Which R9 Build?

stealthxbomber
stealthxbomber Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2012 in Blademaster
Build 1: http://pwcalc.com/2572086c321ba153

Build 2: http://pwcalc.com/dced3446fd4f1952

Basically, I want all of your inputs on which of these builds would be better suited to an Open-PK/TW standpoint. Factor out the cost of the Heavenrage Boots/tt99 bracers, since I already have both of them. Oh and don't rip my head off for having a full DoT Cape of Elite Leather, it was made for my wiz before DoTs were 30m b:surrender. Clearly Build 2 has an edge on crit and phys atk, but Build 1 has a bit more defense. Ty in advance. b:thanks
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  • FateBlade - Lost City
    FateBlade - Lost City Posts: 519 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    http://pwcalc.com/74424139c55bdb44

    Say bye to your other cheap stuff. b:bye
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Sjuggs - Lost City
    Sjuggs - Lost City Posts: 617 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Ummm, wouldnt be very smart to get r9 now, go farm 3rd cast nv which is quite easy to get, hardest part is to get 2nd cast b:laugh
  • stealthxbomber
    stealthxbomber Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    On a second thought maybe I don't want everyone's input.
  • SSCaster - Lost City
    SSCaster - Lost City Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    stealthxbomber wrote: »
    Build 1: http://pwcalc.com/2572086c321ba153

    Build 2: http://pwcalc.com/dced3446fd4f1952

    Basically, I want all of your inputs on which of these builds would be better suited to an Open-PK/TW standpoint. Factor out the cost of the Heavenrage Boots/tt99 bracers, since I already have both of them. Oh and don't rip my head off for having a full DoT Cape of Elite Leather, it was made for my wiz before DoTs were 30m b:surrender. Clearly Build 2 has an edge on crit and phys atk, but Build 1 has a bit more defense. Ty in advance. b:thanks

    Holy....Ok let's start this off:

    1.) Upgrade your shards to at LEAST vit stones in all the gear that has immac hp shards.

    2.) UPGRADE YOUR DAMN M.DEF. Right now, with either gear setup, you are a one-shot to a crapily geared and refined caster class.

    3.) Remove the lionheart belt and use a r9 belt or a warsong belt when you are PvP'ing with a damn axe.

    4.) Also, if you can afford to get r9 pieces, at least get them to +10. (Wep mainly, the armor can be +7-8 if you wanna be a cheap-***)


    5.) Overall, improvements to your build would look like so:

    http://pwcalc.com/4bf17df534032bb3


    This setup provides better m.def, which means less likely to be one-shot by a magic class; it also provides more attack power with your axes which means with a crit you have a better chance of doing enough damage to kill your target.




    I hate newbie players like you who go into pwcalc and put **** in there that is super *** expensive and then don't bother to equally shard it as such.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    SSCaster - Lost City wrote: »

    I hate newbie players like you who go into pwcalc and put **** in there that is super *** expensive and then don't bother to equally shard it as such.

    I think the gear setup was a patchwork of pieces he already has and he's just trying to get the better setup without investing into new pieces. It looks like a 2009 blademaster mixed with a sin mixed with a caster, lol. Why else would he have a pdef cape, aps pieces on an axe bm, a +10 vit tome, Tide of Elysium instead of G15 or R9 or R8r, and pick a Warsoul helm as endgame gear?

    One important question are the goals of OP. He doesn't have a dps setup, but has 220 dex and -int. He has 730m axes, but +7 refines. He looks possibly pvp but has 3.8k mdef and only 9.4k hp. Like I said, it's patchwork that doesn't fit.

    But you are right. TT99 belt should be used for -int or on switch. If not for that then use an mdef belt. Upgrade the TT99 wrists too if not being used for a fist setup.

    Go for two piece G15 bonus with either pants and helm or pants and cape. I'd say pants and helm to upgrade from Warsoul.

    I heart R9 boots for their run speed bonus and event boots stopped being good shortly after they came out. What made them special was +8 was high refines before D orb sales and they offered a nice hp amount and refine rate.

    If you don't plan to PvP (defense levels, hp, refines, and mdef suggest you don't) then don't waste the money on R9 axes. The weapon alone is around 735m on my server, plus another 500m for rep and ring and only slightly better than the 17m Morai weapon. 1.25bil vs 17m...
    Seven 100+ characters leveled the hard way. Free to play. Mystic, Psychic, and Wizard left to level. b:victory
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    http://pwcalc.com/95aff175c710e474

    My personal opinion this would be the best change and not increasing cost of the build by too much. Then for next upgrade to get r9 wrists.

    SSCaster - Lost City wrote: »
    Holy....Ok let's start this off:

    1.) Upgrade your shards to at LEAST vit stones in all the gear that has immac hp shards.

    4.) Also, if you can afford to get r9 pieces, at least get them to +10. (Wep mainly, the armor can be +7-8 if you wanna be a cheap-***)

    I hate newbie players like you who go into pwcalc and put **** in there that is super *** expensive and then don't bother to equally shard it as such.

