What hast happened to PWI?

Aywen - Heavens Tear
Aywen - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
edited June 2012 in General Discussion
Dear (forgein) community,

i couldn't wait for the servers to go on in fall of 2008. I went up a bit ealier to be able to do the first 2 or 3 levels before i had to go to work.

The game was amazing. Nice graphics, good sounds, a friendly and helpful community. I was easy to do the first quests and easy to to the first bosses cause you could just squad up and even find friends while questing with strangers.

I was proud when Archosaur became my new home town, proud to do the first fb's with a squad of same level peoples. I couldn't wait till level 30 to be able to fly. It was a challenge to do 1 level up each day in the 40's. Later on it was funny to help the lower one with bosses fb's and what ever others needed. I remember the first TT 1-1 run to be very exciting.



That happend from release in 2008 till winter 2009/2010. I had to stop playing to progress in my job.



Nowadays in 2012 i got more time again and was looking for an mmorpg to play. I remembered the good old times with pwi so i started playing again last friday.

I was happy to see my 72 Veno, 72 Cleric and 63 Wiz. Still there with their flying gear and veno's Herc and Nix i brought for 600$ (just checked how much i spended).

Logged in and woke up in Archosaur where everything looked familiar. Did my Crazy Stone Quest, first BH and WQ like i did 2.5 years ago.

"But what is this? 3 BH quests? Wow, that makes it really easy to lvl"

After this i watched my quests and started questing with my Wizard. I always took quests and searched for other people at spot to group and do it together, cause otherwise it was much more difficult and boring to play. The Area around Tusk Town was always crowded cause there are alot of quests to do. But there were...no one. Not even 1 other person. (The forgein in the first line of this post makes a sense)

That was the first time i wondered what is wrong. Maybe wrong time of the day? No, tried it some hours later.

The same happened with my Veno and Cleric, no one around, everything is just empty. I watched the private Chatrooms. At least there must be people offering fb runs i thought. But No, nothing. While watching the chat (and ignoring the horns, seriously, i dont hate the CS but this really sucks, Trompet was enough) i noticed alot of ppl searching for others in 9x level. Today i noticed the plvl shouts and watched the forums for infos what it means.

I'm kind of shocked. Seriously Perfect World Enertainment, that can't be true. Congratiulations on ruining this very very good game. Of cause you want to earn money with CS with senseless stuff like clothes and pigments. And Of cause there are Items like Inventory extension or EXP Scrolls, which give a slight advantage. But Making it THAT easy to reach higher levels to get more Money with the CS for high end stuff really sucks. it not just sucks, it destroys this lovely game. Like i mentioned, i also paid 600$ in a bit more than a year, which isn't nothing. I think there were alot of players like me before, didn't you earned enough money?

Shocked greetings,
Aywen
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's not that bad. Just join a faction and get some friends to play old school with you.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thanks Silvy for the superb sig <3

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  • snufalufaguss
    snufalufaguss Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    This game was designed by people who just wanted to make money. Or maybe it was designed by people who wanted to create an amazing MMO, but then it was taken over by people who just wanted to make money. They have no pride in the quality of their game and only design it to exploit human faults to get as much cash out of them while expending as little resources as possible.

    This is why PW Co will never be among the most liked MMO companies by gamers. They don't have any passion for their games. They just have a passion for money.
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's not that bad. Just join a faction and get some friends to play old school with you.

    Even a lot of them prefer not to play old school with you. This game turned into a power level / cash shop fest to lure in failures to sink their money into the game to reach to 105 and CS everything. Nothing but "Selling FC rooms private/level (range) for (X amount) PM me." and "-inserts bragging about PKing someone-". It is not even worth looking at world chat anymore because it is just pure garbage.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Lol it's so greedy of them to expect money from their jobs, and not of us for taking advantage of a FREE to play game that is dominated by merchants: not CSers. b:laugh

    The game is old, it's progressed while you haven't. On HT it's more common to find free wined BH79 (and 89 is stupid to wine) than it was when BH's were introduced.
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Well its a business..what the hell do you expect?

    But yeah alot of the pathetic people wanna get r9 +12 and other **** in that fashion jsut to kil lthe same bh mob boss,or go afk all day.


    Hell if there was no FF then people would still be doing the same old hour on hour on hour zhenning ****.
    This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
    Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Even a lot of them prefer not to play old school with you. This game turned into a power level / cash shop fest to lure in failures to sink their money into the game to reach to 105 and CS everything. Nothing but "Selling FC rooms private/level (range) for (X amount) PM me." and "-inserts bragging about PKing someone-". It is not even worth looking at world chat anymore because it is just pure garbage.

