which wiz skills to max out for tt/bh/fc runs?
i'm a lvl 70 wiz and was wondering which skills should i work on maxing out first inorder to play my role properly in tt/bh/fc runs? so far i've maxed pyrogram,gush,stone barrier and got 1.6mill spirit leftover so wanted some advice on where to spend it 
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stone rain, will of nix, FoW, dragon's breathe for FC, frostblade but no one will notice.0
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Max out mountain sieze and blade tempest in that order for frost. Keep a Cloud Eruption genie along with Holy Path and frenzy and keep stone barrier on for frost.0
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what about in twilight temple runs?0
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Just max all the offensive skills as much as you can, work on the Lvl 59 ones later if you wanna do PvP. Same with Force of Will. You're never going to use it in active PvE because it just pisses the melee classes off. Also avoid Emberstorm, hailstorm, pitfall, and crown of flame until endgame."I would say that the worst band ever, Black Eyed Peas, played at the 2011 Superbowl, but I couldn't possibly take that title away from Nickelback"
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AsimM - Raging Tide wrote: »Just max all the offensive skills as much as you can, work on the Lvl 59 ones later if you wanna do PvP. Same with Force of Will. You're never going to use it in active PvE because it just pisses the melee classes off. Also avoid Emberstorm, hailstorm, pitfall, and crown of flame until endgame.
Why would anyone want to level emberstorm? I would not even get the demon version because it is not worth burning down your HP just to stun for 3 seconds.
No, no, no, no, no, no..... Just because hailstorm doesn't happen to immobilize half the time does not mean it is useless, it is far from useless since it is also an AOE that does not cost chi, area range and immobilize duration increases as you level it. At level 5 is an extra second, and level 10 is 2 extra seconds, what happens if stealing aggro? You hit with hailstorm and then the mobs trying to get you are immobilized which can buy time for the melee tanks to take aggro back. So there is no reason to avoid this skill.
Pitfall may have a lower chance but it will get a better chance of immobilize.
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Why would anyone want to level emberstorm? I would not even get the demon version because it is not worth burning down your HP just to stun for 3 seconds.
No, no, no, no, no, no..... Just because hailstorm doesn't happen to immobilize half the time does not mean it is useless, it is far from useless since it is also an AOE that does not cost chi, area range and immobilize duration increases as you level it. At level 5 is an extra second, and level 10 is 2 extra seconds, what happens if stealing aggro? You hit with hailstorm and then the mobs trying to get you are immobilized which can buy time for the melee tanks to take aggro back. So there is no reason to avoid this skill.
Pitfall may have a lower chance but it will get a better chance of immobilize.
It would be nice if immobilize lasts longer than the stuns, but still, these CC skills are useful.
I wrote post something like your, but deleted it, because AsimM - Raging Tide proposed his skills for fc may be.
Really at FC Wizard pay money for it and not need skills, so recommendation about:
"You can avoid all skills until level 100." is useful for powerleveler.0 -
Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »I wrote post something like your, but deleted it, because AsimM - Raging Tide proposed his skills for fc may be.
Really at FC Wizard pay money for it and not need skills, so recommendation about:
"You can avoid all skills until level 100." is useful for powerleveler.
looks like someone never did FC...i'd refrain from giving advice in areas i'm a total noobb:cuteyou only purge once #yopo0 -
PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »looks like someone never did FC...i'd refrain from giving advice in areas i'm a total noobb:cute
I play traditional way and think that all powerlevelers are noobs.
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PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »looks like someone never did FC...i'd refrain from giving advice in areas i'm a total noobb:cute
I did full FCs on archer before.... it was not hard at all, just BOA, although I had to be careful about barbs because I kept stealing aggro and died. Clerics only had to do IH / BB and that is it, purify on the debuff boss. Hell, that place can be taken without clerics until the debuff boss and I don't mean as assassins either.Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »I play traditional way and think that all powerlevelers are noobs.
Sorry, if it is sad truth for you.
I know that all the power levelers are noobs. What do they know than just to one shot them frozen heads?0 -
Level hailstorm and mountain seize. Be sure to get undine at 79. Depending on your channel either level the first tier single target skills or if you have a lot of -channel level the second tier.Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.0
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To be honest ill say DONT max your AOE skills til high lvl, unless you use a lvl 2 npc weapon, my AOE skills was maxed and that was a pain in FC, i really regretted it, i was dying constantly cause no one was able hold aggro on mobs for pulls (even barb or seeker wasnt able) and as wizz people will expect you to AOE so i suggest you to wait before max AOE skills except maybe will of phoenix.
