Blazing Barrier Disappointment

MageMERC - Harshlands
MageMERC - Harshlands Posts: 1,600 Arc User
edited January 2013 in Venomancer
So I finally got it today woot woot. I go to the venomancer trainer to learn it and its a 15second buff????

To me, that just sucks for 3million coins.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Well, I have yet to learn that so I can't judge but I can't say 15 seconds are too little. Bramble Hood itself is 15 seconds long.

    Blazing Barrier is like a inferior version of Bramble Hood anyway, it wasn't meant to work like Bramble Guard according to its description, but it's the only reflect skill that works in PvP now so those who PvP on a regular basis should be happy. Also, it's pretty neat if you consider the fact that it only requires 30 chi as opposed to the other venomancer panic skills (Bramble Hood, Feral Concentration). It has a one minute long cooldown, that's not too bad either. Less damage reduction but can be used more often.

    I can see lots of uses for it. But like I said I have yet to learn it and try it out myself. Still stuck in Shroud for the garnets b:chuckle
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The damage reduction effect is pretty similar to what a sage spark gives (for every class other than venos anyway) and the low chi cost allows you to use it whenever it is cooled down. It still looks like the most useful new skill for PvE to me.

    Just wondering though, does it overwrite, temporarily replace or stack with normal bramble?

    Also, pics of the skill plz b:cute
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  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I have a question about this skill

    It is a auto-buff?
    When you use the skill, Is the bramble guard replaced?
  • Tailla_Xx - Raging Tide
    Tailla_Xx - Raging Tide Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    lmao, I got the skill too and it's even better then expected. Really every sin, archer and Cleric that uses Plume shot kills him/herself in PK. It's like alot of fun now xD
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Tailla_Xx - Raging Tide wrote: »
    lmao, I got the skill too and it's even better then expected. Really every sin, archer and Cleric that uses Plume shot kills him/herself in PK. It's like alot of fun now xD

    Is this description wrong?
    Blazing Barrier Level 1
    Mana 454
    Channel 1.0 seconds
    Cast 0.8 seconds
    Cooldown 60.0 seconds
    Weapon Magic Instruments, Unarmed

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of Vacuity
    Surrounds you with a barrier of energy that lasts for 15
    seconds. Reduces all damage dealt to you by 30%, and
    reflects 100% of all melee damage back at the attacker.

    Requires 30 Chi.
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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Is this description wrong?
    i also heard its not actually just melee but all physical, but i dont have it yet so can't test myself. But description might be wrong since its half wrong on natural synergy for example.
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Okay, tested this skill. The description is not entirely wrong. It's just missing the fact that the skill reflects all physical damage. I tested in a duel with a wizzy using blade tempest since there is physical damage done with it, and it reflected 3300 damage on a R9 wizard (which I think is pretty awesome, given that I probably can't do that damage on him using my regular skills being a non-R9 veno). So it does reflect ALL physical damage including melee and range as well as plume shot. :) I believe the 100% reflect only works on MELEE and not all physical attacks.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Most of the venomancers skills used to have wrong description anyway. It doesn't surprise me that the new skills have that problem too lol.
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    The most annoying thing is that we got a range-melee reflect with similar duration to our 2-spark skill and people still QQ.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    The most annoying thing is that we got a range-melee reflect with similar duration to our 2-spark skill and people still QQ.

    if just if it was a buff which activates on being attacked...
    some venoskills need a revamp anyways...
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  • Cazane - Dreamweaver
    Cazane - Dreamweaver Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    YES we do still want our 15 MINUTES lasting bramble to work on PK if that's what you mean Phoenix. And no we're not QQ'ing that's just a way to minimize us we are claiming our rights...
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Cazane - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    we are claiming our rights...

    This is an online game, you have no such thing as rights.
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  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Cazane - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    YES we do still want our 15 MINUTES lasting bramble to work on PK if that's what you mean Phoenix. And no we're not QQ'ing that's just a way to minimize us we are claiming our rights...

    if you think that you have rights in this game and actually nerfs that happened in the past are going to be reverted , you pretty much fool yourself ...
    @ Regenbogen : surely , all skills need revamping especially after all these new stuff came out. However if things got balanced , there would be still people out there that would QQ about something . Complaints never stop , and nobody is ever satisfied. I find it pretty annoying that people still moan about things like bramble nerf after we all have understood that it is not going to be fixed. a thread about a viable use of our new skill would be more productive and useful to all players.
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I find it pretty annoying that people still moan about things like bramble nerf after we all have understood that it is not going to be fixed. a thread about a viable use of our new skill would be more productive and useful to all players.

    This. I'd rather have some more information on Blazing Barrier.

