of time in-game, but even the most profitable farming has been made insignificant by the massive inflation caused by the developers on purpose, so even if you work hard, you're still making less than minimum wage. Since the gears are so expensive and the refines are really expensive too, and you're making pennies on the dollar compared to what you can earn in real life, the temptation to charge is placed upon you. Once you start down that path, it could be $1000, $5000, or $10000+ dollars later depending on how compulsive or obsessive you are.

I honestly don't believe a new player starting the game can reach end-game and have respectable gears without spending money now. Well, you still could, but by the time you get the gear and refine it, the game will probably be close to dead.

So if you can't merchant (have a dedicated cash shop up 24/7), you don't want to play 6-10 hours a day, or you don't want to spend a few thousand dollars, then this game is definitely not for you.

Oh, and beware. There are a lot of scammers and liars. Also people who will tell you they never spent a cent because they're embarrased to admit they spent a lot of money here.

u makes me understand the pain i feel deep inside of me
i spent 10 euros once and it was a waste cause i started a new char and i bought rep badges but the rest is so trueb:cry b:cry but i manage, i NEVER sold that gold and now I'm doing fine with some BIG luck from bh rewards 100+ but ure post rally expressed how i feel about this game, but i can manage myself:cryb:cry so lets not discourage new players but welcome them and hope they won't be sucked into this vile and ruthless pwi we grew up inb:cry

Barb was my 1st choice and must say it's cool ^^
Beside on world chat I always see: LF Barb for delta/ aba or fcc so I think I won't be bored at higher lvl

My tip is.. collect all mats dropping from mobs and sell them later. ^^ And of course find helpfull faction! So you can go into all caves without problematic spamming world chat for help

For the record, most anybody can afford to merchant. About the only thing you need is a second account you can run a catshop on and the ability to keep a computer running 24/7 so that catshop can stay open --- and I'm not 100% certain about even that.

All you need to start merching is a few thousand coin and the interest to do it. I started with two mil coin, and that was more than I needed. I'm up to 200 gold now, building purely on that initial investment --- and I'm by no means a big-time or very skilled merchant, I do catshopping mostly for fun and challenge.

The best introduction to merchanting I've seen remains Warren's six-part series.

Don't give us any preferences or anything like that, cause that wouldn't be helpful at all. Nope.


Lets write this out.
If you don't like physical characters, which if not made by putting gold into the game it takes a lot of time to gear them up but when geared up they make quite a sum of money.

If you like caster characters, you should know how to put your points, and if you want to hit hard and do a 9 1 build then you better start farming money and saving up Citrine shards for your gear and saving refines. If your level 100 and under 5k hp your not doing your job and you become a liability in money making instances.

If you want a mixture of the two the only two classes that are classically Light armor are Assassin and Archer. Archer is only for dedicated classes because I and a large amount of the population have a bias towards them unless they are fully geared and aps. (A ungeared archer is 1/4 the DD of a ungeared assassin.)

More detail by class:
ELVES:
Cleric: This healer class is weak in DD unless you rank or nirvana it but what sets it aside from the Mystic class is BB. They can match the heals of a BB but not the 50% damage reduction. You have to have fairly high HP on a cleric, around 5k if you plan on surviving your lower levels in FF.

Archer: See up for that information. --They don't usually get into money making instances due to bias, but they are alright for PK.

UNTAMED
Veno: It has pets but you have to level them yourself and get pet bag slots which is expensive. It's a medium DD in the caster classes but it is the Arcane equivalent to Blademaster because of AMP, which increases damage a target takes. They get into caster squads fairly easy. (A caster squad money maker) Although people prefer nix or herc venos (expensvie pets) they are generally good in PVP.

Barbarian: Do not APS this no matter what anyone tells you. They are made to be the tanks and cost a lot on gear repairs and you have to be prepared to drop a PRETTY PENNY on their gear to get high HP. You usually put required points in, to meet gear standards and then the rest in VIT. It isn't desired much, except for FULL RBs and some BH 100s. I still enjoy the class myself but it is an acquired taste.

HUMAN:
Wizards: Straight forward HARD magic DDs. Need high hp again. And a good weapon and it will make you money. Learn how to use elements in your favor and you should be straight. Reccomended that you get channeling gear but not required.

Blademaster: Lacks in DD, requires APS gear to get into high lvl groups. But has HF a increase damage taken skill that is highly desired. High HP required again.

TIDEBORN:
Psychic: This is the faster version of a Wizard. It uses soulspheres and arcane gear and it's reccomended to get a good weapon, maybe rank or nirvana and it will make you money too. High hp is needed to survive, but you come equipped with several survival skillson a psychic.

Assassin: Needs high HP 5k+ to live, reccomended more. It is an APS dd and the hardest hitting physical DD in the game. They are highly desired when they are 4.0+ Aps with good refines and HP. You can make the money back you put into it quickly but you still have to put money into it to get up there.

EARTHGUARD
Seeker: They have vortex, and hit rather hard but are not fast phsyical DDs. They are desired in full RBs, and as pullers. They are decent in PVP depending on gear and they require 8k+ HP at 100 to be considered a good seeker. The weapon is swords only for them which can be a strain. But an alright class to play.

Mystic: My personal favorite. A hard DD in magic and a great Healer as well. They come with pets that level with you, 4 pets. A magic pet that hits insanely hard, a physical pet that stuns and hits alright. It saves you quite a bit. And a healer pet that shields people, it's nice to have when youre the healler. Then the Cragglord which requires 2 sparks and hits reallly reaaaaaalllly hard if used right. (In Full RBs it hits constant aoes if you click them in time that hit 20k base on mobs which is extremely hard in that instance). They are great if used right and again require 5k+ HP.


Hope that helped.


A tip: Don't let people wind you up in the game.

Ssowa - Momaganon wrote: »

Barb was my 1st choice and must say it's cool ^^
Beside on world chat I always see: LF Barb for delta/ aba or fcc so I think I won't be bored at higher lvl

My tip is.. collect all mats dropping from mobs and sell them later. ^^ And of course find helpfull faction! So you can go into all caves without problematic spamming world chat for help

You definitely need some alt support for playing cleric and Barb classes.
Clerics lose exp everytime they die becouse there is usually no one around to ressurrect them. And they need a consideable stash of mp pots. There are some instances where clerics lose more exp and money then they gain.

Barbs usually don't lose exp becouse of death becouse they get resurrected. but they pay huuuuge repair bills. Your repair bills will start to go up once you start to wear high level expensive armors. You can easily find a bh or fc squad but who'll pay for your 300+k repair bills per run? A barb doesn't earn that much.

By the way, if a squad fails, barb and cleric classes are the first ones who hear the curses of other squadmates, so its a matter of patience too

In my oppinion, your first char must be a money maker one instead of a spender. Assasin is a good class to make money. you can easily find squads for nirvana runs which is the most effective way of making money.