TW changes may be coming

swgs wrote: »

Based on Chinese server.

1. Ten Million big note will be used to bid instead coins. Minimum 1, Maximum 99.
2. A faction can have up to 7 defending wars at same time.
3. Crystal HP increased. Tower price increased. Tower attack increased. "Some battle field" (don't know detail) can have more towers and some new equipment.

I doubt you can find 7 factions with more than 30 DIFFERENT people on any given TW night on LC.

evolution1234 wrote: »

I doubt you can find 7 factions with more than 30 DIFFERENT people on any given TW night on LC.

HT might have eight guilds that seriously want to TW, but arranging the territory borders such that a seven-way gank would be possible (even taking landless guilds into account) would be... Let's call it remarkably improbable, and leave it at that. You'd end up with startup newbie guilds that can just scrape up the bidding fee going up against the top one, and why would anybody sensible bid like that?

A minimum bid of ten mil... I dunno what to think about that, because I honestly have no idea what an average bid is. I'm sure some of them are much more than that, but I get a sneaking suspicion that at least some of them are much smaller, too. I think it'd discourage bids by guilds who just want to try out a fight to see what it's like, which would cement the big guilds in place as only those who think they can win the attack and win back the fee the next week will bother spending it.

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's about time they gave TW an overhaul. It's been stale for too long.

Here's a link to the announcement:
http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120620/65753.shtml

It just hit the PW-CN test server which is normally a week ahead of the rest of PW-CN. PW-CN is usually 2-4 months ahead of PWI.

There seem to be other changes like making PK protected areas more visible and a new set bonus for R8 gear.

R8 set gear bonus is good, cause N3 blows it outta the water while being easier to obtain with good stats. I'm not sure if I read it correct, but I don't think its gonna be enough of an improvement to rate with or beyond N3.

I'm not sure how any of those changes are improving or overhauling TW. Unless the towers are like 10x damage, teleport people away, do pushback, drain chi...etc. Or the towers cost in the millions to make. More towers is just more annoyance to skip with pots and skills.

I share shopitup's concern with less rich factions.

Strife_son - Sanctuary wrote: »

Need some new TW maps. Tired of A, B, and C. Spice up the battlefield pw!

+1

Only so many tactics that can be used in the current set-up and they have all been done to death. The same old map week in week out is the biggest downside of TW atm

Ooo and they are making it so you can cancel a reforge and revert back to your previous stats if you don't like the results. I can't tell if it is just r8r or if it is for NV too.

Reads as if you still lose the materials though

But the PK event looks interesting. Order vs Order ?

I think the TW battlefield should look like the actual territory in question. In other words,
if the battle is over Hidden Orchid, then the TW battlefield should BE Hidden Orchid.

Imagine the battle for Archo--running thru the streets, empty of all save the two guilds
who are fighting. It would really lend itself to some creative battle strategies.

I'd like it if players couldn't shoot THRU objects (and I'd like this not just for TW, but for
the whole game). Where you could jump behind a tree or a wall for protection.
("Cover me, guys, I'm going out!")

To make TW interesting again, they have to change more than just the externals of it,
the bidding, the payoff, etc. They need to change the way the TW looks and works.

ponyduck wrote: »

I think the TW battlefield should look like the actual territory in question. In other words,
if the battle is over Hidden Orchid, then the TW battlefield should BE Hidden Orchid.

Imagine the battle for Archo--running thru the streets, empty of all save the two guilds
who are fighting. It would really lend itself to some creative battle strategies.

(persons lag + server lag) + TW lag + archo lag = b:surrender

ponyduck wrote: »

I'd like it if players couldn't shoot THRU objects (and I'd like this not just for TW, but for
the whole game). Where you could jump behind a tree or a wall for protection.
("Cover me, guys, I'm going out!")

Well that's in first person games not MMOs, where you aim and dodge, not tab and press button...and getting arrow/spell folowing you as you change direction. I wonder how things would be that way.....b:dirty

Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's about time they gave TW an overhaul. It's been stale for too long. I don't agree with raising the minimum bid amount but that will probably kill off fake bidding.

Here's a link to the announcement:
http://w2i.wanmei.com/news/bulletin/20120620/65753.shtml

It just hit the PW-CN test server which is normally a week ahead of the rest of PW-CN. PW-CN is usually 2-4 months ahead of PWI.

There seem to be other changes like making PK protected areas more visible and a new set bonus for R8 gear.

A new PK event in Morai too?

Ooo and they are making it so you can cancel a reforge and revert back to your previous stats if you don't like the results. I can't tell if it is just r8r or if it is for NV too.

