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I'm sure there's already some thread with some twit ranting and raging about it, but I didn't feel like digging and digging, so I'mma post a new thread anyways. Let's see, where to start. Well, as we are all aware the devs took out the fairy boxes from TT solo some time ago, which would yeild mirages. I USED to make some decent money this way, then the devs/ gms or whoever the hell is in charge decided "NO! YOU WON'T BE SPENDING ALL DAY DOING THAT!" and removed em. THAT, and the fact that the main major factions had aquired their guild base made the price of ultimate subs drop as well. I USED to be able to sell those also for about 30~45k each, now they sell 5~10k each, MAYBE more depending on the buyer. So that rid of my two main methods of making coin in the game aside from selling gold. I DO in fact buy and sell gold from time to time, but I can't buy gold too often because of rl costs. NOW that my other 2 methods of coin gain were stripped away, I've had to look elseware to afford my gears and other things. I'd taken up grinding, however the repairs and potion costs would hinder it just the same as if I had run TT, but with less payout. Because of this, it felt like a "nerffed" run so to speak. I went to start farming herbs in heaven/hell and found it pays rather well compaird to grinding, and with less costs, however it's rather boring and still displeasing to make only 1.3m every 2 days of constant herb farming. Each weekend I make an additional 3~5.5m on selling potions IF they sell. This still feels small compaird to the mirage/sub farming I used to do. Lately for the past month or so I've not been able to buy gold at all and had to rely entirely on herbs to make a profit. Only made about 16m over the past month since my potions dont sell except on TW weekends and for whatever reason people buy from other catshops more often despite the fact I'm selling lower. At this rate, It'll take me over a year to farm for full r9 and I'm running out of patience with this. I've played this game for a lil over a year now and my psy is only lv94. The reason I'm still 94 is because lately there are too many frostbabies who cant run a decent frost. I'm talkin about wannabe DD clerics, Tanks who run away, sins who dont watch their hp and die far too often, Wizards who try to play the healer, venos who don't make use of their pets even when they have a herc, and idiots who say that psys are totaly useless, because apparently we psys are "rejected" in squads. On top of that, I'm not a fan of buying bigroom. So yeah....still 94... after all this freaking time. Anyways, point being it looks like any EFFECTIVE farming method is cut out by the devs in an attempt to say "**** you for farming well, we'll force you to have to buy gold now in order to make progress." I can't afford to put in as much gold like these r9 players you see wandering about. I HAVE to do some farming. DOES ANYONE have another way I could farm? I don't care what it is, so long as it works. I currently alternate between farming herbs in hell, and grinding spiders up north to make it less boring, however it's still to repetative. Any other farming methods for a 94 psy would be super. *Aslo, dont even bring up rolling a veno, I've spent far too much time, effort, and money on my psy to start another character right now.*
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Firstly, paragraphs are your friend.
Secondly, have you considered running the Cube of Fate? If you can make it to Room 50, you can make at least 500k (or more depending on the price of Pages of Fate on your server and if you sell the coin boxes) daily.
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you cant make 500k per run doing cube unless you are very lucky and dont get the rooms that cost you money, do alls and dont forget the price of the dice you have to use for each run
if ya get really lucky and get the and get one of the 2 cards then yup you can make a profit
Saying you make 500k per cube run is like the people that go to casinos and say they won a $500 jackpot....but they dont mention they had $1000 when they walked in the door so they actually lost 500 bucks :PBarbarian(Barber)=104
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What the poster above said, cube, sell the pages and any boxes you get while going through it. On a plus, should net you some nice xp also. You can get do-alls free with DQ points and chips to turn into dice tickets. No cost put out, finish = profit.
Another easy way to make a lil xtra coin (and have something different to do) everytime you see a wc saying free wines for bh blah blah, go join even if u dont have it. If luck is with you, maybe u can get decent drops ect.
Lately ive only been farming about 2 hrs a week and make about 20-35mill. Not alot, but considering i havent put much effort into it i cant complain. Just find a niche in the market that everyone needs, and try to fill that niche.
