Morai Daggers

Out_BM - Archosaur
Out_BM - Archosaur Posts: 20 Arc User
edited April 2012 in Assassin
If anyone gets the Morai Daggers from the 5k prest. In corona, curious to see if these slayer lvls it gets at 4aps can out DD R9 at 4aps vs mobs ofc.
Idk maybe someones calculated this out already. Just Curious which is gunna be more powerful in pve now ^^
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  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    You're a bit early. I don't think it's possible for anyone to have 5k prestige in any order for another 4 or 5 days. R9 will be more dps due to the GoF proc. Without that proc they would have been about even at high refines.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Does that mean they blow R8/G13 nirvy away? :(
  • violetvalor
    violetvalor Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    R9 = 236,110 sparked dps
    G15 Descent (4x +130 Max Atk) = 248,813 sparked dps

    Each have +12 refines and 2x +100 garnet gems. So there are some combinations of adds on the G15 Morai daggers that outdo R9. You can use the spreadsheet and pwdatabase links below to try your combinations.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjWJBqePFkradFhQUHROaFl2bExCVEJNbTltMExyZ1E#gid=0
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33529


    Just for comparison since it was mentioned,

    R8 = 181,115 sparked dps
    G13 Nirvana = 200,625 sparked dps
    G13 Morai = 192,971 sparked dps
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    You can only get 3 Max Attack +130 adds on the dagger in addition to the +60 slaying level (example) but otherwise everything looks right.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Does that mean they blow R8/G13 nirvy away? :(

    The G15 Morai is superior to both, regardless of your culti.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    No wayyyyy! Grrrr I'm upset now cuz i worked so hard just to get these damn G13 nirvy ones and only equipped them yesterday :(
  • soboredyea
    soboredyea Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Does that mean they blow R8/G13 nirvy away? :(
    and what about R8 recast?
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No wayyyyy! Grrrr I'm upset now cuz i worked so hard just to get these damn G13 nirvy ones and only equipped them yesterday :(

    Well, the G15 Morai is only better if we're talking about a situation where you have all the -interval pieces. If you don't, I'm pretty sure going from 3.33 to 5.0 is going to be enough to make the g13 superior.
    soboredyea wrote: »
    and what about R8 recast?

    A decent recast R8 was already superior to G13 Nirvana.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    @Olbaze I'm pretty sure sobored was wondering about r8r vs the g15 morai daggers.
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  • soboredyea
    soboredyea Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    sorry and yes, how would G15 Morai compare with R8 recast?
  • MagicEmpress - Lost City
    MagicEmpress - Lost City Posts: 795 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide wrote: »
    No wayyyyy! Grrrr I'm upset now cuz i worked so hard just to get these damn G13 nirvy ones and only equipped them yesterday :(
    If they aren't bound you can sell them once you get the Morai G15 ones
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    MagicEmpress - Lost City wrote: »
    If they aren't bound you can sell them once you get the Morai G15 ones

    ... Obviously he means Barrier Thorn: Nirvana, which is bound on equip.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    b:cry

    Sighh spent 2 weeks farming it from scratch...even the gold mats and tt mats to make all the green and gold dagz :(

    But wait you mentioned having all -int pieces.
    I don't have the tome and I'm sage o.o!

    Initially i have a pair of R8 +7 and was very happy with them i love the spike damage!
    Got the G13 because of the increased chi gain so i can actually use subsea/dash more effectively.

    That being said are the Morai daggerz still better?
    (Have all -int except the tome. I'm 2.5 base with r8/3.33 with g13)
  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I did math regarding morai vs R8. Average Addons on morai is 15-20% more aps at high refines than R8. I would think R8 recast is simply superior compared to morai ones due -int that I heard was set Addon on em. But morai dags need refines to be good as base stats are terrible. If I were you, I'd prolly go for G15 nirvana dags as you got the G13 ones already.

    Ps. The only aps jump that would IMO make G13 outperform morai dags on high refines is 3.33->5.00.
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  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »
    I did math regarding morai vs R8. Average Addons on morai is 15-20% more aps at high refines than R8. I would think R8 recast is simply superior compared to morai ones due -int that I heard was set Addon on em. But morai dags need refines to be good as base stats are terrible. If I were you, I'd prolly go for G15 nirvana dags as you got the G13 ones already.

    Ps. The only aps jump that would IMO make G13 outperform morai dags on high refines is 3.33->5.00.
    I'm pretty sure you meant DPS, right?
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  • WnbTank - Archosaur
    WnbTank - Archosaur Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Typhyse - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure you meant DPS, right?

    I meant dps but this freaking auto correct seems to think like dps was typo for aps, sigh.
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  • Azizsixer - Raging Tide
    Azizsixer - Raging Tide Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Ty for doing the math for me :D

    Glad its not by much o.o!

    So as u said I'm heading for G15 soon. But As it stands I knw my sin isn't well enough geared or refined to handle a gof/ss wep it'd hurt more than it'll help. So sticking with G13 til i farm up the raps and get my refines up to +7/8 ish and +10 helm :D

    Ty for input and sorry for railroading the original topic x.x
  • Typhyse - Sanctuary
    Typhyse - Sanctuary Posts: 3,469 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    WnbTank - Archosaur wrote: »
    I meant dps but this freaking auto correct seems to think like dps was typo for aps, sigh.
    Autocorrect? You doing mobile or something?
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  • ellero
    ellero Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    So, ppl should have 5k prestige by now.. any1 got the daggers?
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    hum, i just noticed that the craft rate with 2 sockets is 25% :/

    i wonder how many chien will be needed for a second socket
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    hum, i just noticed that the craft rate with 2 sockets is 25% :/

    i wonder how many chien will be needed for a second socket

    It will just be 16k socket stones to add a 2nd socket to a g15 weapon.
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  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It will just be 16k socket stones to add a 2nd socket to a g15 weapon.

    ewww the most ive gotten is 1k
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    It will just be 16k socket stones to add a 2nd socket to a g15 weapon.

    well, in that case i could just get it 10 times and have 99.9999% chance to get at least one with 2 socketsb:chuckle
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  • EIvemage - Dreamweaver
    EIvemage - Dreamweaver Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    well, in that case i could just get it 10 times and have 99.9999% chance to get at least one with 2 socketsb:chuckle

    its 94,37%
  • PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver
    PotatoHeadQR - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,507 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    EIvemage - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    its 94,37%

    oh rightb:surrender
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    EIvemage - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    its 94,37%

    b:cry Rounding up probabilities makes me cry. At least say it's 1 - (0.75^10).

    And to actually get the 99.9999%, you'd have to get the dagger 33 times.
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Olbaze, oh you.
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  • EIvemage - Dreamweaver
    EIvemage - Dreamweaver Posts: 146 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    bah its been too long since i had that in school
  • ellero
    ellero Posts: 89 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Actually the truth is that there are 2 recasting npcs, the cheaper one will recast all sockets and stats, but the more expencive in terms of item will change just the stats, leaving the sockets b:bye

    So it will be really cheap to get 2 soc perfect stats :p
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ellero wrote: »
    Actually the truth is that there are 2 recasting npcs, the cheaper one will recast all sockets and stats, but the more expencive in terms of item will change just the stats, leaving the sockets b:bye

    So it will be really cheap to get 2 soc perfect stats :p

    Are you sure it's not the other way around?

    And thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering why PWD had two crafting options for it.
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