Max pyrogram, gush, stone rain, sandstorm, divine pyro if u want, max stone barrier, get undine at lvl 79 its really important, glacial snare.
since you ask for PVE its the skill ill say you will use the most.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Toliman - Raging Tide wrote: »I play traditional way and think that all powerlevelers are noobs.
Sorry, if it is sad truth for you.
nah, sad truth that people that FC are noobs? not even close; in my book, grinders are noobsyou only purge once #yopo0 -
Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »To be honest ill say DONT max your AOE skills til high lvl, unless you use a lvl 2 npc weapon, my AOE skills was maxed and that was a pain in FC, i really regretted it, i was dying constantly cause no one was able hold aggro on mobs for pulls (even barb or seeker wasnt able) and as wizz people will expect you to AOE so i suggest you to wait before max AOE skills except maybe will of phoenix.
Max pyrogram, gush, stone rain, sandstorm, divine pyro if u want, max stone barrier, get undine at lvl 79 its really important, glacial snare.
since you ask for PVE its the skill ill say you will use the most.
Or you can time it right, use Mountains Sieze only and have AD / Expel or pots ready. And don't wait to activate any of them, better a wasted pot than not using one and dying. I maxed MS And never had trouble, excluding one or two times I mistimed and got rhaped by 100 mobs. Kinda rare that happened tho, and hilarious when it did :P. (See BM roar, start MS channel, it'l hit just as it wears off and still within HF debuff).I've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
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John_Smith - Harshlands wrote: »Or you can time it right, use Mountains Sieze only and have AD / Expel or pots ready. And don't wait to activate any of them, better a wasted pot than not using one and dying. I maxed MS And never had trouble, excluding one or two times I mistimed and got rhaped by 100 mobs. Kinda rare that happened tho, and hilarious when it did :P. (See BM roar, start MS channel, it'l hit just as it wears off and still within HF debuff).
I just wish they gave barb a real roar skill, 9 squads on 10 i was dying in pull even with AD expel pots (pan gu's essence), 95% of barb told me they cannot hold aggro on a wizz for a pull, but im unlucky and always got the weird fail squad with no aoe dd so i was always the one to die since steal aggro but squad not enough fast kill mobs.
I asked many wizz advice about skill when i was lvling my wizz, same than that topic (asked in game to some wizz) i asked which skill max or not, they told me which skill max or not (like to dont lvl crown and other nab skills like that) and sort of misundesrtanding they told me max my AOE skills, which after i had hard time in FC to dont die and ''old'' high lvl wizz told me that i shouldnt lvl AOE max lvl before lvl 100 cause FC.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »I just wish they gave barb a real roar skill, 9 squads on 10 i was dying in pull even with AD expel pots (pan gu's essence), 95% of barb told me they cannot hold aggro on a wizz for a pull, but im unlucky and always got the weird fail squad with no aoe dd so i was always the one to die since steal aggro but squad not enough fast kill mobs.
I asked many wizz advice about skill when i was lvling my wizz, same than that topic (asked in game to some wizz) i asked which skill max or not, they told me which skill max or not (like to dont lvl crown and other nab skills like that) and sort of misundesrtanding they told me max my AOE skills, which after i had hard time in FC to dont die and ''old'' high lvl wizz told me that i shouldnt lvl AOE max lvl before lvl 100 cause FC.
Your luck sucks then.
And I levelled crown. the impact damage is decent against metal mobs or sparked targets :<I've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
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Ye i kinda have a bad luck on wizz, i stopped play her cause too much depressing too die all the time everywhere.
Even in caster with 2 clerics i die as u cant imagine (even at first and second boss :x)
I realise when i play my wizz how much many clerics are fail, even hp charm and pots (crab meat and pan gu's essence pots from base) i die easy more than 2-3 time a run.
I have 5.2k hp and around 7.5k p.def buffed (with my demon stone barrier and cleric buff) so im not so ''weak''.
How many clerics i see turn metal form both in squad and say to people who die cause no heal that they fail, metal form was seriously the worse skill to give to cleric, already too many acted as metal mage now its worse they dont want heal anymore and cleric R9 are worse than R8, they want so much show off that they prefer let all squad die for DD than heal.
On all the runs i did on wizz (prolly more than 300 easy) there's 2 runs which i didnt die on wizz and that was with ALLSeeingEyE from Crimson prolly the only cleric R9 who still remember that a cleric job is to keep squad alive.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Seriously? This isn't even a debate.
At level 70, you shouldn't even be getting squads with that high of a damage output, thus you shouldn't be leveling your level 59 skills at all. Also, even if they were level 10, you wouldn't do enough damage with them to do enough DPS to kill them before your squad eventually wipes.