(Btw, subs have become so cheap because theres an over abundance of them + easy to get because you can trade your nirva tailsman for them, so demand for them is close to nil.)0 -
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Barber - Heavens Tear wrote: »you cant make 500k per run doing cube unless you are very lucky and dont get the rooms that cost you money, do alls and dont forget the price of the dice you have to use for each run
if ya get really lucky and get the and get one of the 2 cards then yup you can make a profit
Saying you make 500k per cube run is like the people that go to casinos and say they won a $500 jackpot....but they dont mention they had $1000 when they walked in the door so they actually lost 500 bucks :P
Lets see...
-1x PoF is easily sold for 550k atm (sold a few at this price earlier)
-2x Gold Boxes can be sold to buyers for 110-115k currently (so you gain 10-15k if you dont open them). Also, Platinum Boxes can be sold for 220-250k or so if you get one.
-Do Alls can be obtained from DQ rewards. If this player's grinding DQ in their spare time, they can get a few that way.
-Chip packs are pretty cheap.
Sure, luck can influence how much you make, but on an average, thats how much I usually come out with...(not including multiple do overs because of PK)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Remember: OP may be a duck|OP/GMs/Devs may not deliver|Search function is your friend|Lurk more|Be wary of Mods: they can't be trusted|This place isn't a hugbox|Your tears sustain me|Know what Bait is|"Soon" may never come|Postcount, Dubs, and other GETs are important|Don't revive long dead threads|There is a section for everything|You can be banned for anything|No Fun Allowed outside of OT|Sweetiebot rules OT|"Circlejerks" are inevitable|Threads can be derailed and saved|Those who use"XD" should off themselves at their earliest convenience|0 -
Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lets see...
-2x Gold Boxes can be sold to buyers for 110-115k currently (so you gain 10-15k if you dont open them). Also, Golden Boxes can be sold for 220-250k or so if you get one.
Re-read your comment and then hit yourself. You bring up golden boxes TWICE in the same sentance then give 2 different answers about profit from them... *facepalm*
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Completely agree that solo mode TT needs to at least drop regular mirages again, if not boxes. I can understand they don't want farming to be as profitable as buying gold from a business sense, but a mirage is worth less than a cent. 4-5c boxes are hardly going to cut profits. And a variety of methods to farm keeps people interested a lot longer. I used to enjoy solo TT's every so often.
Anyway, the best way to earn quick money is to hit lv100 and go run BH 100. Buy some hypers, plunge into the dreaded FCC, bear the fail runs, and hit 100. Doesn't even have to be your main. I even have two bm's just to run BH more, wanted to go demon so simply rolled a new character. Along with BH rewards you also stock up on warsong emblems, medals, essences, delta coin, tear of heaven, and drops. And 5-10 mirage or subs a day which is another +55-110k.
On top of that, OHT dailies aren't bad. 4 Tear of Heaven a day, stock up for a while, make bracers, sell the channelling or -int ones and purified stones and decomp rest for perfect stone.
Round it off with an odd half hour or hour of herb farming when you're in the mood. Overall you spend an hour or two a day and make a nice chunk of coin long term.
From there, you can work on improving your gear, and eventually start up on squad mode TT and Nirvana. Now wait a second, Nirvana requires uber +10 cashshopping and elite merchant skills, right?
....Wrong. Can confirm from personal experience that a few months playing the game as above with maybe an odd $10 zen here and there, that vana and such comes naturally.
Now from there to getting full R9, I'm not sure yet. But the most important thing is giving it a try. Once you complain and quit, you end up earning nothing.0 -
Re-read your comment and then hit yourself. You bring up golden boxes TWICE in the same sentance then give 2 different answers about profit from them... *facepalm*
Don't reply to a thread when you can't even make a valid point. ty.b:thanks
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Barber - Heavens Tear wrote: »you cant make 500k per run doing cube unless you are very lucky and dont get the rooms that cost you money, do alls and dont forget the price of the dice you have to use for each run
if ya get really lucky and get the and get one of the 2 cards then yup you can make a profit
Saying you make 500k per cube run is like the people that go to casinos and say they won a $500 jackpot....but they dont mention they had $1000 when they walked in the door so they actually lost 500 bucks :P
Don't pay for do-alls, sell your boxes, and if you get to a robber room, sell your cards and start over. I very rarely lose money in the cube. It's not like the casino at all, really.
