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  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Honestly...if I were a GM, I wouldn't come here either. When one does they are blasted, called names, yelled and cursed at. Any sort of apology or explanation is responded to in that way from us. One appears in WC/system messages and they get the same thing there. Is it any wonder they have disappeared?
    We have no idea what they do to fix this stuff. Maybe they work hard to get this stuff from China, maybe they don't. We don't know. And will never know as long we continue to lash out that way.
    And we can't say that they don't care. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I sure as hell wouldn't come here to only be called names and yelled at.

    Most of the negativity came after the gms stopped caring liek they used to... Remember that it wasn't always like that. Also, there are people who always hate on the gms, so trying to avoid flames is near impossible. The amount of it though largely depends on the gm's actions.
    I guarantee you if Spoons ever stopped by just to say hi he would be praised as a savoir.

    As for wanmei... I don't know.. They have an inefficient method of running things, and knowing a thing or two about the client itself makes me even more aware of just how insane it is that small issues and errors can go forever without being fixed.
    Sometimes I just wish I never known about pw because it makes me feel sad that the potential it had/has isn't being taken advantage of. I'd rather be ignorant of the whole thing. There is a reason why there are so many p servers for pw.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Goon glitch wasn't a game breaker. People just whine about anything and everything.

    *edit; and my highest level toon is only 103 btw.
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  • Cotillion - Dreamweaver
    Cotillion - Dreamweaver Posts: 671 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Bubbles - Lothranis wrote: »
    Most of the negativity came after the gms stopped caring liek they used to... Remember that it wasn't always like that. Also, there are people who always hate on the gms, so trying to avoid flames is near impossible. The amount of it though largely depends on the gm's actions.
    I guarantee you if Spoons ever stopped by just to say hi he would be praised as a savoir.
    Honestly...I remember alot of this same lashing out and hate even as far back as when Veno's were QQ'd for being OP and whatnot...basically the cashshop 5aps Sins of their time. people saying the same things in rude ways about being able to buy a pet that could solo TT was the worst thing ever to some players, not to mention the Nix.
    Spoons...yeah he was an exception, I'll give ya that.
  • YingFei - Dreamweaver
    YingFei - Dreamweaver Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    meanwhile trying to enter delta without losing a member in the glitch.
    7th try, wish us luck...
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  • TempleSlave - Lost City
    TempleSlave - Lost City Posts: 324 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Several people in this thread believe the +11 and +12 orb sale caused a glitch or instability. How gullible. +12 orbs were selling 2/$100. When wanmei found out that PWE were giving away thousands of dollars worth of virutal merchandise for hundreds of dollars, they put a stop to it really quickly. You people believed their bs. You should facepalm yourselves.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I didn't believe them, but it's easier for me to just say "orb fix" instead of explaining the situation. People are so impatient that they won't read wall of texts anyway.
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  • gouraudpalm2
    gouraudpalm2 Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    That remembered a song..

    "Constant quick fixes...."
    "You make no sense!......."
  • Knownase - Heavens Tear
    Knownase - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,959 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I wonder if the top factions of each server, decided to have a PK fest in SP back when it was PK enabled, what would have PWi done?

    Would they have fixed it faster, or simply ignored it, regardless of the player outcries?

    I feel like the "fixes" players were trying to post on the forums for r8r psy weapon pressured PWi into doing it, since those fixes can cause massive disconnecting and would have been a terrible exploit if more players have used it.
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  • Kristina_t - Heavens Tear
    Kristina_t - Heavens Tear Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Knownase - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I wonder if the top factions of each server, decided to have a PK fest in SP back when it was PK enabled, what would have PWi done?

    Would they have fixed it faster, or simply ignored it, regardless of the player outcries?

    I feel like the "fixes" players were trying to post on the forums for r8r psy weapon pressured PWi into doing it, since those fixes can cause massive disconnecting and would have been a terrible exploit if more players have used it.

