Tempest vs Spades TW

about, not bout.

than i would like to see regn attack tempest than and see umm that they are going die as well.... if regn kept attacking them for like the past 1 month+ or something around there.
and unlike regn mostly all their barbs are r9+10 and have like a 50k barb, i don't see that barb going down until the end when he get to opponents crystal or to their turret. and in my opinion regn has the most r9 out of all the big four tw faction so they out gear a lot of people in game.
heartz u are a killer-.- with your r9+12 jades sniping people with your bow

top = 1 to 4/5 to me:)

I wonder how can Ashivas say that Tempest is nr 2, if there havent been any TW between Tempest and Regen or Tempest and Dynasty. I want that crystal ball u haveb:surrender

and with was all different, downfall started cause leaders left and after that some members and then other factions were starting to attack.

b:laugh FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT b:victory ................

hi i dont know how to type inglish tho my will give it a try

Dynasty sucks.
Dynasty never was a good faction.
Dynasty will never be a good faction.
Dynasty sucked since Smexy was leader.
Dynasty allways been full of tards allways.
Dynasty never knew how to win, thats why now they are getting rolled again( few months ago they claimed to be better than Regenesis).
Dynasty been around for around 3 years ( not that much but close to it ) . 3 years = way too much TW weekends, and they have never be a really nr1 faction.
Last Point means they will never be nr1. Losers will be losers allways.
Dynasty allways been good @ sucking other guild players. Allways looking forward to see a drama happen in a guild and get there nembers into Dynasty.
Is funny to see how some '' new '' Dynasty nembers gets butt hurted over this thread * This ******* might as well be the next person who leaves that guild and they will still pretend to show the rest players on this dead server that they are the most loyal persons around*
Did I say Dynasty sucks?

So enuff said. Ima make my own currently '' guild ranking''

1- Gladio
2- Famine
3- Spades
4- Karma
5- Calamity
6- Sprouts
7- Tempest
8-QQBatWhay
9- Regenesis
10- Kindrid

That ranking is the proof that Dynasty aint a top faction. they might be nr11 or n12, but not in the top 10 !

Maybe God Bless You All And The U.S.A

Bye Olee ~








Dynasty sucks.

Isn't TW just meant to be fun regardless of result - its something I always preach to faction. Seems like TW trolling is more fun to some and they appear very out of touch with the enjoyment value of the last truly fun aspect of this game.

You only have to look at the enjoyment voiced by Tempest and Spades members over lengthier wars of late - or the multitude of smaller factions on the map that each and every week get to experience TW.

Everyone needs to chill out enjoy the TW instance for what it is and not get so hung up on results - TW, however long it may last, is a damn sight more enjoyable that Morai dailies afterall!

Ashivas - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Edit: just to be clear ima explain my reasoning yet again. The reason dyna will fall is simply because regen is attacking them relentlessly. If regen did this to any other action the same damn thing would happen to that faction, guaranteed. Almost every single person in this game is what sports fans would call a "fair weather fan". You love the faction and its the bestest faction in the world...when its doing good. the second theres some adversity, or drama, or ANYTHING that these fair weather fans don't like (losing land) they jump ship and hop on another band wagon. My guess is they're going to go to spades and tempest, but we will see. To anyone who claims their faction isn't like that, and all their members are there because they're friends and wouldnt leave for anything, I have one thing to say to you. You're delusional

I disagree; if Dynasty died every time they faced opposition, they wouldn't still be here. The fact that they are here means there is a flaw somewhere in your logic. Yes, like any faction, Dynasty has had its up and downs. But it is still here, and its still TWing, and until Regenesis chooses to attack a different faction, we can assume that Regenesis still sees Dynasty as the biggest threat, owing to the fact that Regenesis is known for always targetting the next-strongest faction.

And really, with what arrogance do you say '5th strongest'? That statement is just so full of BS. Even if we assume that both Spades and Tempest are stronger than Dynasty, which I highly doubt, that would still put Dynasty at 4th place. What, are you going to tell me Bootycamp is stronger? Lol, Gladio beat Bootycamp, and Kindrid, and its a sure fact Dynasty is stronger than either of those factions. Who then, eh? I say you are speaking out yur ***.

IN addition, Dynasty has always TWed yes, but its also a fact that Dynasty has never been quite as TW-focused as Regenesis. TW attendance is requested but its probably not as strictly enforced as in other factions to be sure. I have heard it said that Dynasty calls itself a 'family faction', and this fact may be what has contributed to its longevity, despite its successes or defeats from TW.

And to be sure, there are a lot of things factions can do nowadays apart from simply TWing, which I know Dynasty does (which many factions do, of course): faction trials, squadding together for instances of all sorts, group pking, in-faction events (fashion shows, contests, etc). Simply being friends with others in a given faction. So while TW is one glue which holds together a faction, it is not the only one, and its ridiculous to say a faction will die without exemplary TW performance. Look at how many non-tw factions there are, who still have many active in them. If anything, Regenesis would suffer more from a TW loss, because they are a more TW-oriented faction.

Finally, history is all very nice and so forth, but what matters is the right-now. Knowing that two years ago I was broke, doesn't tell you anything about my current finances, does it now. Likewise, looking at a faction's history in TW doesn't tell you anything about its current strength. We will only know for sure who is stronger among Spades/Tempest/Dynasty when they directly fight each other in a 1vs1, no double defending either, and no amount of supposition and BSing will change that.

Cheers!

Azzazin

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I disagree; if Dynasty died every time they faced opposition, they wouldn't still be here. The fact that they are here means there is a flaw somewhere in your logic. Yes, like any faction, Dynasty has had its up and downs. But it is still here, and its still TWing, and until Regenesis chooses to attack a different faction, we can assume that Regenesis still sees Dynasty as the biggest threat, owing to the fact that Regenesis is known for always targetting the next-strongest faction.