Also Endless Universe gives 20 mirages a day pretty much, and sometimes it gives old book pages as well. Sure you could also wind up with the armor and weapons. But if you don't have them, they are at the very least pretty to look at. In fact, I wish more people ran it so that the cost of running it in teles wasn't quite as high. Combine that with the BH 2 mirages, and you're looking at like 30 mirages a day. Sometimes more. Thats almost as much as when solo mode TT was available, and less work.
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Barber - Heavens Tear wrote: »you cant make 500k per run doing cube unless you are very lucky and dont get the rooms that cost you money, do alls and dont forget the price of the dice you have to use for each run
if ya get really lucky and get the and get one of the 2 cards then yup you can make a profit
Saying you make 500k per cube run is like the people that go to casinos and say they won a $500 jackpot....but they dont mention they had $1000 when they walked in the door so they actually lost 500 bucks :P
Sell the boxes to a catshop, guaranteed 105k (I don't have the patience to sell them myself, and the buy/sellers in cube buy for 105k).
Page of Fate: 450k if you want your money directly (again, buy/sellers in cube), alot more if you search for deals yourself
Costs: Dice, 100 if you get really unlucky
Costs: 2 per mysterios chip. Exactly how much do those cost again? Yup, that's 500 coins per dice card. So let's take uber bad luck and they cost you a grand total of 50k. (like that's ever going to happen. Also you get chips inside the cube, and as ubercrappy reward from BH100, cutting the cost)
Do alls: I usually have atleast 10 per run, some runs I get unlucky and have to use some, which is anything between 1-10 (10 if you get extremely unlucky again, and get both PK rooms, and the robber and bully room)
Costs: 28 Tokens of luck = (28*12k=300k) So yea, if you get extremely unlucky, you might lose money here. That is, if you don't use your DQ points (abit of farming and you have enough Do alls), don't bring extra robbers and bullys (have a bank char in cube room 1 and give him any unused cards, or just buy some in room 1).
Also if you don't mind the time you can port back from robber/bully room, and than once you're done with the run, sell the unused cards for an extra 70-90k
Total profit with extreme bad luck (only page of fate, max costs) = 100k coins.
Profit if you actually know what you are doing: an easy 400-500k, can go up to 700k if you get lucky and get a platinum box (sell for 250k, making instand 150k profit), and get a good deal for your page of fate.
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Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »Firstly, paragraphs are your friend.
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You have also all the events during the week:
Tiger event: You can get great rewards that you can use or sell, its not long its around 20-25 minutes, if you was lvl 100+ you could get a nice reward from bh guy too.
Ill skip jungle event cause at lvl 94 the bh guy reward is one perfect stone so unless you want event gold dont worth it. (At lvl 100+ the bh guy give u a random reward similar to bh rewards, mirages, chips, extacy cards etc.)
Same for Coa at ur lvl i dont think it worth to do it. (Still the bh reward but at lvl 94 dont worth it as a lvl 100+)
Tournement: Some weeks you gonna be lucky and do many room som weeks you might be unlucky and die at the first or second one, but with the rewards you got in each room you can get PoF and sell them, again its not a super long event.
When they do event like Friday assault you can make easy few millions and that give you DQ points.
So all these's event are not really long (around 25 minutes each) and can give a lot of money.
At lvl 100 there's a lot more stuff to make money, like nirvana, bh100 give a random reward its not exp like they other bh (it can be 55 mirages, chips, exp orb, extacy card x2 or excitement card (5m).
So the advice i can give you is try to lvl 100 ASAP, yes there's a bunch of idiots in FC, but its not long to lvl 94-100 and at lvl 100 as psy you will find easy squad for caster nirvana (and in 2x its gonna be the best thing to farm for you).
