my end game build on EP

VKnightV - Lost City
VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
edited April 2012 in General Discussion
my end game build on my ep will be like this http://pwcalc.com/be19343fecf950c5
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  • oxytorch
    oxytorch Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    If thats what you want to do...
    b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry We love this game STOP RUINING IT !! b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry b:angry

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  • Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands
    Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands Posts: 7,231 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    +5 for end game?
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Uninstall now and save yourself the disapointment
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I approve of this build.
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  • ETHA// - Sanctuary27
    ETHA// - Sanctuary27 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I'd rather go for something like this than. b:sleep
    Dunno if the vana gear I put in is best for cleric or is the equilivant of what he put in. Never really bothered looking into it, as well as the tome/ornaments.
    Either way, more hp, more mag attack, more mp.
    I don't think the extra phys defense is going to save your *** in case of emergency, since your heals won't be as strong too. And well.. be ready to spam pots when using plume-shell against something that actually hits hard enough for the phys defense to matter? XD
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I'd rather go for something like this than. b:sleep
    Dunno if the vana gear I put in is best for cleric or is the equilivant of what he put in. Never really bothered looking into it, as well as the tome/ornaments.
    Either way, more hp, more mag attack, more mp.
    I don't think the extra phys defense is going to save your *** in case of emergency, since your heals won't be as strong too. And well.. be ready to spam pots when using plume-shell against something that actually hits hard enough for the phys defense to matter? XD

    Woooosh.b:shutup
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  • Lysiena - Dreamweaver
    Lysiena - Dreamweaver Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    HA on a cleric? IDK how well that will work out, but if you must, you might want refine everything +10 at least to survive.

    I approve of the gear ETHA// came up with, close to what I had on my cleric.
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  • ETHA// - Sanctuary27
    ETHA// - Sanctuary27 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Woooosh.b:shutup

    =_o not sure if positive or negative woosh just wooshed towards me. b:shutup
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  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    +5 was to begin with

    its not 13k or so its more like 20-30k self buff with a 10 sec duration wish is hell lot

    i am going for +10 but +5 is good to start with

    i dont need to be pure to pk ppl and i am not a dd cos i am ep i dont need to be pure to heal.

    i do not wana be like everyone else nor do i wana go r9 as its ROBE worst gear ever made.

    saphire is two time cheaper in lost city then garnet and citrune not to mention deff lv and attack lv so ya.

    i cant for hell say why ppl think ep should go pure a 300 r8 +10 will do what it need to heal only a nub dosent see that.

    maybe you guys shoudl try a heavy build before you speak cos you sure dont seem to get it.

    its a FUN BUILD and if i am gona invest it sure should be for fun sake.
  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    and i am a knight get it

    as in heavy armor and the whitier all the better

    enough with this nub mentality

    if you guys have something to say do so but coem with real critisism instead of trolling.
  • ETHA// - Sanctuary27
    ETHA// - Sanctuary27 Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    if you're going for +10, then don't say it's your endgame build when it's +5 xD
    Noone said you should be pure mag to pk ppl, noone said you're a DD, you don't HAVE to be pure to heal, but it sure makes your heals stronger, which is good.

    Noone said you have to be like everyone, and the best cleric I know is outfitted in rank9. You'd be surprised. Who mentioned rank9 anyway?

    /doesn't know about prices. You went with G11 gems, so whatever, just changed them to my preference \o/

    Who the hell said 300, rank8 + 10 to heal o_o"

    Maybe if you don't want people to speak about it, you shouldn't post it on a public forum?

    and well... have fun o/
    glad you're on a diff server cause I wouldn't trust my seeker's *** to a cleric that goes HA XD \o/

    EDIT: If you're a knight, you might be playing the wrong class o_o;
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Why do you have nearly the same magic attack as my cleric with a FCC weapon +4 ...
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  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Using saph gems as armor shards completely nullifies the advantage of being HA, if there is much benefit to it at all.
    Basically, you just get back to the same mdef and pdef as full AA but with aweful mag attack.

    http://pwcalc.com/c73889a506417540
    ^- Only acceptable HA build imo.
    Also, the r8 recast should have all the def adds; pwcalc just won't let me modify it.
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    this is how u should be http://pwcalc.com/12f3e24b4e12618b
    at end game
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Using saph gems as armor shards completely nullifies the advantage of being HA, if there is much benefit to it at all.
    Basically, you just get back to the same mdef and pdef as full AA but with aweful mag attack.

    http://pwcalc.com/c73889a506417540
    ^- Only acceptable HA build imo.
    Also, the r8 recast should have all the def adds; pwcalc just won't let me modify it.

    he is not richt
  • Renza - Raging Tide
    Renza - Raging Tide Posts: 1,939 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Using saph gems as armor shards completely nullifies the advantage of being HA, if there is much benefit to it at all.
    Basically, you just get back to the same mdef and pdef as full AA but with aweful mag attack.

    http://pwcalc.com/c73889a506417540
    ^- Only acceptable HA build imo.
    Also, the r8 recast should have all the def adds; pwcalc just won't let me modify it.