    Oh please. There are all types of people in this game. If you don't have two braincells to rub together to wc for a faction that levels up the old way or to ask around for people that enjoy questing then you have no one to blame but yourself. Most of the people I know who level up the old way have a few questing partners they do everything with and they have just as much fun as the rest of us. This game and life are what you make of it.

    edit: And i'm all for slowing down leveling but sick of seeing the same QQ over and over about how it's somehow PWI's fault that you can find a good faction. Yeah its harder to get bhs done and hyper FC sucks in multiple ways. But there are things vets like you both can do and know how to do. You'd just rather QQ than do them. You aren't a new player. You know how to use a tele. Go find someone out there with a common interest. -__-
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Thanks Silvy for the superb sig <3

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  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    This game is now tainted.
    This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
    Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.
  • SoulRequiem - Sanctuary
    SoulRequiem - Sanctuary Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I still do quests,main and alts,its just that they aren't anymore worth the time.

    When there was just a BH a day(Or even no BH at all),no Hypers,no FCC(not the exp version),people had nothing to do...so they did quests.

    Now they have way better options to level,so why bother?

    @OP
    Any MMORPG I saw around change,you've been away for 2,5 years,its completely natural that things changes.Most people doesn't like the changes,but then,most of those,end up adapting and go on with their lives instead of looking "back then".
    WTB>More Fash
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  • Doqui - Raging Tide
    Doqui - Raging Tide Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    non of you actualy understood his concen, he doesn't care about bh squads being free, factions running fc for you.

    he wants to have fun doing quests and meet new people while doing it.


    fun > levels, sadly all of you are blinded by shinny new CS stuff and 10x lvl e-peens


    players dictate where the game goes, they all choose the easy way out, nothing is stopping you from not buying or not using the easy options pwi offers b:bye
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    *Lollipop Chainsaw Addict sinds 05-2012*
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    been here since 2008 hun..im business,enough time to make a friend in a bh and enough time to forget about them after,untill next time they can be my friend againb:victory
    This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
    Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    -lol

    Might wanna try out this new game called MiRC!
  • Goblin_Queen - Dreamweaver
    Goblin_Queen - Dreamweaver Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thumbs wrote: »
    -lol

    Might wanna try out this new game called MiRC!

    its mIRC newbie not MiRC and i still use it with ICQ b:pleased
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    its mIRC newbie not MiRC and i still use it with ICQ b:pleased

    oops

    Yeah.. I hear this program and usnet readers are going to destroy all the old file sharing programs, all the social networking sites, and they're even compatible with Linux -the upcoming bug/virus free OS to replace windows.
  • Zarni - Dreamweaver
    Zarni - Dreamweaver Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    A big part of it is that the game is old (relatively anyway). If you started 3 years ago, that was because it was new, and so there were thousands of people near the same levels. It's not realistic to expect a 4 year old game to have thousands of new players joining all the time to keep a steady flow through all the levels.

    The reason hyper stones (and 3bhs, and exp FC, etc) were added was to accommodate new players after the first wave of "old school" players had reached the higher levels. If leveling speed hadn't been increased they would have lost a large amount of players based on the fact they could never catch up to the ones who had simply been here longer. It's also the reason endgame gear was added to the cash shop. I'm not saying any of that was necessarily good for the game, but it's a business decision and I can sorta see why they made it.

    There's fun to be had, but it's not as easy to find as it was when the game was still growing.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • FragiIe - Dreamweaver
    FragiIe - Dreamweaver Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    its mIRC newbie not MiRC and i still use it with ICQ b:pleased

    OMG I haven't seen irc chat mentioned any where in years lol I still use it from time to time myself but it's not near what it used to be, think i 1st started using it in 1994 or 95 lol...ICQ still exists?

    and yea this game is nothing like what it used to be when we all squaded together to do quests.. i still do all mine on my alts but by myself for the most part
  • _kageyoshi_ - Heavens Tear
    _kageyoshi_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    i agree with OP, i do miss how it was back when i started playing. i didnt start when it came out, but october of 2009 was still early enough to see what it was once like, and what its like now. im finding it hard to keep playing and making new characters since there isnt anyone out there that is of the same lvl as me for too long. but, this is how the game is now, and we will all just have to learn to adapt to it or not play it anymore. b:surrender
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Oh please. There are all types of people in this game. If you don't have two braincells to rub together to wc for a faction that levels up the old way or to ask around for people that enjoy questing then you have no one to blame but yourself. Most of the people I know who level up the old way have a few questing partners they do everything with and they have just as much fun as the rest of us. This game and life are what you make of it.

    edit: And i'm all for slowing down leveling but sick of seeing the same QQ over and over about how it's somehow PWI's fault that you can find a good faction. Yeah its harder to get bhs done and hyper FC sucks in multiple ways. But there are things vets like you both can do and know how to do. You'd just rather QQ than do them. You aren't a new player. You know how to use a tele. Go find someone out there with a common interest. -__-

    There is a huge gap between typical male teenagers (rude and greedy) and other types. We are not in 2008/9 anymore, so I'm not whining about the new PWI. I see a few people questing ONLY during 2x, other than that I see literally 0-3 people questing. I knew most people back then doing a lot of quests. Now not even new players, but even veterans prefer to power level their alts "Why would I want to grind/quest again?" Face the reality here, because abusing the FC squad glitch is popular now. People don't even call it a glitch. I am speaking about most people, not the few people.