And personnally ill say that you seam play your psy since a long time, so you prolly know your class by the time so even if you buy some FC exp room to lvl its not a big deal, you know you class.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kremia - Lost City wrote: »No way im going to read all that o.o
so i'll just say: Yes, youre right
lol no need read all, the guy is psy lvl 94 and what a way to make money, i basicly just say that in the weekly event (tiger, jungle, coa etc) its possible make fast money, if lucky in tiger pack and in bh guy reward for lvl 100+.
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VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: ».....and you're looking at like 30 mirages a day. Sometimes more. Thats almost as much as when solo mode TT was available, and less work.
Just a slight disagreement to this statement. With solo tt you could get a hundred mirages in a few hours not 30 a day.
I realize there is the problem of opening them but I used to do solo made on 'free' pick up and bring along a different alt to pick up the mirages. This is obviously why it was stopped, but I didnt cash shop then and I dont now.
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MageMERC - Harshlands wrote: »Just a slight disagreement to this statement. With solo tt you could get a hundred mirages in a few hours not 30 a day.
I realize there is the problem of opening them but I used to do solo made on 'free' pick up and bring along a different alt to pick up the mirages. This is obviously why it was stopped, but I didnt cash shop then and I dont now.
I agree with the OP, solo mode tt was the bomb.
Eh, you could only open 36. And IDK if he has an alt to drag around. Though yes, if you did, that solo mode TT was certainly the bomb. Still, considering the amount of effort EU requires when people know what they are doing and you get free gear that should be enough to beat it before you step foot. I'd say that it's not too bad. But I see your point there. Although, I suppose the same could be said of level 100 alts and EU. It seriously takes only 15-20 minutes if you get a fast squad.
edit: And I ain't saying it wasn't the bomb, I just saying that just cause it's gone don't mean that there is no longer anyway to make money.
edit 2: And I don't know why people are encouraging someone with no money, and no knowledge of how to get that money to powerlevel. I've always said that if you don't have the coin/gear to get into squads at 100, there is little point in power-leveling to it. Yeah, it's easy to make money to 100. But only if you have the gear to do 100+ things. Besides that, its just annoying in squads when people aren't geared in at least level appropriate things. I'm not talking the best of the best. But just, things for your level.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AHHHH MY EYES!!!!!! b:shocked
but anywho. if leveling up is your problem make friends with a seeker and duo PV. with 12x hypers on its more xp than FCC.
The coin issue i understand your gripe. Its tuff. I wish I had a secret to tell you but I dont. My method of coin making is all about right place right time. Find a catshop underselling something useful and exploit it. Ive made millions doing this. I do lose sometimes tho. But Id say about 75% of the time I make coin.
One of my best scores was buying 1k stacks of pakua stones for 600k and reselling them on ah for 2.5mil. Did that from the same catshop about 10 times.0 -
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When we had Fairy Boxes, we get hardcore farmers complaining that they need to wait 6 months to finish opening all of their Fairy Boxes. When we don't have them, we have people complaining that there's no means of income.
Getting to 100 is actually a pretty good thing in terms of coins. Even with crappy gear, you still gain access to BH100, which has an average yielding of like 700,000 coins/day. Add to that Cube and you're looking at 1,000,000 per day. Do that for a month and you should have enough to start low-key merchanting. Problem solved.I am Olba. Not Ol, not Baze nor Blaze. And even less would I go by Olblaze. Please, take a second to read a person's username.
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Euthymius - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lets see...
-1x PoF is easily sold for 550k atm (sold a few at this price earlier)
-2x Gold Boxes can be sold to buyers for 110-115k currently (so you gain 10-15k if you dont open them). Also, Platinum Boxes can be sold for 220-250k or so if you get one.
-Do Alls can be obtained from DQ rewards. If this player's grinding DQ in their spare time, they can get a few that way.
-Chip packs are pretty cheap.
