Is my pet selection good ?

darksynn wrote: »

I've decided to use the following pets

Tanking - Glacial Walker and a Shaodu Cub (as a back up tank)

Generally im really biased against Golem Pets. I wish i had tamed my Shadou Earlier and use it as my only tank , however , this is my opinion. I just advice not to level any of the walkers skills if you aim to get a herc.

Air - Cloud Skatefish with Bash

this or a Petite Sawfly (sawfly can be caught earlier). Both do their Job

Luring - Dark Wanderer with Bash until I can get a Kowlin as my lurer

Bash on a Wanderer is a good skill , however for DDing , it's better to just auto-attack with him cause he has a high attack speed. However you need it for gaining aggro. Also it's a good pet for Caster Nirvana later on. However i would suggest luring with your shadou Cub due to its more balanced defences. Your choice

DDing - Dark Wanderer (not sure what to replace it with later on)

Mine has Flesh Ream (i'll remove it soon) , Bash ( keeper) and Threaten (i'll keep it for now). Either keep it till endgame , or then replace it with Dino rare pet at lvl 101. Personally Wanderer is a favourite of mine. i was one of the few venos in Heaven Tear who used it back then.

Water pet - Whatever suits my level

Keep a Celestial/Asgard Plumpfish after lvl 80 , and just hatch it when you need a water quest.

Will eventually try to get a herc and nix when I can afford too.

Have fun

Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Leveling a glacial walker's default skills is a drop in the bucket compared to the price of a Hercules. (If you want to get technical, leveling icicle, roar, and tough to their max levels costs approximately 2% of the total cost of a Hercules).

Personally i believe that Walkers skills are fine just as they are. If you open your combos with no-high dmg skills you won't get aggro easily. Plus in squad , your pet nearly never has aggro , and if it needs it has roar.

I find walkers a waste , leveling their skills as well. better save the cash for the upgrade books for shards and your own skills .

Again i acknowledge the fact that im really biased against them . Sorry but i just can't help it.

My lvl 100 walker has icicle, tough, lightning and reflect, all lvl 5.
Between the 2 attacks doing 200% damage and the reflect damage he holds agro pretty well. I may change lightning to toxic mist tho so he can get better damage due to the increased wood damage from my scarab.
I've also tested flesh ream and it helps hold agro too.

I agree that herc would be even better but I can't afford one so I'm going the ghetto herc route.

Oh, and BacoNix (windwalking piggy) can be a decent cheap alternative to the nix but I guess you get what you pay for.

RE: leveling a glacial walker's skills...

Herc comes with maxed rare skills, way out performs GW, GW can't tank as much as Eldergoth Marksman, etc. How to be fail: believe that hercless veno is just fine.

Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote:

Kowlins and dark wanderers suck at luring. Get an eldergoth marksman or a celestial sting (at level 89) for luring.

^^ or ethereal inomorato.

Luring:

Eldergoth Marksman [41] is the best luring pet in PWI, all my 19 venos use it. b:cute

Born_Again_ - Sanctuary wrote: »

Luring:

Eldergoth Marksman [41] is the best luring pet in PWI, all my 19 venos use it. b:cute

The celestial sting and ethereal inamorato are both better at luring than a marksman. They have a longer attack range, and they run faster.

tweakz wrote: »

RE: leveling a glacial walker's skills...

Herc comes with maxed rare skills, way out performs GW, GW can't tank as much as Eldergoth Marksman, etc. How to be fail: believe that hercless veno is just fine.

Get real... an eldergoth is only better at tanking on ranged magic bosses. Anything else (archer, melee) a walker will perform better.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Get real... an eldergoth is only better at tanking on ranged magic bosses. Anything else (archer, melee) a walker will perform better.

Get real. A pet rock is pointless to level / invest in.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

For ordinary mobs, sure. Can an eldergoth handle Luminoc at 80-ish though?

Heal spam yes , but it's not easy at all , and Tough is needed . I have tried this with bear and i did it. So with Eldergoth at higher lvl i believe it is doable

As far as I know, archer bosses (Fugma, Fushma, Luminoc, Stygean... I think that's the complete list) get the archer damage reduction at close range.

When you are the assistance...?

Getting assistance is less trouble than leveling and upgrading a stupid rock.

Why are you even bothering playing a venomancer, if you can't be bothered to level a pet? "Venomancer" means "grind your *** off", more than any other class in PW, possibly in any MMORPG.

tweakz wrote: »

A boss you have to deal with one time? -Getting assistance is less trouble than leveling and upgrading a stupid rock.

Doesn't that apply to hercs to? It starts from level 1, several levels lower than that rockb:shutup

Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Even though i find obsolete , i cant help but disagree here.


A lvl 1 herc has better attack and defences + HP than several other pets of higher level. A herc is way better than a golem in every possible way.


I personally dont recommend venos to get hercs if they tend to play with friends (aka squad mode). Hercs nows are semi-useful soloing tools , however that doesnt means tha they don't worth leveling.


However if there is something that keeps PWI standing , that is the friendly relationships players make with others , and that's why some factions (while not TW or PK ) still stand together , even through other means (like forums , mine for example). Playing solo gets too boring and eventually makes you quit.

I've been advising so many venos before in the past not to level too fast as soon as they got a herc ticket either by packs or by buying the SoF's. They mostly quit at the end out of frustration leveling that thing. Yes it is a lot stronger than most tank pets in game but it still can't help you squat if it is 50+ levels below you. The 101 Hatchling is basically the best free pet nowadays but it's a gamble getting it.

I do agree with you on the point that if you are squad type player a herc is more of an option than a necessity. I was planning on getting one a few months back but after back to back x2's and level 100 is only a few levels away my days on relying fully on a herc is numbered. Most of the high level dungeons can't be soloed by venos. TT market is not as profitable as before. Hercs aren't that welcome in Nirvy except for some situations but I found other pets more reliable and safer to use than it (<3 my Goth on KFC and luring Vampy out from her foxies).

Playing solo always does not always make you quit but it drives some people delusional...just take a look at 99% of hi level sins

tweakz wrote: »

Come back when you're off the drugs for a good laugh at yourself.



What good is Sage Soul Degeneration if you have to wait for someone else to use it? How good is amp going to be if you have to spam heal your pet, or is Veno the slowest toon in the game that needs to follow the pack?

Your kindness and show of respect amuses me once again tweakzy

Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Sage what now? Sorry. I'm demon.

Sorry that's all you could come up with considering Demon veno should be even faster than sage. b:chuckle