    Many things are outdated in the game but complaining about that won't change a thing. The new skill sounds like it's pretty epic and let's be serious now; it's not like a working Bramble Guard would save your *** from those APS and R9s. Bramble Hood, yes maybe but it's not like you can spam it. I, for one, am pretty happy with our new skill.
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  • KuruTu - Harshlands
    KuruTu - Harshlands Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Every veno who is complaining about their new skills should look at Cleric ones which are completely useless.
    Blazing Barrier is a decent skill
    - low chi cost
    - cooldown not bad
    - reduces damage
    - reflects all incoming physical damage (means works against archers and physical spells)
    - makes new status icon which means u can use it with Bramble Hood
    On the other hand, Bewitch skill really didnt amaze me (especially the fact that Tidal Protection can block it)
  • Doqui - Raging Tide
    Doqui - Raging Tide Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    KuruTu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Every veno who is complaining about their new skills should look at Cleric ones which are completely useless.
    Blazing Barrier is a decent skill
    - low chi cost
    - cooldown not bad
    - reduces damage
    - reflects all incoming physical damage (means works against archers and physical spells)
    - makes new status icon which means u can use it with Bramble Hood
    On the other hand, Bewitch skill really didnt amaze me (especially the fact that Tidal Protection can block it)

    Bewitch skill is awsome! ...lol




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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    KuruTu - Harshlands wrote: »
    On the other hand, Bewitch skill really didnt amaze me (especially the fact that Tidal Protection can block it)
    tidal can block any debuff. bewitch is controlling skill which we really lack. they rebuff faster than you go human form. extra foxform seal gives chance at least.
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  • Baby_pho - Heavens Tear
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    idk about you guys . but the new veno skills looks sweet to me. all of them seem nice.
  • dupethefile
    dupethefile Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    KuruTu - Harshlands wrote: »
    Every veno who is complaining about their new skills should look at Cleric ones which are completely useless.
    Blazing Barrier is a decent skill
    - low chi cost
    - cooldown not bad
    - reduces damage

    Are you joking or are you crazy? Cooldown not bad?
    Duration = 15s, Cooldown = 1 min and you say isn't bad? For me is the worst. Terrible.
    KuruTu - Harshlands wrote: »
    - reflects all incoming physical damage (means works against archers and physical spells)
    - makes new status icon which means u can use it with Bramble Hood
    On the other hand, Bewitch skill really didnt amaze me (especially the fact that Tidal Protection can block it)

    This buff doesn't replace the other reflect? So i can use it with bramble guard or brambole wood?
    I can put blazing barrier in a barb when he is tanking a boss?
  • Crescendia - Harshlands
    Crescendia - Harshlands Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    idk about you guys . but the new veno skills looks sweet to me. all of them seem nice.

    +10000000000000000000000000. I cant wait til I get my next skill 1982/3500 b:cry
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  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    As far as I know, blazing barrier is a self-buff like bramble hood. So no, no putting it on a barb.
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  • SerenityMare - Dreamweaver
    SerenityMare - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,211 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    dupethefile wrote: »
    This buff doesn't replace the other reflect? So i can use it with bramble guard or brambole wood?
    I can put blazing barrier in a barb when he is tanking a boss?

    The buff stacks with bramble hood and bramble guard, yes.

    And no, you can't buff someone else with it, can only be casted on self.
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  • TJTLegend - Archosaur
    TJTLegend - Archosaur Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Anyone got an image or a video showing how blazing barrier looks ?
    Also, showing the effect of the skill and how it works against multiple classes will be nice. b:victory
  • yghb
    yghb Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    MageMERC - Harshlands wrote: »
    So I finally got it today woot woot. I go to the venomancer trainer to learn it and its a 15second buff????

    To me, that just sucks for 3million coins.

    If you were expecting it to last like the normal and useless in pk bramble, then no wonder you are dissapointed.
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    yghb wrote: »
    If you were expecting it to last like the normal and useless in pk bramble, then no wonder you are dissapointed.

    well the new wizard buff can be recasted to be buffed permanently...b:cry
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  • Panna_M - Dreamweaver
    Panna_M - Dreamweaver Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Any video of this skill ? :p
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    imagine a veno squad running into a BoA with this buff...poor archer...b:chuckle
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  • Doqui - Raging Tide
    Doqui - Raging Tide Posts: 436 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    imagine a veno squad running into a BoA with this buff...poor archer...b:chuckle

    Defences (Pdef) play a big role in the amount of damage it reflects, if the target has high enough defence you will still die before he does regardless of the 30% damage reduction so it wouldn't be smart to run into BoA (not taking HP into account)

    Also, Sins seem to be to stupid to notice the 3 big blue balls floating around you and herpe derp themselfs to death pretty quike
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  • Desdi - Sanctuary
    Desdi - Sanctuary Posts: 8,680 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Most assassins don't notice anything..they just rush to the target and then wonder why they died.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Doqui - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Defences (Pdef) play a big role in the amount of damage it reflects, if the target has high enough defence you will still die before he does regardless of the 30% damage reduction so it wouldn't be smart to run into BoA (not taking HP into account)

    Also, Sins seem to be to stupid to notice the 3 big blue balls floating around you and herpe derp themselfs to death pretty quike


    oh thats why clerics 1shot themselves so often b:chuckle
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