Sure, luck can influence how much you make, but on an average, thats how much I usually come out with...(not including multiple do overs because of PK)Re-read your comment and then hit yourself. You bring up golden boxes TWICE in the same sentance then give 2 different answers about profit from them... *facepalm*
Don't reply to a thread when you can't even make a valid point. ty.b:thanks
You might try some reading comprehension yourself. 110-115k if you sell a golden box (cost in cube: 100k) to a catshop, 220-250k if you sell a platinum box (cost: 200k) to a catshop. And you can make more selling either in your own catshop. (I've been selling goldens for 190k, platinums for 550k, though I might drop that a bit.)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »Yeah, it's easy to make money to 100. But only if you have the gear to do 100+ things..
Depend on server maybe, cause im not R8 on one of my char with only TT90 gears and dont have problem to find squad for stuff and many peole are stupid (well on HL) and just check the weapon, so he can get R8 weap and have **** gears people will take him just for the weap. (i even see people with mold 59-77 as gears taked in squads, when its not fot TW people are no as exigent for bh squad or w/e and on my server i never saw someone kick a psy for gears out of squad or other class and trust me sometime some have really **** gears)
Ill just suggest him to dont farm the weapon TT99 farm directly money for R8.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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1. Nice wall-of-text. Learn to punctuate and use paragraphs if you want people to actally read what you're QQ'ing.I'm sure there's already some thread with some twit ranting and raging about it, but I didn't feel like digging and digging, so I'mma post a new thread anyways. Let's see, where to start. Well, as we are all aware the devs took out the fairy boxes from TT solo some time ago, which would yeild mirages. I USED to make some decent money this way, then the devs/ gms or whoever the hell is in charge decided "NO! YOU WON'T BE SPENDING ALL DAY DOING THAT!" and removed em. THAT, and the fact that the main major factions had aquired their guild base made the price of ultimate subs drop as well. I USED to be able to sell those also for about 30~45k each, now they sell 5~10k each, MAYBE more depending on the buyer...blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah blah blah blah Blah BlaH blAh blaH bLah BlAh. Blah blah BLah blAh, bleh blah Blah Blah
2. Removing the fairy boxes from TT had nothing to do with the price of u-subs dropping. Neither did faction bases or trials. The price of subs was the same before we got bases as it was after we got bases. Later the prices plummeted because there are now SO many ways that you can get subs that the market is flooded with them. On top of that demand is down because the vast majority of hyper noobs just do fcc and vana, and don't bother with TT runs unless maybe it's 2x drops, and then the mat market gets flooded, and you'll QQ about the prices of mats and not making any money there.
(BTW, the boxes were removed because it was having a negative impact on the in-game economy.)
3. Making coin is easy, and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort. You just need to start with a little seed and develop some good merchanting skills. I made 25m last night just from trading items in my catshop, and I didn't even have to be awake to do it.
4. If it takes you a year to farm your R9, at least you'll have some experience when you do have it and won't get ganked as badly as the hyper noobs are right now. It's funny watching a cleric with standard R8 drop someone with R9+10 ect., just because they don't know how to play their class.
I average 5-800k per cube run and that's counting the cost to do the run. Plus it's nice exp/spirit for doing the run.doesn't take long, and even as a "squishy" cleric, I rarely get PK'ed in the cube. (which comes mostly from knowing how to handle your class in a battle and having good reflexes.)Barber - Heavens Tear wrote: »you cant make 500k per run doing cube unless you are very lucky and dont get the rooms that cost you money, do alls and dont forget the price of the dice you have to use for each run
if ya get really lucky and get the and get one of the 2 cards then yup you can make a profit
Saying you make 500k per cube run is like the people that go to casinos and say they won a $500 jackpot....but they dont mention they had $1000 when they walked in the door so they actually lost 500 bucks :P
If I have a bad run I may only make 200k or so, but that's still making money. Its extremely rare for me to complete a run and not make money back from seeling the boxes and such.