And hailstorm? Immobilizing half the time? You're assuming that he has the demon version at level 70? Cool story bro. And it doesn't do enough damage at level 70 either, wait until endgame. And was leveling pitfall mentioned in there somewhere? No. Just no. Anyone who uses it in PvE should reroll.
Yes, level Dragon's Breath. It'll help your squad kill lots of mobs faster.
Next, level offensive single target skills for bosses in twilight temple runs, such as pyrogram (max), gush (max), stone rain (max), Divine Pyro, Sandstorm, Glacial Snare (which you should use with essential suttra). Same case with BH."I would say that the worst band ever, Black Eyed Peas, played at the 2011 Superbowl, but I couldn't possibly take that title away from Nickelback"
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I like how people regard their opinions as facts. Level what suits your playstyle. Back when I was 70 I was a LA mage so I didn't really have any of the issues the other wizards here are discussing. Just remember it is up to you to moderate your damage. If the pull was just brought in try waitin til mobs are 75% hp to channel a nuke. Good moderation saves lives.Ling__Tong 101 bm ~ PheosNyx 103 wiz ~ Arande 100 HArcher ~ xXxKuro 100 barb ~ AnselTyme 101 cleric ~ lukeFONfabre 96 seeker ~ Tori_Anzu 90 mystic ~ KateiiHimura 95 veno ~ Artemaeus 58 psy. Playing since April 2009.0
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AsimM - Raging Tide wrote: »Seriously? This isn't even a debate.
At level 70, you shouldn't even be getting squads with that high of a damage output, thus you shouldn't be leveling your level 59 skills at all. Also, even if they were level 10, you wouldn't do enough damage with them to do enough DPS to kill them before your squad eventually wipes.
And hailstorm? Immobilizing half the time? You're assuming that he has the demon version at level 70? Cool story bro. And it doesn't do enough damage at level 70 either, wait until endgame. And was leveling pitfall mentioned in there somewhere? No. Just no. Anyone who uses it in PvE should reroll.
Yes, level Dragon's Breath. It'll help your squad kill lots of mobs faster.
Next, level offensive single target skills for bosses in twilight temple runs, such as pyrogram (max), gush (max), stone rain (max), Divine Pyro, Sandstorm, Glacial Snare (which you should use with essential suttra). Same case with BH.
By the time we answer the guy prolly bought couple FC and is prolly already lvl 89 already demon or sage XD.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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AsimM - Raging Tide wrote: »Seriously? This isn't even a debate.
At level 70, you shouldn't even be getting squads with that high of a damage output, thus you shouldn't be leveling your level 59 skills at all. Also, even if they were level 10, you wouldn't do enough damage with them to do enough DPS to kill them before your squad eventually wipes.
And hailstorm? Immobilizing half the time? You're assuming that he has the demon version at level 70? Cool story bro. And it doesn't do enough damage at level 70 either, wait until endgame. And was leveling pitfall mentioned in there somewhere? No. Just no. Anyone who uses it in PvE should reroll.
Yes, level Dragon's Breath. It'll help your squad kill lots of mobs faster.
Next, level offensive single target skills for bosses in twilight temple runs, such as pyrogram (max), gush (max), stone rain (max), Divine Pyro, Sandstorm, Glacial Snare (which you should use with essential suttra). Same case with BH.
It was me, with Crown. Like most other people you probably forget that it deals base damage before the pathetic DoT, meaning on certain mobs (Largely metal ones) it's much better than using Gush / Stone Rain between every Pyro or channelling Div.Pyro in place. (Which is **** until Demon / high chan / Sutra). Doesn't actually need levelling for the base, but the extra damage is extra damage, take what you can get. Not like it costs much.I've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
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It was probably stated somewhere in the walls of text I keep seeing (skimmed them, like a bad cleric).
My wizzie's sitting at 87 and has all of her shields and masteries leveled up to 10. A lot of her attacks are too, but that's because of my playing style.
I've been in some really bad squads that have all died on Runewolf (not too hard, now that I think about it). If that ever happens, most of the bosses in FC have a water magic attack, so you can tank in place until the tank stands up in most cases. This is where the water shield really helps. b:victory
It's all about personal play style. For TT, I don't know. Haven't run my wizzie through there yet. For grinding, whichever moves you use the most, level them. Level the three basic skills first for grinding, WoF, etc.
As a few people have said, it's all about your play style. What moves do you use most? What moves do you like using? What moves are most useful to you and/or the squad?
Level those up and enjoy the game. b:cuteb:cute The world may be small, but it is far from known.
Why the rage? It's a draining emotion.
Me: DaValentine (veno), Jaceraie (mystic), etc etc etc b:chuckle0
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