From that news page, it seems that they are also going to improve r8r bonus set. Instead of 8 attack lvls for the full set, you will get 12 attack lvls, and also some individual class r8r improvements. I don't think they will be giving a set bonus to the original rank 8 set. Clerics 3 piece bonus set will be 8 defense lvls instead of 5, and wizard's 3 piece set bonus will be 6% channeling instead of 3%.

新8军装备属性调整：

1)所有8军套装4件套效果，攻击等级+8改为攻击等级+12

2)法师3件套效果，吟唱时间-3%改为吟唱时间-6%

3)羽灵3件套效果，防御等级+5改为防御等级+8



The Morai pk event will be between people from 3 different orders, no exp and drop lost penalty if die in this event. It looks like it will be a mini TW where each order's participants has to defend their base crystal from the people of other orders. [" 击杀另外两势力的守护水晶"]


The prize is based on a point system like in public quest...if you get at least 30 points, you get something like a pet teddy bear for a prize? ["并有机会获得观赏宠泰迪熊宝宝"] It doesn't give much details about the point system, so I am not sure if the 30 points is based on the kills you make, or damage to the crystals.


My Chinese is a bit rusty so I am not exactly sure what this sentence is referring to, but I think it might be trials related. It says that you will see a big difference in the award for completing the higher rounds. It says the reward is an individual base to increase the incentive for players to complete the trials of higher rounds, so it might not just be additional drops from the bosses.

帮派副本奖励变更，根据通关轮数的不同，每个关卡将给予玩家不同的奖励。每通过一轮，下一轮的奖励会大幅增加。


Other things that is of less interest:

The 1k stream elder will be fired, if you want to test your damage, there will be a new npc to provide you this damage test service around Arch City.

Quests for lvls 1-60 will be made easier and with better rewards...this is concerning the ones where you have to kill bosses.

The daily quest where you go to the lower lvl instance (fb19, 39, 51) to slay a boss summoned by a player lvl 20-40 will be active for the entire summer. This is the one that gives you a chest with a chance to get the fat rabbit, anti stealth potions, and some other pets.

New wedding rings and wedding suits.

New fashion.

And finally you get buy those badges that gives exp, spirit, or reputation from all three orders in Morai, so it will no longer be restricted to one order.

I want a new tower in TW that either sleeps or seals b:laugh

I w0uld l0ve t0 see a facti0n defend seven lands......

Nariin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

well thats what i ment... not like they would remove all players from there durning tw

Edit: ty for inf Neodaystar

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but my idea about TW battlefields actually
looking like the territory itself . . . . TW would still be an instance-type
situation, only the battleground would look like the territory in question.

So battle over Hidden Orchid, e.g., each side would port into TW, and land in
a battlefield looking like Hidden Orchid, only no players except the 2 guilds.
Shouldn't be any more lag than any other instance I would think.

ponyduck wrote: »

Imagine the battle for Archo--running thru the streets, empty of all save the two guilds
who are fighting. It would really lend itself to some creative battle strategies.

They should make it that when I kill someone... he stays dead... instead of popping up elsewhere. Would give me a motivation to actually level up my **** gears.

I always thought it'd be more interesting if the defenders had a defecit. Lets say -20% attack and -20% defense. You could call it a surprise attack debuff or something. Then we would see more regular turnover of areas and lower level factions attacking more often. The average non-TW orientated faction can't compete with the TW-centric factions because people tend to get 1 shot, they're unorganized from lack of practice (and stay that way) and it ends up in a 5 minute roll. Give the defending faction, which is like to be the career TW faction, this debuff and you'd get smaller factions more willing to try. The career TW faction would either have to definitively defend or could take it back the next week.

That way you wouldn't have to split up 200 people (100 of which are online?) to defend 7 territories and set up a 50+ v 15 people scenario but could stay with a 50 v 50.

swgs wrote: »

Based on Chinese server.

1. Ten Million big note will be used to bid instead coins. Minimum 1, Maximum 99.

3. Crystal HP increased. Tower price increased. Tower attack increased. "Some battle field" (don't know detail) can have more towers and some new equipment.

this is going to kill TW even more.
smaller guilds will not be able to afford this only the guild who dominates and is already rich will.

These changes better not be in lieu of resetting map.

TempleSlave - Lost City wrote: »

That sounds interesting.

However raising the prices on towers and associated instance costs... big factions have no problems spending the millions of coin to buy all your towers, pay for cata scrolls and pay for pots for the cata barbs...

All the small factions who say they love the new TW changes will be screwed by increased costs. Not that I really care about that, I don't. The problem I have with this is continuity. This makes no sense when you factor in a 6 month map reset.

The 6 month reset may be more fair to smaller factions, but PWI lost a good portion of end-game veterans to this change.

It's probably a coin dump, simply there to take coin off the server and lower gold prices...

I can't see it succeeding though