Yes, start your own squads, and don't run with the noobs that think a weapon makes a character. I've seen tons of goobers with uber gear only sit and fail because they don't have a clue about how to do anything except auto-attack. (Gee I wonder where these people come from?)Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »Depend on server maybe, cause im not R8 on one of my char with only TT90 gears and dont have problem to find squad for stuff and many peole are stupid (well on HL) and just check the weapon, so he can get R8 weap and have **** gears people will take him just for the weap. (i even see people with mold 59-77 as gears taked in squads, when its not fot TW people are no as exigent for bh squad or w/e and on my server i never saw someone kick a psy for gears out of squad or other class and trust me sometime some have really **** gears)
Ill just suggest him to dont farm the weapon TT99 farm directly money for R8.
The real point is, you can do it, if you set your mind to it, and making coin is not terribly hard. QQ'ing because you're too lazy/stupid/just plain ignorant is a waste of good forum space. I'm supporting a 100 Cleric, a 94 Veno, a 91 Seeker, a 90 Barb, a couple of Psy's in the 70's, a Wizard in the 60's, and I've got a couple of other toons in the 30-60 ranges that I am tinkering around with.
All of my toons have pretty decent gear for their levels, and guess what, I don't cash shop. I don't waste oodles of time doing boring farming runs. I play to play, and when I'm not playing, my catshop makes the coin.
Edit: HAHAHAAA I just looked at your Core profile, nev12kg. I can see a number of reasons there that would cause you to be an unhappy player as well.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
pointless post b:cool
dont make a thread named hard times and dont expect me to say somethingb:scorn0 -
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HardTimes - Lost City wrote: »pointless post b:cool
dont make a thread named hard times and dont expect me to say somethingb:scorn
Actually thats the main reason i saw this post, thought someone was qqing about you, but so much text so i dint even read it[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
prices of subs dropped due to bh talisman reward.So many subs around now,and yes its suck that they are now liek 13k each,should be more since they are a major MAJOR part of the crafting of tt armor,subs are just as good as the other mats required.This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.0 -
Hey, SylenThunder, how about you go **** youself. Seriously, just because I said some things were removed and others had their prices drop doesn't exactly mean it's *QQin*. Also, I was asking for other methods of farming to ADD to my current ones so I wouldn't get so bored as fast. JUST because I asked for opinions does NOT mean I'm "lazy or stupid" as you said, it's called getting a lil bit of outside advice to make sure I'm on the right path...
Also, I KNOW it will take a ton of time to farm r9, but don't sit there and act like I'm not experienced. I've played for a few years actually, I've just not relied entirely on frost to lv like the rest of you babies and in fact have not been too concerned with it until recent. Despite being a 9x I've killed my fair share of idiot nab aps r9 failures here.
Now try not to be such an ****. tyb:bye0 -
i can make coin without really trying for like ..lets see for umm,lets jsut say 3-4 months and would have the coin for r9..and thats mainly jsut off getting lucky on xtc and excitement and petty shop sales on my store.
But if i can stop freakin buying fash!!!This game is like washing hair with shampoo... Rinse and repeat if desired.
Proud owner of many mains.101 bm,101 seeker,101 demon sin,100 sage sin,101 archer,101 barb,100 cleric,100 wiz( first toon since sept 08 finally made it in 2013)newly added mystic 100 HA,72 psy.0 -
u can also press ''O''.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Hey, SylenThunder, how about you go **** youself. Seriously, just because I said some things were removed and others had their prices drop doesn't exactly mean it's *QQin*. Also, I was asking for other methods of farming to ADD to my current ones so I wouldn't get so bored as fast. JUST because I asked for opinions does NOT mean I'm "lazy or stupid" as you said, it's called getting a lil bit of outside advice to make sure I'm on the right path...
Also, I KNOW it will take a ton of time to farm r9, but don't sit there and act like I'm not experienced. I've played for a few years actually, I've just not relied entirely on frost to lv like the rest of you babies and in fact have not been too concerned with it until recent. Despite being a 9x I've killed my fair share of idiot nab aps r9 failures here.
Now try not to be such an ****. tyb:bye
I didn't see where you asked for opinions, I just saw a huge mass of QQ text. That's likely because you failed at making your post legitimately readable.
