Advice once again..

Chelestine - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm sure most has already been said, but to sum up from own experiences (been playing both veno and psy on this server, and veno for 3 years on old malaysian)




Psychics are one of the hardest hitting classes in the game at higher levels, and have some great buffs (voodoo) to both increase damage and control it.

Venos have average damage output, but it is increased with the presence of a pet. Venos pets also hit at full damage on [?] bosses, which is a great boost to the overall damage output when added to armour break and amplify.

Conclusion: Psychics are best for single bursts of great damage, venos for increasing everyone else's damage.




Psychics can kill single mobs at a high and efficient rate, and at low level for example, I always pick a psychic to farm hay for instance. The only problem you will face is the mana consumption.
Grinding in instances such as TT or FF, I wouldn't suggest a psychic.
Herb gathering can be done on any class, but you would need to use a mount/fly to get around faster and be prepared to fight off mobs nearby.

Venos used to be the single best farming character before aps, and still is, even though most people would pick another class that would do the job faster. Because of the pets damage and the venos healing abilities, they make a great duo for farming solo or lower party instances of TT, and can run FF sufficiently enough, it just takes a lot of time and effort.
They grind considerably well too, being able to use the pet as initial tank and DD the mobs before they reach the veno to do damage.
Herb gathering I personally find is easiest on a veno or cleric. Venos can use their pet to distract an almost unlimited amount of mobs while digging, and can reset them by just running to the next mat. If you're also a demon veno with fox form, you can travel on foot with your pet summoned at all times, which increases the farming rate considerably.

Conclusion: Venos would be ideal for most parts of the farming/grinding aspect, apart from maybe low level mob farming where the psychics DD greatly outdoes the venos.




Psychics will drain mana quite fast, even though their skills don't require too much MP at max level. Due to the high damage you can kill things in a couple of hits, preserving mana that way, but it will decrease considerably faster than the venos, and pots is needed for larger amounts of grinding/killing.

Venos are one of the most mana-sparing classes I've played. The main skill you will use consumes only 68.8 mp at level 10, compared to the psychics equivalent at 140 mp. That's just over half the mana needed. The damage output is of course not as good, but if you're trying to conserve your mana, you can use your pet to kill. If a mob is left with, say 200 hp, instead of using a whole other skill, your pet will finish it off for you. Venos also have their own skills of gaining mp back, and switching their mp and hp around for even more flexibility.

Conclusion: Venos win this one by far.




Psychics can at later levels with a lot of health and defence solo FF, but so can any other class in the game, so that's definitely not a selling point. Other than that, low level instances such as fb's can be solod up to 59, though 49 might prove tricky with the amounts of physical mobs.

Venos, like mentioned before, can quite easily solo a few select TT instances, FF and most fbs too. 69 can't be solod too easily due to the nasty debuffs of the bosses, but if wined, most instances up to 89/99 could be solod (haven't tried myself, so don't quote me on this, but I've squaded with several venos that have claimed to do so).

Conclusion: Venos pet makes it possible to solo these and make up for the lack of defence.




Psychics can be quite tricky to get the full packages from unless you can afford to upgrade their gear for better hp/defence and damage. Sage/Demon versions also help a lot at 89+, and for a good nirvana team later on I'm sure you'll need quite good stuff if you're going to be the aggro-keeper.

Venos can suffice with average gear and hp (though not recommended) until you can afford to get some better stuff, either by farming instances and selling mats from there or herb gathering. It all requires a lot of time, but if you rather spend time than money, then I'd suggest venos for this. The only thing that may be of concern is the Hercules pet. It is not a necessity for a veno, but it greatly helps increase your farming and tanking capabilities. Some TT instances are only doable with a herc, for example.

Conclusion: Venos will be easier on the wallet, but all classes do require some quite expensive stuff once they reach 100 at least, and preferrably by the time they get to 90 or even 80, as the team-based stuff becomes very challenging if you're poorly geared.




Psychics have a myriad of various skills, buffs, aoes, support skills etc, and it definitely takes a lot of practise to make sure you make the most out of your psychic. But once you get the hang of what to do in which situation, the psychic is extremely versatile with great crowd control and DD support.

Venos are pretty straight-forward. You receive a few new skills every ten levels, of which one will be a magic skill, one a pet skill (or most likely just the chance to upgrade as there's only three of them), a few buffs/self-buffs and some fox form skills. If you're an arcane veno you will be focusing on the magic skills, and since there's not many to choose from, you're left with little choice of what to use in certain situation. If you're LA/HA you can make more use of your fox skills, but again, there's not too much choice.

Conclusion: Venos require the least consideration and practise. There are some few nifty tricks for PVP that you only learn with experience, but compared to the psychics mass of skills and tricks, it's just skimming the surface compared to the potential of the psychics. Not saying venos would suffer from this, I'm simply just saying if you're the type that aren't too fond of pressing the same 3 keys over and over, psychics will offer the variety more.

Overall sum-up: While psychics are great fun to play and are very wanted for their aoes and high DD, I would recommend a veno if you're new to the game. The veno may seem boring at low level, but will become a lot more fun and interesting at higher levels. It's also great as you can solo many bosses for quests, and you don't have to rely on other teams to constantly aid you. Even though I had a veno for over 3 years before, I made one again as my first character on this version, and while I don't play her actively any more, I don't regret it. It was such a relief to have a higher level soloable character to help my poor low levels clear their bh's and emissaries fast, and I was able to do it all myself rather than standing around for hours waiting for help. She was a great stepping-stone and basically opened the world for me.


I hope that helped to clear up some thoughts. Please note that I don't claim this is the one and only answer, because there are so many different ways of playing that the answers could be completely different coming from someone else. These are just my own observation in the playing style that I use.

PS. My veno is full arcane with some points in VIT, and psychic is full arcane. I can't tell you how a full HA veno or aps veno would compare to a psychic simply because I have never experienced playing as one.