    I'm not QQing about leveling speed, getting BHs done? Bahahahahah. I just multiclient, that's why I have made more than 1 account. I used more than 300 teles looking for people with the same interest (in all) and guess what? I only had 2-3 people reply with the same interest when I need a full squad for doing something challenging. Even if it is FB with same levels only, then the random asks me for lead and they invite something overkill. That was a waste of time, just make more accounts and multiclient. You don't need anyone to play this game from 1-100, I learned that the hard way by looking for fun with others hindered my money making ability without cash shopping or merchanting.

    Edit: If some instances doesn't require a full squad or even 4 (like RBs) I would careless if I was missing a person or two... I still see people who like to play like the old way and I have high respect for them.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    PWI's aggressive **** of this game pretty much drove anyone with enough common sense to greener pastures.
  • chowchowhound
    chowchowhound Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    well, it has been said already "things evolve, go with the flow or leave"

    and there are still people who like to experience the content. they tend to be quieter though. if total tw/pk world domination isnt your immediate pressing goal, there is a boatload of stuff to do, and be relaxed about it.

    i use this game to relax from RL insanity, and it still works great for that. but i think it is too screwed up to really get invested in. these clowns could just pull the plug with no warning, so i would rather have a few new pieces of music gear in my hands for my RL $ spent vs some pixel **** that some other jerks can just take away at any moment.
  • laloner
    laloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's not that bad. Just join a faction and get some friends to play old school with you.

    Exactly. Socializing in the game is now all done in fac chat and fac voice chat channels. You can't really make friends anymore in the open world doing a mob quest. Sucks but its not really a huge deal. Join a fac, ask for help, respond when others need help, and don't flirt until you find out whose really a girl. Thats the new PW.
    AKA PermaSpark, Heartshatter
  • Reshanta - Sanctuary
    Reshanta - Sanctuary Posts: 350 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    To the OP: I stopped giving a **** about the current overall player attitude in this game, and just stick my routine. Log in, do faction base quest, do Crazy stone, Corona dailies, grind, help members, log off and sleep. I don't even read lame *** WC anymore, just faction chat. Don't look for friends, you'll always find the wrong ones this way. Find a routine, stick with it. Eventually, you'll attract some real friends.

    thumbs wrote: »
    -lol

    Might wanna try out this new game called MiRC!

    Those were some good times...
    Lonely man with a big heart.
  • tientiensuser
    tientiensuser Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    When they gave out free horns. That was pretty cool. So much chatter it crashed the servers. The game needs to evolve and realize that if a player was looking for friends, they would just go onto craigslist and look for "friends". Gameplay with easy progression is primary. The social aspect of MMOs is what separates it from other genres of gaming. But, normally, you dont play video games to make friends.
  • Xae_ - Archosaur
    Xae_ - Archosaur Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I was here in the beginning too on my main account. Started in Oct. 2008. (Remember? There weren't even genies yet back then.) b:chuckle I left for a few months to play EQ2 and came back and wow, it had changed a bit, but nothing like it would be if you came back NOW. PW is definitely all about the $$$, but you can still play it however you want. Just find a nice faction, make friends, and turn down the power leveling offers. :) It can still be a fun game to play, with the right people around you. Just might take a little time to find them. :)
  • TempleSlave - Lost City
    TempleSlave - Lost City Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Dear (forgein) community,

    i couldn't wait for the servers to go on in fall of 2008. I went up a bit ealier to be able to do the first 2 or 3 levels before i had to go to work.

    The game was amazing. Nice graphics, good sounds, a friendly and helpful community. I was easy to do the first quests and easy to to the first bosses cause you could just squad up and even find friends while questing with strangers.

    I was proud when Archosaur became my new home town, proud to do the first fb's with a squad of same level peoples. I couldn't wait till level 30 to be able to fly. It was a challenge to do 1 level up each day in the 40's. Later on it was funny to help the lower one with bosses fb's and what ever others needed. I remember the first TT 1-1 run to be very exciting.



    That happend from release in 2008 till winter 2009/2010. I had to stop playing to progress in my job.



    Nowadays in 2012 i got more time again and was looking for an mmorpg to play. I remembered the good old times with pwi so i started playing again last friday.