Your wall of text is quite simply that. Actually reading it in a comprehensible manner would require pulling it apart and re-formatting it so that my eyes don't get screwey and glaze over halfway through.
Here, let me waste some of my time and fix it for you.....I'm sure there's already some thread with some twit ranting and raging about it, but I didn't feel like digging and digging, so I'm going to post a new thread anyways.
Let's see, where to start...
Well, as we are all aware the devs took out the fairy boxes from TT solo some time ago, which would yield mirages. I USED to make some decent money this way, then the devs/ gms or whoever the hell is in charge decided "NO! YOU WON'T BE SPENDING ALL DAY DOING THAT!" and removed them.
THAT, and the fact that the main major factions had acquired their guild base made the price of ultimate subs drop as well. I USED to be able to sell those also for about 30~45k each, now they sell 5~10k each, MAYBE more depending on the buyer.
So that rid of my two main methods of making coin in the game aside from selling gold. I DO in fact buy and sell gold from time to time, but I can't buy gold too often because of rl costs. NOW that my other 2 methods of coin gain were stripped away, I've had to look elsewhere to afford my gears and other things.
I'd taken up grinding, however the repairs and potion costs would hinder it just the same as if I had run TT, but with less payout. Because of this, it felt like a "nerfed" run so to speak. I went to start farming herbs in heaven/hell and found it pays rather well compared to grinding, and with less costs, however it's rather boring and still displeasing to make only 1.3m every 2 days of constant herb farming. Each weekend I can make an additional 3~5.5m on selling potions, IF they sell.
This still feels small compared to the mirage/sub farming I used to do. Lately for the past month or so I've not been able to buy gold at all and had to rely entirely on herbs to make a profit. Only made about 16m over the past month since my potions don't sell except on TW weekends, and for whatever reason people buy from other catshops more often despite the fact I'm selling lower.
At this rate, it'll take me over a year to farm for full r9 and I'm running out of patience with this. I've played this game for a little over a year now and my psy is only lv94. The reason I'm still 94 is because lately there are too many frostbabies who can't run a decent frost. I'm talking about wannabe DD clerics, Tanks who run away, sins who don't watch their hp and die far too often, Wizards who try to play the healer, venos who don't make use of their pets even when they have a herc, and idiots who say that psys are totally useless, because apparently we psys are "rejected" in squads.
On top of that, I'm not a fan of buying bigroom. So yeah....still 94... after all this freaking time. Anyways, point being it looks like any EFFECTIVE farming method is cut out by the devs in an attempt to say "**** you for farming well, we'll force you to have to buy gold now in order to make progress." I can't afford to put in as much gold like these r9 players you see wandering about.
I HAVE to do some farming. DOES ANYONE have another way I could farm? I don't care what it is, so long as it works. I currently alternate between farming herbs in hell, and grinding spiders up north to make it less boring, however it's still to repetitive. Any other farming methods for a 94 psy would be super.
*Also, don't even bring up rolling a veno, I've spent far too much time, effort, and money on my psy to start another character right now.*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Now that I've wasted my time making your post legible like you should have the first time you posted it, lets review it again...
Now that I've finally found your question, Farm TT. It doesn't pay as much as it used to, but it is still probably the best location to make money farming. Personally though, find a good market and merchant. Then you can spend your time online actually enjoying your character and leveling.I'm sure there's already some thread with some twit ranting and raging about it, but I didn't feel like digging and digging, so I'm going to post a new thread anyways.
Let's see, where to start...
Well, as we are all aware the devs took out the fairy boxes from TT solo some time ago, which would yield mirages. I USED to make some decent money this way, then the devs/ gms or whoever the hell is in charge decided "NO! YOU WON'T BE SPENDING ALL DAY DOING THAT!" and removed them.
~As I said before, these were removed because they were harming the in-game economy. Primaily on the China servers, which is where we get all of our updates from. Same reason we got screwed on DQ prices ages ago and they raised the cost of tiems from NPC's. Just wait until they decide that we really are too R9 happy and start removing ways to achieve/farm that. (It's coming, you know it is.)