    Full on cash shopper build or insane merchant or no life farming, getting all those jsod into the armour would cost an arm and a leg, it baffles me still to this day why people are prepared to sink so much money into such gear, especially with the p-servers that hand it to you on a plate...basically like PWI does, just without wanting to suck your wallet dry, funny that.
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  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Full on cash shopper build or insane merchant or no life farming, getting all those jsod into the armour would cost an arm and a leg, it baffles me still to this day why people are prepared to sink so much money into such gear, especially with the p-servers that hand it to you on a plate...basically like PWI does, just without wanting to suck your wallet dry, funny that.

    thats way i offered this build instead
    http://pwcalc.com/12f3e24b4e12618b
  • Ariella_ - Lost City
    Ariella_ - Lost City Posts: 245 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    You're all complete idiots.

    So here's a big and fantastical WOOOOOOOOSSHHHHHH to everyone who replied to this guy in a serious manner.
    <3 b:cute
  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    thats way i offered this build instead
    http://pwcalc.com/12f3e24b4e12618b

    Doesn't that end up wasting 24 points in dex?
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  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Doesn't that end up wasting 24 points in dex?

    not really those 24 extra dex gives crit hitb:cute
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    http://pwcalc.com/12f3e24b4e12618b this bulid is operfect it both gives nice phy def and nice mag def\
    and nice crit
  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    he is not richt

    Then he shouldn't be rolling HA cleric. Just being objective. Even putting in the money for lvl 11 gems won't make your survivability that much better than going AA and getting more bang for your buck in terms of healing power.

    If you're going to be a stickler against JOSD, then take them out and replace them with citrine or garnet gems. I'm ok with that fix, but if you analyze this modified build with yours, you'll see major areas in which your build is inferior to mine. Why?

    1) I don't see why you use a vana sword. R8 recast is INFINITELY better for this build since you can get 25+ defense levels on it.
    2) You add WAY too much str and dex needed. Get rid of those horrid orns and replace them with real ones - you overshot by about 60 str and 20 dex. You cite "extra crit," but is this really the point of an HA cleric? No...In fact, you just took out like 12 chan, 1k potential pdef, 7 crit, 1k potential mdef, ~500 hp, 2 def and 5 attack lvls with your unnecessary orns - that is a horrible tradeoff for a cleric.
    3) The Pdef you have on your "perfect build" is like 1k more than mine, and I didn't use any garnet shards (if you add those in, then my pdef exceeds yours by far). Also, using saph gems seems counterproductive for the purpose of this build. Pdef/hp seem like the priorities here.

    Here's the fixed build:
    http://pwcalc.com/1e23b9fa276eb30f
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Then he shouldn't be rolling HA cleric. Just being objective. Even putting in the money for lvl 11 gems won't make your survivability that much better than going AA and getting more bang for your buck in terms of healing power.

    If you're going to be a stickler against JOSD, then take them out and replace them with citrine or garnet gems. I'm ok with that fix, but if you analyze this modified build with yours, you'll see major areas in which your build is inferior to mine. Why?

    1) I don't see why you use a vana sword. R8 recast is INFINITELY better for this build since you can get 25+ defense levels on it.
    2) You add WAY too much str and dex needed. Get rid of those horrid orns and replace them with real ones - you overshot by about 60 str and 20 dex. You cite "extra crit," but is this really the point of an HA cleric? No...In fact, you just took out like 12 chan, 1k potential pdef, 7 crit, 1k potential mdef, ~500 hp, 2 def and 5 attack lvls with your unnecessary orns - that is a horrible tradeoff for a cleric.
    3) The Pdef you have on your "perfect build" is like 1k more than mine, and I didn't use any garnet shards (if you add those in, then my pdef exceeds yours by far). Also, using saph gems seems counterproductive for the purpose of this build. Pdef/hp seem like the priorities here.

    Here's the fixed build:
    http://pwcalc.com/1e23b9fa276eb30f

    r8 recasted weapon values nearly as same as r9

    and each Jods values 170 mills

    yes def lvl is alot better but paying like 3500$ to have the gear fully jods and r8 recasted weapon and the refine to +12

    i say again he is not richt

    and that tome values 500mills on my server

    if we calculate how mucth he will spent

    whit my build and ur build mine is cheaper and

    and is very good

    urs is great but only richt may get it

    about the ornaments u got like 425- 500 mills in ornamets

    and i only have like 5-10 mils in ornaments
  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    r8 recasted weapon values nearly as same as r9
    Not true; it is about half the value of r9. This is the same price approx as a second-casted vana weapon.

    and each Jods values 170 mills
    I already removed them for your satisfaction, which you didn't notice b:surrender

    yes def lvl is alot better but paying like 3500$ to have the gear fully jods and r8 recasted weapon and the refine to +12
    See above...also I didn't refine to +12

    i say again he is not richt
    Already responded to sufficiently in first post...

