I'm confused...

SoulInfernal - Archosaur
SoulInfernal - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
edited May 2012 in General Discussion
Why are a lot of people upset about the update? I don't know what the update did but I thought I'd ask.

Also: Mature answers please, this isn't a rage thread.
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  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Why are a lot of people upset about the update? I don't know what the update did but I thought I'd ask.

    Also: Mature answers please, this isn't a rage thread.

    This.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Simple answer -->

    The game was too easy. --> Update made some things "too hard." --> This makes people "need" to CS more to kill new bosses/etc. --> Caters to Higher Levels only --> Token prices too high. --> Something new to complain about. --> etc etc etc

    This is just too awesome b:laugh

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  • MrMelvin - Heavens Tear
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    It has made token prices rise so now buying Crabs (HP food) and Herbs (MP food) but I personally think this won't last long since the NPC won't be around forever and has also forced people to learn how to play the game. People have realised that now you can't just spark and slash at bosses to get things done, you actually have to work. Clearly people cannot handle this.
  • SoulInfernal - Archosaur
    SoulInfernal - Archosaur Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Well, I have to admit it's not just PWE with this problem, its all gaming companies if you play other games, like WolfTeam (mentioned it because its not a competing game, due to its being a different genre). Which WT has made CS'ing the only way possible to play the game. I suppose I'll play PWI until it starts to be CS heavy gameplay.
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    i personally think its because everyone, even the complainers have immersed themselves in CS luxury. And by CS luxury, i mean by anything related to the direct buying of items off of boutique or the leftovers sold to the public. All the things that have gone up in price are of that genre. Things that we dont actually need to play the game but makes it easier. Pple like easy.

    the instances arent too impossible. it just takes a bit of thinking and coordination and prep. We've been pampered too much with easy bosses that take at the most, an hour to figure out and kill, that we cant handle anything that takes longer than that. To those that play subscription games, they should know how long some new content bosses take to clear.

    fairybox was kinda stupid i have to agree on that. Hard to see the logic in it. Maybe im missing something.

    Bug fixes - pple just like to beat dead horses

    Weapon/gear upgrades - another dead horse beater. Not like most can get the highest upgrade anyway. They like to complain cause 10 pple getting R9+12 3rd recast on the whole of US server.... would be drastically unfair to them. /facepalm
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  • EtherbIade - Harshlands
    EtherbIade - Harshlands Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    For tokens its suppose to be temporary.
    For the rest, well people are never happy, they was QQing that the game is too easy, PWI make challenge and make boss harder than now people QQ its to hard.
    Always gonna be people happy and unhappy about everything.
    To be honest for me personally its too soon to say really if i love it or not.
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  • Yusiong - Lost City
    Yusiong - Lost City Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I personally like this update. The bosses are really awesome and its nice to have finally gotten a new challenge in game. but people are always gonna complain when they actually have to work to get something. but you know I bet PWE could give everyone full r9 for free and there would still be a bunch of people QQing about it.
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  • RyuTiger - Raging Tide
    RyuTiger - Raging Tide Posts: 308 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I personally like this update. The bosses are really awesome and its nice to have finally gotten a new challenge in game. but people are always gonna complain when they actually have to work to get something. but you know I bet PWE could give everyone full r9 for free and there would still be a bunch of people QQing about it.

    Then it means you dont have a problem that tokens are 35k each, BH will be super hard, gear expensive, i been 10 min ago in new dungeon and a barb with 28k HP was 1 shot by the boss, at warsong sin's are 1 shot now that i had to reset 5 times the boss and they were all 3 sins R9 ones. Wow good 4u!
  • Tremblewith - Heavens Tear
    Tremblewith - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I personally like this update. The bosses are really awesome and its nice to have finally gotten a new challenge in game. but people are always gonna complain when they actually have to work to get something. but you know I bet PWE could give everyone full r9 for free and there would still be a bunch of people QQing about it.

    There's a difference between working for something that is obtainable... And working for something that can only be obtained by merchanting 24/7/365 or cash shopping.

    What's even more comical, if the player doesn't do one of the two things above - they can't even do BH now, 'cause they changed up the bosses for BH and made them harder. The average gear player doesn't have 20k HP.
  • Toliman - Raging Tide
    Toliman - Raging Tide Posts: 1,595 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I myself not see something different in game for me.

    I can trash Fairy Box Keys once per day.

    My characters below level 80 and they can't use new NPC or new instances.


    They not use Tokens every other day, so I can play even now if I will want to do it.
  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Why are a lot of people upset about the update? I don't know what the update did but I thought I'd ask.

    Also: Mature answers please, this isn't a rage thread.

    Most people aren't upset, it's just that only the upset people that take the time to come and post on the forums about how they're upset. All the people who liked the update are most likely playing the game instead of posting how they like the update. It's just like the news, only the people who complain get the headlines.

    I personally think that since the EG update I've seen PWI actually trying to improve the game from the sad state the TB devs had brought it down to. They've actually added gear that can be farmed (even if hard to, but so what? TT99 was considered amazingly hard to farm back in the day, so was lunar). They've added a new area with quests that are actually worthwhile to complete. Hell even the storyline was better than the old quests of "Kill 40 xxxxxxx because I don't like them blah blah blah."

    In the end, people will always complain about something.

    BTW, this is all coming from a guy who has quit before because of the direction this game had taken, but you know, after sampling much of the F2P market, PWI still comes out near the top. I don't understand why people continuously compare P2P games to PWI. Guess what, YEAH subscription based games will almost always be more balanced than F2P. If you want that, go pay a subscription. If you're too poor or lazy to pay, then accept the fact that you're going to have a lesser quality game.

    The classic situation of you get what you paid for.


    EDIT: I'm not saying to not push the devs to always improve their game (like they should), but stop ******** everytime they do anything. If we complain even when they try to improve something, then they're just going to stop trying to please at all. (Honestly I've think this has already happened somewhat.)
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Then it means you dont have a problem that tokens are 35k each, BH will be super hard, gear expensive, i been 10 min ago in new dungeon and a barb with 28k HP was 1 shot by the boss, at warsong sin's are 1 shot now that i had to reset 5 times the boss and they were all 3 sins R9 ones. Wow good 4u!
    it wont stay 35k

    BH super hard blah blah one shot blah blah. Is this the first MMO you played? If so lemme tell you that alot of other MMOs have 1 shot bosses too. What happens then is..... pple learn to strategize and prep, and not just jump in auto attack with minimal meds.

    Why are pple so surprised that pwi added a boss that is actually HARDER?
    is there some sort of rule that state F2P games must release bosses that must be killable within the first 1hr of expansion release? Some pple prolly arent even aware how long it took for the first harpy wraith to be killed since its 'release'
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Well I know one good thing came out of all this mess...
    We will inevitably see much less of "TY BH for [Ecstasy Card] b:victory" on WC.