THAT, and the fact that the main major factions had acquired their guild base made the price of ultimate subs drop as well. I USED to be able to sell those also for about 30~45k each, now they sell 5~10k each, MAYBE more depending on the buyer.
So that rid of my two main methods of making coin in the game aside from selling gold. I DO in fact buy and sell gold from time to time, but I can't buy gold too often because of rl costs. NOW that my other 2 methods of coin gain were stripped away, I've had to look elsewhere to afford my gears and other things.
~I also covered this previously. Sub prices dropping had nothing to do with the bases. If you paid attention, you would have noticed that even though it was one of the main ingredients, the prices did not skyrocket, or even rise a little when we got bases and factions started farming for them. It has to do with the fact that they are now part of the reward from the daily BH, so there's now a lot of essentially free subs being introduced into the market. There is less demand with more and more hyper-noobs that don't have a clue about how to play not doing the runs because they're idiots. (Basically because they don't know how to do it, die in the process and give up because they are complete failures. Which is mostly why the rest of the game sucks so much lately.)
I'd taken up grinding, however the repairs and potion costs would hinder it just the same as if I had run TT, but with less payout. Because of this, it felt like a "nerfed" run so to speak. I went to start farming herbs in heaven/hell and found it pays rather well compared to grinding, and with less costs, however it's rather boring and still displeasing to make only 1.3m every 2 days of constant herb farming. Each weekend I can make an additional 3~5.5m on selling potions, IF they sell.
This still feels small compared to the mirage/sub farming I used to do. Lately for the past month or so I've not been able to buy gold at all and had to rely entirely on herbs to make a profit. Only made about 16m over the past month since my potions don't sell except on TW weekends, and for whatever reason people buy from other catshops more often despite the fact I'm selling lower.
~It happens. maybe you should find a different market. I mostly buy low and resell, or I'll make book clips.
At this rate, it'll take me over a year to farm for full r9 and I'm running out of patience with this. I've played this game for a little over a year now and my psy is only lv94. The reason I'm still 94 is because lately there are too many frostbabies who can't run a decent frost. I'm talking about wannabe DD clerics, Tanks who run away, sins who don't watch their hp and die far too often, Wizards who try to play the healer, venos who don't make use of their pets even when they have a herc, and idiots who say that psys are totally useless, because apparently we psys are "rejected" in squads.
On top of that, I'm not a fan of buying bigroom. So yeah....still 94... after all this freaking time. Anyways, point being it looks like any EFFECTIVE farming method is cut out by the devs in an attempt to say "**** you for farming well, we'll force you to have to buy gold now in order to make progress." I can't afford to put in as much gold like these R9 players you see wandering about.
~1. Don't listen to the idiots. I'll take a good Psy on any run over a sin or fail BM/archer.
~2. Start your own frost runs. Bring in friends and faction members that you know can actually play their characters. (It helps to not go faction hopping though.)
~3. the reason you're still 94 after a year is because you're not putting effort into other ways to level. Maybe you're skipping on BH's because you're too busy wasting time looking for FCC runs. I don't know, I don't play your character. I can tell you that I have this character at 100, 3 others in the 90's, two in the 70's, and a platoon of toons in the 40-60's range. The only one that I hyper leveled was my seeker, and that was just to get him from 60 to 80 because that level range is so damn boring.
I HAVE to do some farming. DOES ANYONE have another way I could farm? I don't care what it is, so long as it works. I currently alternate between farming herbs in hell, and grinding spiders up north to make it less boring, however it's still to repetitive. Any other farming methods for a 94 psy would be super.
~You don't HAVE to farm. There's plenty of other/better ways to make money in-game. Merchanting is one of the primary ones. Start small and work your way up. Warren has a good guide on that hanging around somewhere. I used it, and it's working great. (I just forget and spend my profits sometimes and have to start over. =P)
*Also, don't even bring up rolling a veno, I've spent far too much time, effort, and money on my psy to start another character right now.*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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