    and that tome values 500mills on my server
    I just threw it in, it's not necessary to the build.

    if we calculate how mucth he will spent

    whit my build and ur build mine is cheaper and

    and is very good
    Your build has some very EASY changes to make it about 20% better.

    urs is great but only richt may get it
    My modified build isn't that much more expensive than yours.

    about the ornaments u got like 425- 500 mills in ornamets
    Not really...More like 250, which, I think anyone would invest for the benefits I stated above. I.e. 12 chan, 5 attk, 2 def, 500+ hp, 1k+ pdef, 1k+ mdef, 7 crit, etc. 250m is adding about 10% extra to what you would need for the stuff we agree on, so I consider it a realistic investment. Also, you used a 4-socketed vana cape. The difference in cost between that and a 4-socketed lunar chan cape will easily make up for the difference in cost that you claim exists between yours and mine.

    AND, if all those arguments don't make sense to you, I'll restate that you OVERSHOT by 60 str and 20 dex and that at least 2 of your useless orns are completely unneeded. Replacing them with a cheap-**** sky demons pearl and a lunar ring would make it much better.


    and i only have like 5-10 mils in ornaments
    Which suck and make the build more useless than it needs to be

    Answers in red. You didn't read some of my arguments.
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    well what can i say......sanctuary..PvE... lost city were VKnigthV and i are
    is PVP and things on this server are very expensive if in urs the r8 rcast is cheap then u have luck cus in lost city is better to get r9 cus r8 recast just cost like 50 mills less or 100 less sometimes

    plp on this server nearly all r scammers thats all i can say and its why i putted that build to be as cheap as it can

    sky demoon pearlss arent cheap since each cost in between 75-200 mills

    and yes they can be get for free by doing the public quest (wicht only the high rpk faction does and they kill and dont let u do nothing on the quest) on lost city server there r meany things that the 70% of server wont get cus the 30% kills em

    PvE is easy to farm whit the time u get the gear
    PVP is hard drops are very nerfted and r9 plp are lame in pvp killing lowbies not letting em to lvl up
    causing meany to quit and things are over priced
  • Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary
    Scorched_Sky - Sanctuary Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    well what can i say......sanctuary..PvE... lost city were VKnigthV and i are
    is PVP and things on this server are very expensive if in urs the r8 rcast is cheap then u have luck cus in lost city is better to get r9 cus r8 recast just cost like 50 mills less or 100 less sometimes
    Hmm, ok I can accept that. The value of a vana wep in terms of cost/benefit ratio is still lower than that for r9/r8 recast, in my opinion.

    plp on this server nearly all r scammers thats all i can say and its why i putted that build to be as cheap as it can
    If it is as cheap as it can be, then don't go HA cleric...Also, I would drop some of the armors (and make due with lower grade HA) for the orns that I listed. Some of the orns I have are more important imo, and can be obtained by sacrificing one piece of armor (not too big of a sacrifice for the benefits I had above). Also, the fact that you overshotted in terms of statting has been for a second time, unaddressed.

    sky demoon pearlss arent cheap since each cost in between 75-200 mills
    Either LC economy is messed up (in a SERIOUS way), or this is a lie.

    and yes they can be get for free by doing the public quest (wicht only the high rpk faction does and they kill and dont let u do nothing on the quest) on lost city server there r meany things that the 70% of server wont get cus the 30% kills em
    ??? If you are talking about the cloud stirs, I still argue they are obtainable via merching.

    PvE is easy to farm whit the time u get the gear No one farms completely. Merching is where it's at.
    PVP is hard drops are very nerfted and r9 plp are lame in pvp killing lowbies not letting em to lvl up
    causing meany to quit and things are over priced
    Merch.

    /10 char
  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ok you bouth stop

    the reason i am going saphire is cos i am not going fashion and i like the flashy look
    so boring when ppl hide themself in fashion.

    i am always looking for orments from OHT for extra stats as i wish to get my mag to 400 but that is if i am lucky with the orments and rings from AH.

    the only thing i might not put saphire is on helmet and cape the armor is alredy decided to be saphire.

    dosent matter what you two think its my ep and i am doing it for a fun build
    so bored with all ppl think pure dd mentallity.

    i am just trying to have my two stats pdef and mag as big has possible if my mag suck ooh well who cares.

    now plz based on what i am now stating if you can come with good crititism based on what i said plz post.
  • Zalislia - Lost City
    Zalislia - Lost City Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    lol we r in a debate of what is better and what is more economicb:chuckle
  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    lol i know my pet you are and i let you keep it up it sure seem like you two are enjoying urself.
  • VKnightV - Lost City
    VKnightV - Lost City Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    this is a good way i think my build will look liek playing with stats making use of all the stats.

    http://pwcalc.com/be19343fecf950c5