BM or Seeker?

xblackskatex
xblackskatex Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Blademaster
So i got a 90 seeker , and im wondering if a 90 bm is better...i mean wich one would u choose? :-/ just leave some comments with seeker or bm.. thank you..
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  • X_Chanelle_x - Sanctuary
    X_Chanelle_x - Sanctuary Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Like I would always say, that depends on your playstyle.
    I, myself, would choose a Seeker, because I like their Magic, ranged attacks and I would really prefer being a 2nd Tank. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think BMs used to be great 2nd Tanks, but I think Seekers kind of replaced them. As I said, correct me if I am wrong.
    The pro of BMs would seem to me that you can choose 4 different weapon paths, so you can create a kind of BM you would want. If you want to hit more and have more HP, you could choose Axe/Hammer. If you want to have more APS, you could choose Fists. Poles and Swords are in between those 2.
  • pieman001
    pieman001 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Seekers have out classed bm's. Unfortunately i didn't know that when i started. Yea a 5 aps bm is really strong, and to me Bm are just for damage support, because the sin or phy will do most of the damage.Plus,by level 79, they only skills worth using are HF roar of pride and drake bash and optionally diamond sutra along with buffs, so it's a huge $$ issue because you have to buy many skills for no reason, and you must by many types of weapons

    But honestly if you want to be the strongest go with seeker. If you like being support for squad by using HF and have aps, go with BM.

    I wouldn't get a bm because of aps though, i rather have a 5aps sin than a 5 aps bm because even though fist are faster, daggers do more damge and aps max is 5, so daggers will be stronger and just as as fast as fist.

    it's to late for me to switch to seeker, so i suggest stay with seeker.
  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    X_Chanelle_x - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Like I would always say, that depends on your playstyle.
    I, myself, would choose a Seeker, because I like their Magic, ranged attacks and I would really prefer being a 2nd Tank. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think BMs used to be great 2nd Tanks, but I think Seekers kind of replaced them. As I said, correct me if I am wrong.
    The pro of BMs would seem to me that you can choose 4 different weapon paths, so you can create a kind of BM you would want. If you want to hit more and have more HP, you could choose Axe/Hammer. If you want to have more APS, you could choose Fists. Poles and Swords are in between those 2.

    I feel sad that most bm only have fists and axes and skills are not maxed. If you use all 4 weapons, and have skills maxed in each, the ones you use, bm is awesome fun. Because of being 5 aps non sparked, i can get 3 skills used right after each other that take 2 sparks each. Imagine the love when mss, gs, hf all at once, and other people do 100~300k hits. For my bm it's all about having fun.

    When i see that our main tank has died, some bosses do cause squad wipes b:surrender, and i manage to keep alive, i can tank the bosses, until the others come back. The seekers in our faction can keep alive and do the same task as well. There is no such thing as rivalry that all you people exhibit in your posts, it is a matter of playing your class. Every class has its role and uses that are defined by the person who plays it.
    pieman001 wrote: »
    Seekers have out classed bm's. Unfortunately i didn't know that when i started. Yea a 5 aps bm is really strong, and to me Bm are just for damage support, because the sin or phy will do most of the damage.Plus,by level 79, they only skills worth using are HF roar of pride and drake bash and optionally diamond sutra along with buffs, so it's a huge $$ issue because you have to buy many skills for no reason, and you must by many types of weapons

    But honestly if you want to be the strongest go with seeker. If you like being support for squad by using HF and have aps, go with BM.

    I wouldn't get a bm because of aps though, i rather have a 5aps sin than a 5 aps bm because even though fist are faster, daggers do more damge and aps max is 5, so daggers will be stronger and just as as fast as fist.

    it's to late for me to switch to seeker, so i suggest stay with seeker.

    I will give you one example, g13 sin with +5 can not steal agro from my g15 +7 bm. Every time i do runs, i check sin weapons to see if i am tanking or not. If r9+8 is lazy, only triple sparks and auto attacks, i will keep agro as well. If r8+4, 3.33 uses skills, no way i can keep agro from that sin. It is not that sins do more damage than bm. It is a matter of what gear you have and what skills you are willing to use. If no one is willing to use skills, it takes eternity to do things at 100 plus, that is why everyone works together, there is no one class is better. Each has their pro and con, until you gear is +10 or higher b:dirty

    That being said, i hate tanking bosses, why would i want to take agro and have a boss hit me? increases my repair bill.

    That being said, a seeker with g15 sword, +11, can not keep agro from a 5 aps bm, +6 decide, if bm gets the hits in first. If a barb is give some time to do his/her stuff, sins will have a very hard time stealing agro. It really comes down to skills, gear, and what you want to do.