    I was happy to see my 72 Veno, 72 Cleric and 63 Wiz. Still there with their flying gear and veno's Herc and Nix i brought for 600$ (just checked how much i spended).

    Logged in and woke up in Archosaur where everything looked familiar. Did my Crazy Stone Quest, first BH and WQ like i did 2.5 years ago.

    "But what is this? 3 BH quests? Wow, that makes it really easy to lvl"

    After this i watched my quests and started questing with my Wizard. I always took quests and searched for other people at spot to group and do it together, cause otherwise it was much more difficult and boring to play. The Area around Tusk Town was always crowded cause there are alot of quests to do. But there were...no one. Not even 1 other person. (The forgein in the first line of this post makes a sense)

    That was the first time i wondered what is wrong. Maybe wrong time of the day? No, tried it some hours later.

    The same happened with my Veno and Cleric, no one around, everything is just empty. I watched the private Chatrooms. At least there must be people offering fb runs i thought. But No, nothing. While watching the chat (and ignoring the horns, seriously, i dont hate the CS but this really sucks, Trompet was enough) i noticed alot of ppl searching for others in 9x level. Today i noticed the plvl shouts and watched the forums for infos what it means.

    I'm kind of shocked. Seriously Perfect World Enertainment, that can't be true. Congratiulations on ruining this very very good game. Of cause you want to earn money with CS with senseless stuff like clothes and pigments. And Of cause there are Items like Inventory extension or EXP Scrolls, which give a slight advantage. But Making it THAT easy to reach higher levels to get more Money with the CS for high end stuff really sucks. it not just sucks, it destroys this lovely game. Like i mentioned, i also paid 600$ in a bit more than a year, which isn't nothing. I think there were alot of players like me before, didn't you earned enough money?

    Shocked greetings,
    Aywen


    It's because this game is empty. However, most of the people here on the forums will do or say anything because they're neurotic and in denial and the game isn't dead until the servers are turned off.

    The biggest landowning faction on LC doesn't even play the game anymore, they just log in once or twice a week for TW....
    I love puppies.... and sharp objects. b:pleased
  • Sparc - Harshlands
    Sparc - Harshlands Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    it's Because This Game Is Empty. However, Most Of The People Here On The Forums Will Do Or Say Anything Because They're Neurotic And In Denial And The Game Isn't Dead Until The Servers Are Turned Off.

    The Biggest Landowning Faction On Lc Doesn't Even Play The Game Anymore, They Just Log In Once Or Twice A Week For Tw....

    This -- Qft
  • tientiensuser
    tientiensuser Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    But its not a new game any more where every player starts out fresh at level 1. You are going to meet new people your level in that scenario. The game has been out for years and the moment you log in, you will already be seeing people at 105. Thus new players will undoubtedly want to catch up. They have no intention of having that nostalgic experience that some people keep talking about. Its not relevant to them.
  • Asone - Raging Tide
    Asone - Raging Tide Posts: 792 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Whelp, I still play the old-school way. At least till lv40 when BH's start. I just don't have the time anymore to grind any mob that requires 50+ kills as easy as they may be. I have never power leveled a character though, not once. Just makes the game seem shorter and pointless.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Retired PWI veteran. 06/26/2010-2014.
  • Lolgasmic - Raging Tide
    Lolgasmic - Raging Tide Posts: 1,315 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    PW Co will never be among the most liked MMO companies by gamers. They don't have any passion for their games. They just have a passion for money.

    precisely.... you dont have to be around long to notice it, just glance over to ********* for instance. Jagex genuinly cares about their game, same goes for blizzard for their WoW and Diablo 3
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Barbarian 103 - 101 - 101
    Started playing on March 2010
  • MystieMoon - Dreamweaver
    MystieMoon - Dreamweaver Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Well that's what happens when you sell levels and endgame gear in the cash shop xD Did anyone else expect differently really? The only places that have ppl in them is archosaur and snowy village b:laugh
  • Yulk_owns - Lost City
    Yulk_owns - Lost City Posts: 936 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    To the OP: I stopped giving a **** about the current overall player attitude in this game, and just stick my routine. Log in, do faction base quest, do Crazy stone, Corona dailies, grind, help members, log off and sleep. I don't even read lame *** WC anymore, just faction chat. Don't look for friends, you'll always find the wrong ones this way. Find a routine, stick with it. Eventually, you'll attract some real friends.

    Say... You know what? Good idea! No, I'm serious. Sticking with your routine is better than trying to fit in with morons. That's how I made my friends too. I stopped posting and even bothered lurking the forums. Just nothing but assassin QQ. Just stick with your routine and your good. Really good post. +1.
    I, II and III spark is the most cheesiest skill in PWI and it should be removed or massively nerfed.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]