    You're kindof missing some of the point in what he was asking, he's talking about a stepping up build, yes if you get r9 weap it should be +10 but ppl don't always have money to immediately get endgame refine and shards on there gear. He's asking what kinda of gear combination would work best for starting to change his gear into an endgame build. To then go and get those pieces first.

    To go ahead and put vit stones into gear that he plans to replace doesn't make much sense. Which is why they don't have them, and why his gear has shards that are much cheaper to just hold a place till he has more money.
  • stealthxbomber
    stealthxbomber Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Perhaps I should have mentioned for those who lack common sense, this is not permanent end game gear. I could just post a full jade +12 R9 hurrdurr build, but what discussion is there in that? I'm trying to be realistic. This is just something I'll use to PK as I work towards finishing R9 and other permanent items, such as nirv helm+cape.

    SSCaster, putting primevals in temporary gear would probably be the worst thing I could do atm while working on finishing R9, not to mention getting a Warsong Belt when I could work on R9 version. The prices for event gems on my server are at least 40m+. However, I did look past getting a mdef belt and decided I could use the Paradise Sachet in the meantime.

    Refines also won't be permanent, axes would be the first choice to +10 when I have the money. I stopped everything at +7 because its the highest I'll be able to get without using orbs. We can assume I have all the said parts except the R9 components, and anything above that is beyond budget at this time.

    This set is a bit of patchwork, because I do have an interval set, but I don't plan to incorporate it fully into my PvP build, because my -int cape is the TM69 one, and upgrading it to a LG one is a waste, and I figured I could just use my wizard's DoT cape to burn down two orphanages with one match.

    I simply want to know which pieces would be better to get first, taking into account what I have atm.
  • SSCaster - Lost City
    SSCaster - Lost City Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    stealthxbomber wrote: »
    Perhaps I should have mentioned for those who lack common sense, this is not permanent end game gear. I could just post a full jade +12 R9 hurrdurr build, but what discussion is there in that? I'm trying to be realistic. This is just something I'll use to PK as I work towards finishing R9 and other permanent items, such as nirv helm+cape.

    SSCaster, putting primevals in temporary gear would probably be the worst thing I could do atm while working on finishing R9, not to mention getting a Warsong Belt when I could work on R9 version. The prices for event gems on my server are at least 40m+. However, I did look past getting a mdef belt and decided I could use the Paradise Sachet in the meantime.

    Refines also won't be permanent, axes would be the first choice to +10 when I have the money. I stopped everything at +7 because its the highest I'll be able to get without using orbs. We can assume I have all the said parts except the R9 components, and anything above that is beyond budget at this time.

    This set is a bit of patchwork, because I do have an interval set, but I don't plan to incorporate it fully into my PvP build, because my -int cape is the TM69 one, and upgrading it to a LG one is a waste, and I figured I could just use my wizard's DoT cape to burn down two orphanages with one match.

    I simply want to know which pieces would be better to get first, taking into account what I have atm.

    Lunar pants and Luanr Helm, both second cast NV, are NOT temporary gear. Both of them are end-game APS gear pieces.

    Upgrading from wraithgate to LG is a waste? Dude you get more stats for dmg purpose and also more vit for hp.




    Seriously, two holes you try to punch in my points and they are both idiotic....
  • stealthxbomber
    stealthxbomber Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    SSCaster - Lost City wrote: »
    Lunar pants and Luanr Helm, both second cast NV, are NOT temporary gear. Both of them are end-game APS gear pieces.

    Upgrading from wraithgate to LG is a waste? Dude you get more stats for dmg purpose and also more vit for hp.




    Seriously, two holes you try to punch in my points and they are both idiotic....

    In my previous post I stated I'd work on more permanent things such as Nirvana helm+cape. Those are end-game. Nirvana pants is farming gear, which I'm having no problems doing btw; another reason I don't need a LG cape. 40m for just 12 extra stat points is a waste, and putting any shards past grade 9 is an even bigger waste.

    Eventually I'll be putting end-game shards into Nirvana helm, but other things are more important atm.
  • USSRbm - Heavens Tear
    USSRbm - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Dont do anything halfway man


    http://pwcalc.com/bb8c602c241b4d6a


    ^.^
  • jabq
    jabq Posts: 821 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Try this out, not that hard to get,

    http://pwcalc.com/76bc67488361b800

    Since you already linked shoes and arm in different set, get them together.

    Try to improve it more with time,

    http://pwcalc.com/566ffc09045d660a

    Ultimately going to what USSRbm posted

    http://pwcalc.com/bb8c602c241b4d6a

    You asked for tw setup, not aps. Aps is totally different.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    jabq wrote: »
    Try this out, not that hard to get,

    http://pwcalc.com/76bc67488361b800

    Since you already linked shoes and arm in different set, get them together.

    Try to improve it more with time,

    http://pwcalc.com/566ffc09045d660a

    Ultimately going to what USSRbm posted

    http://pwcalc.com/bb8c602c241b4d6a

    You asked for tw setup, not aps. Aps is totally different.

    mismatched helm and cape brah

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