    That being said, seekers have awesome debuffs, just like bm's, and they are support dd. I have yet to see a sin hit 500k+ on boss b:shocked. Casters b:angry, stealing the big numbers. There is more to each class than simply what people think there is. Everyone thinks, bm is hf, aps and bell. New content has proven otherwise.
    Below lvl 100 is a different story

    With all that mumbo jumbo done, there are some things to consider, how well is either character geared? What instances do you run most often? What lvl on the gear do you want to reach?

    BM's are taken in all instances, caster included. Seekers as well. It's just depends if you can find the squad for it or make it. I do aba, seat, lunar,bh warsong, delta, tt, nirvana, caster, tm 69, 99, lunar, full warsong. I have seen both classes do wonders there, but it depends on skills of the player and the gear.
  • mkl0011
    mkl0011 Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    jabq wrote: »
    I feel sad that most bm only have fists and axes and skills are not maxed. If you use all 4 weapons, and have skills maxed in each, the ones you use, bm is awesome fun. Because of being 5 aps non sparked, i can get 3 skills used right after each other that take 2 sparks each. Imagine the love when mss, gs, hf all at once, and other people do 100~300k hits. For my bm it's all about having fun.

    When i see that our main tank has died, some bosses do cause squad wipes b:surrender, and i manage to keep alive, i can tank the bosses, until the others come back. The seekers in our faction can keep alive and do the same task as well. There is no such thing as rivalry that all you people exhibit in your posts, it is a matter of playing your class. Every class has its role and uses that are defined by the person who plays it.



    I will give you one example, g13 sin with +5 can not steal agro from my g15 +7 bm. Every time i do runs, i check sin weapons to see if i am tanking or not. If r9+8 is lazy, only triple sparks and auto attacks, i will keep agro as well. If r8+4, 3.33 uses skills, no way i can keep agro from that sin. It is not that sins do more damage than bm. It is a matter of what gear you have and what skills you are willing to use. If no one is willing to use skills, it takes eternity to do things at 100 plus, that is why everyone works together, there is no one class is better. Each has their pro and con, until you gear is +10 or higher b:dirty

    That being said, i hate tanking bosses, why would i want to take agro and have a boss hit me? increases my repair bill.

    That being said, a seeker with g15 sword, +11, can not keep agro from a 5 aps bm, +6 decide, if bm gets the hits in first. If a barb is give some time to do his/her stuff, sins will have a very hard time stealing agro. It really comes down to skills, gear, and what you want to do.

    That being said, seekers have awesome debuffs, just like bm's, and they are support dd. I have yet to see a sin hit 500k+ on boss b:shocked. Casters b:angry, stealing the big numbers. There is more to each class than simply what people think there is. Everyone thinks, bm is hf, aps and bell. New content has proven otherwise.
    Below lvl 100 is a different story

    With all that mumbo jumbo done, there are some things to consider, how well is either character geared? What instances do you run most often? What lvl on the gear do you want to reach?

    BM's are taken in all instances, caster included. Seekers as well. It's just depends if you can find the squad for it or make it. I do aba, seat, lunar,bh warsong, delta, tt, nirvana, caster, tm 69, 99, lunar, full warsong. I have seen both classes do wonders there, but it depends on skills of the player and the gear.

    Yea that's true it's depends on how each player is geared to see who is stronger. But say a BM and a seeker both are using top gear +12 on all of them... all socketed and sol gems to their max... which is almost impossible...

    I think what he want's to know which would be better(both having the ULTIMATE SUPREME gear +12 etc) at pvp..or if he likes pve ,depending on his style
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  • Zliss - Lost City
    Zliss - Lost City Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    bm and seeker can aoe

    bm can perma stunt, 5 aps

    seeker cant 5 aps, but u can do a big pull in phoenix valley solo, everyday to level up quickly

    bm can get into squads for bh, NV for dragon, stunt, etc

    seeker can go into bh squads too but maybe not nv much.

    bm requires decent gear to be effective (correct me this if i'm wrong)

    seeker maybe hh 90 is sufficient..
  • _Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear
    _Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear Posts: 562 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    From my experience a bm is more useful than a seeker because bms have a higher damage out put better control skills and amps. From what i have seen seekers are only wanted for FF big room.
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  • Aasaf - Sanctuary
    Aasaf - Sanctuary Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    mkl0011 wrote: »
    Yea that's true it's depends on how each player is geared to see who is stronger. But say a BM and a seeker both are using top gear +12 on all of them... all socketed and sol gems to their max... which is almost impossible...

    I think what he want's to know which would be better(both having the ULTIMATE SUPREME gear +12 etc) at pvp..or if he likes pve ,depending on his style

    If OP can get end game gear, +12 with stones/shards, might as well roll both classes b:victory. FCC = money, cost money to lvl, since that is not an issue, go both classes.