I mean die in the way is dead, still here, but not like they were. Of course you will probably be right. With server resets they'll never go away. So I'll give that one up, they won't die, just lose power.

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

And really, with what arrogance do you say '5th strongest'? That statement is just so full of BS. Even if we assume that both Spades and Tempest are stronger than Dynasty, which I highly doubt, that would still put Dynasty at 4th place. What, are you going to tell me Bootycamp is stronger? Lol, Gladio beat Bootycamp, and Kindrid, and its a sure fact Dynasty is stronger than either of those factions. Who then, eh? I say you are speaking out yur ***.

Oops, I did mean to say 4th. Not sure where 5th came from, I must have miscounted. But I meant to say lower than Regen/Temp/Spades.

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

IN addition, Dynasty has always TWed yes, but its also a fact that Dynasty has never been quite as TW-focused as Regenesis. TW attendance is requested but its probably not as strictly enforced as in other factions to be sure. I have heard it said that Dynasty calls itself a 'family faction', and this fact may be what has contributed to its longevity, despite its successes or defeats from TW.

And to be sure, there are a lot of things factions can do nowadays apart from simply TWing, which I know Dynasty does (which many factions do, of course): faction trials, squadding together for instances of all sorts, group pking, in-faction events (fashion shows, contests, etc). Simply being friends with others in a given faction. So while TW is one glue which holds together a faction, it is not the only one, and its ridiculous to say a faction will die without exemplary TW performance. Look at how many non-tw factions there are, who still have many active in them. If anything, Regenesis would suffer more from a TW loss, because they are a more TW-oriented faction.

You couldn't be more wrong with this statement. First off, Regenesis is active in everything in this game, every event, just everything period. But if for some reason regen lost their land, they'd lose a good chunk of their members, regardless of their activity in other events. Which would in turn cause their activity in other aspects of the game to suffer. If factions still survive with no land, then tell me, who are they? Where are these factions? Name more than 2 please. Because sure there will maybe be 1 or 2 exceptions to the rule. But I doubt there are a myriad of factions out there who dont TW yet still participate actively in weekly events and what-not. Usually TW and faction events go hand in hand. TW success means the faction is strong and active, and having a strong and active faction means you can do those events in large numbers. A faction bringing one squad to an event does not constitute a factions "being alive in other aspects of the game".

Azzazin - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Finally, history is all very nice and so forth, but what matters is the right-now. Knowing that two years ago I was broke, doesn't tell you anything about my current finances, does it now. Likewise, looking at a faction's history in TW doesn't tell you anything about its current strength. We will only know for sure who is stronger among Spades/Tempest/Dynasty when they directly fight each other in a 1vs1, no double defending either, and no amount of supposition and BSing will change that.

Cheers!

Azzazin

This is asking the impossible and you know it. Very rarely will a faction ever get a 1v1 fight. And when they do, its usually the same faction week after week, and there's usually a reason. Making guesses as to who is #1 and 2 and so forth is just fun and games, it means nothing. Its no different than ESPN making guesses as to who's better between Kobe or LeBron, their discussions don't change who is better, and never will. It's practically pointless for them to talk about it. But it creates drama and interest in the topic. Which is good for business. Much like these sorts of topics are good for the TW scene. It creates drama and interest. Which is good for TW. And I like TW

You're butthurt. That's all.

Berserker_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

how this did go from a TW vid to this whole debateb:shockedb:shocked

Didn't you know? All threads on the Dreamweaver forums must turn into this debate within 5 pages. It in the server bylaws somewhere. ;p

Great work DP keep the vids coming. Like most people I love the TWs that last longer than 30mins with 2 similar geared factions. BB is right, people should spend more time enjoying TWs than ******** about which factions are better/stronger than others.

1st i dont think regen has more r9 than dyna. for a while dyna was recruiting bunch of r9 when regen didnt. amount of r9 might be pretty close.

what ppl mean by "dynasty is dying" is tw wise. if im right, been like 3 weeks that tw dont last more than 15 min? so yay ppl start ask questions.

in a sense, if dyna doesnt care about lands, why attack sprouts? when u know there wont be any opposition. i for my part have friends, who are and/or were in dyna. and i know what they feel. some just dont bother show up anymore because of that.

and what is this? ppl calling others morron and bashing about gears? doesnt dyna have ojimaru, rayin, skylla, extacy, sarisama, heamon with godly gears? (just a few examples) and i respect them all cause they are good persons.

about tempest, sorry but i dont think they are stronger than dyna. i think tempest roster is weaker than dyna (hope no one will be offended) and way too much desorganization and "i want pk in tw"

unfortunately, i was directed to this thread a few days ago and have curiously watched it since. i wish both sides could be civil or diplomatic in this. i tw because it's fun and i like to play with my friends in faction and also as my enemays. i have a few friends in regen so i dont have any hostility or so towards them and i dont know any in dyna who does, but it is a big faction tho i dont think im blind.

the reason i am posting is because nowhere in the title of this thread says dyna v regen; it actually says tempest v spades, if you didnt know, therefore i think these two factions should have the spotlight they're getting alot more fun tw's than i am atm (and friends in regen agree with me too on this!)

truthfully, i haven't watched the video from the op but i'm sure it was epic! i crave very much what you two have QQ

i can only look forward to this weekend and hope it will be fun. i think both sides need it currently

Stonk - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Family alienate members based on their choice in friends in game and in real life ? I wish my family was like this. b:surrender

SMASHandHEAL is #1 fac.

i lav eu pedoh santa b:cryb:cryb:cryb:heart

Graviora - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Yay! Reading time!

Also... Hi Achi and Sasu

b:kissb:kiss