    No need to ask a hypothetical question like that. Top factions on each server took advantage of a frost covered glitch to breed lvl 105s and lvl 100+ alts. We all saw how slow pwe responded to that and there is still no fix.
  • Sparc - Harshlands
    Sparc - Harshlands Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So PWI just "fixed" a very dangerous bug(Psy R8r weapon),and no one says nothing?

    Where are those chronic whiners that says PWE doesn't fix a thing / this and that?

    I realize that its not an actual fix(They just removed the model for now),but wow,they did something in a relatively short time!

    Hahaha, it must be great being naive...

    First of all, PWE doesn't give a **** about ANYTHING unless it affects their wallets / paychecks! So yes, if it negatively affects their wallet or pay-check you had better bet they will fix it, AND FAST! However, if it does not specifically NEGATIVELY affect their wallet or pay check they will let it go FOREVER!!! Why, because they could not care less about anything, unless it meant they were making less money than they could be...
  • Sparc - Harshlands
    Sparc - Harshlands Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Actually, now we're on the 5th page and still no response from OP...

    Smells like TROLL to me O.O

    How could anyone stick up for PWE any longer after all the **** they've been pulling since 2008!?

    Troll I tell you, troll !
  • Reaperarm - Harshlands
    Reaperarm - Harshlands Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Sparc - Harshlands wrote: »
    Hahaha, it must be great being naive...

    First of all, PWE doesn't give a **** about ANYTHING unless it affects their wallets / paychecks! So yes, if it negatively affects their wallet or pay-check you had better bet they will fix it, AND FAST! However, if it does not specifically NEGATIVELY affect their wallet or pay check they will let it go FOREVER!!! Why, because they could not care less about anything, unless it meant they were making less money than they could be...

    Exactly. Remember when they did emergency maint once time when they forgot to put packs on sale in the boutique? They do emergency maint for that but wait 3 weeks to fix a bug that caused clients to crash.
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  • Slivaf - Dreamweaver
    Slivaf - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,106 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Honestly in my own honest opinion, even if this was indeed a quick fix, they are finding fixes to little too late, sadly.

    A lot of people have done left the game, I for one realize finding suitable fixes takes time, and even when they find certain fixes the updates seem to alienate a great deal of their player base. (I am indeed referring to the recent update where things have become harder than they need to be, albeit that is in great thanks to a lot of the QQers saying things are too easy, aps is too overpowered in pve/pvp, etc. I am not saying aps wasn't overpowered in pve... but yea the warsong defending is one of the most noticeable places everyone has been screwed over unless you have gear that far out levels the gear you could even get in the instance.)

    Making it harder in my opinion was not really the best way to do it... sure it is nice to have a bit of a challenge now... but for the most part warsong, and lunar still aren't worth it, at least not on my server. (the essence of defense are on the fall in the market.) That's not even mentioning the nigh insane difficulty most people now have defending the lanes, killing the mobs, and even the first final boss in warsong. (the 5 aps one) (I for one really hate doing things that cost me a hell of a lot of cash, to only get chips... albeit it can be turned into cash somewhat... but still don't like chips as a reward on bh lunar nights. There really should be something that balances it out for every single person in squad when they all go into lunar, hell even lowering the overall 3m fee in lunar down to 1.5m (preferably 1m max) would probably make it a lot more worth it to people.

    Now don't get me wrong I am grateful that pwi has done something relatively fast, but still whether or not this will continue, and their updates will be just as friendly to those who don't have epic gear as it is to those people that do, will remain open for interpretation after each update.

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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    My biggest complaint isn't that things are too hard or too easy, but that they changed existing things instead of actually adding new things. Sure they added AEU, not a problem since it was probably designed with Morai but not ready to be realised with the main descent expansion, but why not add Advanced SoT or Advanced Abaddon why add things to the existing when they could create a truely new experience by reworking it into an alternate instance.