    As you said, depends on playing styles, and what OP wants in game. I see lots of people in game wasting their time looking for things to do, rather than doing them. If someone is like that, in my opinion all instances are closed to you. If you try out things, create squads, get people involved, you will never be bored. Both classes can be taken anywhere, just depends if you want to play the game (farm things) or just power lvl and look for pvp, end game pve instances.
  • Nochaelf - Lost City
    Nochaelf - Lost City Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    personally~~...i like seekers better (..ignore the fact that im a seekerb:chuckle)

    well....i mean..the mag attks r awesome~~b:pleased

    and if u have good gear...u can do solo pulls in PV and FCC...(and lvl real fast..)

    i mean....i lvled from 85-95 in no more than 1 week(doing only free BR for seekers..paid nothing for it...except from pots..ofc.)b:victory

    But if u wanna go with APS...bm might be the better choice..

    well..both of their aoe is awesome..(personally..i like vortex better than dragon)

    well...to be honest..it still depends on what role u wanna play....

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  • Mi$$y - Sanctuary
    Mi$$y - Sanctuary Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I would choose a Seeker personally. I've had plenty experience with both. (albeit my low level avatar) I don't think either is 'better' though, just depends on preference. Seeker is more versatile.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Since when could barbs keep aggro from r9 sins?
    kinda skimmed the post and saw barbs keeping aggro and r9 so dont judge me -.-
  • thumbs
    thumbs Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands wrote: »
    Since when could barbs keep aggro from r9 sins?
    kinda skimmed the post and saw barbs keeping aggro and r9 so dont judge me -.-[/COLOR]

    There are some very fail OP geared sins out there.

    The reasons I'm not rolling a Seeker (already have wizard):

    They're slow like Wizards.
    Their MP costs are much higher than Wizards.
    With Cleric, BM, and Self buffs; my pure mag wizard has more pdef than mdef.
    My wizard is the most gimped mage of the 4 I play; yet is more useful than most seekers I see.

    Once you get good gear: Wizard operating costs go way down. Good gear doesn't make up as much for Seeker MP costs.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thumbs wrote: »
    There are some very fail OP geared sins out there.

    The reasons I'm not rolling a Seeker (already have wizard):

    They're slow like Wizards.
    Their MP costs are much higher than Wizards.
    With Cleric, BM, and Self buffs; my pure mag wizard has more pdef than mdef.
    My wizard is the most gimped mage of the 4 I play; yet is more useful than most seekers I see.

    Once you get good gear: Wizard operating costs go way down. Good gear doesn't make up as much for Seeker MP costs.

    True.
  • xhotrod
    xhotrod Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    1. HF + Squad damage > Vortex + Squad damage

    2. BMs have 2 speed skills

    3. Aoe stun is awesome


    I would choose Seeker if you want to PvP. Ever since they patched Cancel Casting, BM's are no more fun to me. Seekers are more fun because they require good combos instead of just stunning and let auto attack do the work. Plus Seekers have more cool looking skills.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    xhotrod wrote: »
    1. HF + Squad damage > Vortex + Squad damage

    2. BMs have 2 speed skills

    3. Aoe stun is awesome


    I would choose Seeker if you want to PvP. Ever since they patched Cancel Casting, BM's are no more fun to me. Seekers are more fun because they require good combos instead of just stunning and let auto attack do the work. Plus Seekers have more cool looking skills.

    The texture on seeker skil
    S is awesome
  • dresden69
    dresden69 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Coming from a strictly pve background, Seeker takes the cake for me. Their versatility with both magic/phys, and melee/ranged skills, enables them to easily take down any type of mob, even if they're inc def, or ing magic def. And seekers also have plenty of aoes.

    Also, due to seeker only being able to use swords, their builds allow for alot more vit than most bms, so they generally have higher base hp. Also, by lvl 74, with O'Malley's blessing, they can have a constant 45 def lvl, which is alot more useful in the long run than using marrow for a whole 30 seconds.

    They're a balanced class in both offence and defence. Sure, both seekers and bm's lack mdef, and bm's have more pdef (this is without shards and whatnot), but with seeker's possible 45 def lvl (yes, I know it can get higher, much higher with the right gear and shards, but i'm not factoring those in), they can tank more than bms (once again, excluding buffs, shards, etc, just going from base gear etc).
  • Morridune - Raging Tide
    Morridune - Raging Tide Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    xblackskatex wrote: »
    So i got a 90 seeker , and im wondering if a 90 bm is better...

    *YAWN*
    one of these again, i mean really still? there isn't some "ULTIMATE CLASS OF OP"
    BM does some stuff really well , seeker does some other stuff really well so over all it depends what stuff it is u wanna do -.-

    perhaps what you should be asking is more "what class is better suited to ...." or what do players who have both find more fun.

    Asking what class is the bestest everrrr yayyy!!! is daft/nab as you will get a different answer from nearly every1 u ask

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