Celestial skills

_Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver
_Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
edited May 2012 in Seeker
I'm starting to work on Chrono pages for my level 100 celestial skills Rewinding Gesture and Duelists Glee, but I don't know which of the two to get first. On the face of it I would say Rewinding for the reset of voidstep for pvp purposes, but Duelests also looks like a good stance for PvP. Anyone got any input on the order to get these in?
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  • _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver
    _Belgarion_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    72 views and nobody has an input?... b:sad
  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Depends on playstyle I suppose.

    For PVP... Rewind gesture all the way. In addition to resetting your only tele-stun and speed/anti-stun skills, you also get a 15% increase in crit rate... which is invaluable since spike damage is so important in PVP. It's long cool down does suck however.

    As for the other celestial skill... though it does have application in PVP with it's disarm feature... like all stances it's proc rate is too unreliable to make it a real asset in PVP. Plus due to a glitch, proc rates on your stances reduces the success rate of your major immobilizing skill, heart seeker.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Plus due to a glitch, proc rates on your stances reduces the success rate of your major immobilizing skill, heart seeker.

    wait what? o.o
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  • Hexalot - Dreamweaver
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 871 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    wait what? o.o

    Yep... it's a glitch that has been around since EG inception. If Heart Seeker chance to immobilize is 75% and you activate a stance that has a 20% chance to proc, your immobilize chance drops to 55%.
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yep... it's a glitch that has been around since EG inception. If Heart Seeker chance to immobilize is 75% and you activate a stance that has a 20% chance to proc, your immobilize chance drops to 55%.

    activate = the target has the stance debuff (ie Eye of the Northern Sky) or the combo debuff (ie immobilize/def lvl debuff)?

    that's something I didnt know, ty :3
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  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yep... it's a glitch that has been around since EG inception. If Heart Seeker chance to immobilize is 75% and you activate a stance that has a 20% chance to proc, your immobilize chance drops to 55%.

    I stopped reading at "EG inception" x.x

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  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Geshwur - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I stopped reading at "EG inception" x.x

    It's a seeker within a seeker.

    Actually I do have a problem.

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  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Geshwur - Raging Tide wrote: »
    I stopped reading at "EG inception" x.x

    It's a seeker within a seeker.

    a seeker within a seeker....vortexing!
    you only purge once #yopo
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    a seeker within a seeker....vortexing!

    That looks delicious.
  • Vengeance - Lothranis
    Vengeance - Lothranis Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    i got both skills: the stance and the reset skill.

    The stance is great if you're a pk'er most of people don't know what to do cause almost no seekers get this stance. The other skill is awesome, i use it so much in tw for get extra crit and to reset voidstep,unfetter. I first got my stance than the reset one, but i would advice to get em switched and if you aren't a pk'er who goes 1 v 1 then don't buy the stance cause i hardly use it (almost never get a pk 1v1)

    grtz vengeance(lothranis)
  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Yep... it's a glitch that has been around since EG inception. If Heart Seeker chance to immobilize is 75% and you activate a stance that has a 20% chance to proc, your immobilize chance drops to 55%.
    pple need to either look up the stuff they dont understand or stop FCCing and learn and study the damn skills >.>


    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1157831&highlight=stance
    yan00 wrote: »
    some of u already kno but if u are a SAGE seeker, and have SAGE heartseeker. just like me the heartseeker is like what the F.... it ain't 90% successful. BS >.>. after consulting wiv QuakeX i learned that it's not bugged at all. well it is but let me explain. heartseeker CAN become 90%..

    sage u have all sage stances like me. the soulsever minut stance is... 65% successful in givin Spirit Bore debuff to opponent. when u have that stance on and use heartseeker, the heartseeker becomes 35% only.

    its like flippin a coin, heads OR tails. the coin can only land on ONE side. When u use Soulsever minute, u CANNOT paralyse the opponent AND give spirit bore debuff. only ONE will take place. you can work out the % as it needs to add up to 100.

    soulsever minute stance: 65%+ 35% (heartseeker)= 100%.
    parchedblade: 25% + 75%(heartseeker) = 100%
    northern sky: 40% + 60% (heartseeker) = 100

    as u can see the % is really s*** of heartseeker. if u use NO stance. heartseeker is 90%.

    atm i use the 100% skill, Duelist glee. 20% proc, so heartseeker is 80% successful.

    i hope this clears up the stuff about heartseeker.

    As for the thread question.... i got both but i find myself using the reset skill more.
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  • CatManDoo - Dreamweaver
    CatManDoo - Dreamweaver Posts: 214 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    think that chance to get stance or heartseeker efekt isnt 100%. should be rather like 65% to get soulsever and then if u dont get it, 90% immobilize or smthing. well still pretty high chance to get one of the efects, but not 100%.
  • Medaka - Lothranis
    Medaka - Lothranis Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    CatManDoo - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    think that chance to get stance or heartseeker efekt isnt 100%. should be rather like 65% to get soulsever and then if u dont get it, 90% immobilize or smthing. well still pretty high chance to get one of the efects, but not 100%.

    Don't forget that the stance has priority. Even if both effects would proc (use maxed ion spike as an example, even at 100% proc it'll still fail if you have a stance on) the stance would always be the one that procs in the case of both actually working at the same time :).

    I'm preety sure the chance of none working is reallllly low at that point which is why he calculated it with a 100% chance b:thanks

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