    Well the answer to why is obviously because the devs are lazy and possiblly incompentent given how the upadate they sent us had a bad file that caused crashes for 3 weeks (r8r soulsphere)
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  • alymara
    alymara Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    BerserkBeast - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So PWI just "fixed" a very dangerous bug(Psy R8r weapon),and no one says nothing?

    Where are those chronic whiners that says PWE doesn't fix a thing / this and that?

    I realize that its not an actual fix(They just removed the model for now),but wow,they did something in a relatively short time!

    @OP: Thats just the thing thought, they did not fix anything. They Stole Bubbles fix and implemented it.

    Plus Bubbles fix was not as big a down load, So only they know what other nerfs, BS and useless garbage they put in with Bubbles fix.

    I for one think Bubbles should be compensated for their work that they stole and used with out paying for it.
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide wrote: »
    My biggest complaint isn't that things are too hard or too easy, but that they changed existing things instead of actually adding new things. Sure they added AEU, not a problem since it was probably designed with Morai but not ready to be realised with the main descent expansion, but why not add Advanced SoT or Advanced Abaddon why add things to the existing when they could create a truely new experience by reworking it into an alternate instance.

    With those particular BHs they didnt like that a sin could just stealth straight to the boss and easily do the BH solo unwined. All of the other BHs require a team to open so they didn't need fixing.
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  • ZoracGallant - Raging Tide
    ZoracGallant - Raging Tide Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Would have been simplier for them to require a kill count for the instance like 69/79 or the boss frenzy and 1 shot you. Then those sins are forced to wine and wineing 1-burns coins which they like and 2-when it's wined it takes maybe 5 mins longer to do to kill the few mobs left then it does stealthing past them.
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  • SinnerPunk - Dreamweaver
    SinnerPunk - Dreamweaver Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    NecroTwist - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If you check the cabbage patch notes, genotypist posted this :

    - Removed the graphics on a particular Psychic weapon, which would crash a player's client upon equipping. A working graphic model will be reimplemented in a future patch.

    if you aren't smart enough to realize what that means, i'll explain it. this issue was created at the imperial fury patch, almost three weeks ago (i think). in that time all they did was REMOVE the graphic causing the glitch, they did not fix it. in that time, the player base made its own fix. (stab at the threads creator, 2 weeks to implement a temporary solution to a bug that caused major client instability is NOT a short time.)

    they did not fix the +11/+12 orb glitch, they REMOVED them from the boutique 2 days after the glitch appeared, (was not playing at this time but so i dont know if it has been fixed). There was nothing to fix here...they just removed 'em because they were told to. Probably because they were a lot cheaper than using 1* and 10* orbs to make 'em. I played both days and saw no instability. People I know who bought the orbs saw no instability. THERE WAS NOTHING TO FIX!!

    they did not fix the goons glitch (still have not), they MODIFIED the exp of normal mobs to prevent said abuse and that was MONTHS after it was discovered and started being abused. not only did they not punish the abusers (im sorry but a 7day ban is not punishment for this offense, its a break from the game, come back and not be so bored, i do it all the time) but they punished the ENTIRE player base by doing this. this "FIX" caused the second half of FCC/FC to lose 95% of possible exp for non glitchers server wide and therefore getting people to help with it is nearly impossible. now the only way to finish the quests in there is to be able to solo it yourself or find friends that are helpful. and unfortunately, lately at least in sanctuary server, alot of those players are quitting or becoming jerks. <--how is that FIXING?


    THIS is why we complain that they fix nothing.

    a simple fix that could have been used, especially sincethey knew exactly what weapon it was, was to change the entire ingame image of the weapon to another until they discovered the cause of the issue. but no, they waited weeks to just remove it until it gets fixed. previous games ive played, the gm's were ONLINE after the patch, to watch for issues. some games went down less than an hour after a patch bc there were major glitches. that doesnt happen here.

    this..with an addition to the 11*/12* orbs sale discussion

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