Mystic Weapon Choices

t4akacentaur
t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
edited April 2012 in Mystic
Hello, fellow Mystics :)

I'm a Lv81 Mystic and I was wondering what my weapon path should be like.


Right now, I've got Endless Ambiguity >http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14903<

At Lv90, I have a choice between two new Swords I can make from EndAmbig.

Do I take Blade of the Red Dust >http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14907< or Wraith's Conqueror? >http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14906< ?

If I take BladeOfTRD, I get -6%Chan at Lv90 itself but there is no opportunity to make a new weapon from it.

If I take Wraith'sConq, I only get -3%Chan but a whole new weapon tree is opened up to me. >http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/15400< And the weapons in the tree do have -6%Chan.


So, which way should I go?

Am I right in having Endless Ambiguity in the first place?

I took it for the -3%Chan :/

Oh, and if anyone is wondering why I have a Sword instead of those 'Glaives' or 'Staves' or what not, it's because Swords are more reliable in their damage output.

Plus they look better ;)
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Don't go with blade of red dust, it's a dead-end and I personally don't think that any of the TT90 gold weaps are worth it, especially since you won't be able to resell them later. If I were you, I'd try to aim for r8 at 100. Right now you have endless ambig, which is good for its lvl, but none of the weaps that it builds into can be used to craft TT99 gold, which would then be used to craft a nirvana weapon. If you don't want to have to go all the way back to an ashura's sign, then r8 is your best choice to aim for. It's cheaper than nirv anyway.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Go with wraith conqueror. It's not a dead end like the gold TT. The gold was worth it when people actually took a decent time to level, now it's not really.

    I personally went with a good fcc gold aquadash at that time and used it until I was 100 for r8 :p
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    |...If I were you, I'd try to aim for r8 at 100...|...then r8 is your best choice to aim for.|
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    |...until I was 100 for r8 :p |

    Okay, guys, maybe I should've mentioned this, but I'm not rich ._.

    I chose these weapons because I can make them with materials I can get through hard work, not money o.o

    R8 takes 200k Rep = 8000 badges = 104mil coins (according to current market price on my server).

    I cannot possibly earn that much in 19 levels :(

    Unless...there's something I do not know about Mystics earning money as they level up :o
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Oh, and what about this?

    ☆☆Sinrabansho    : http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14914
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Oh, and what about this?

    ☆☆Sinrabansho    : http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14914

    Even more expensive than r8 unless you are very, very lucky.

    Just get an Aquadash and start merching to make money for r8.
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  • Brillance - Raging Tide
    Brillance - Raging Tide Posts: 1,643 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    19 levels is a long time for any Mystic that is NOT a FC product. Its good not to level a Mystic fast as its a lot to learn - using the plants, summons & other spells to their best potential takes time.

    The Aquadash IS the best you are going to end up with before level 100 & switching over to R8, and you really do have the time to farm mats for it if you want to.

    If you are 19 levels below 100 right now, I wouldnt really worry about gears that much, unless you want to take the "time & hard work" path to that extreme. The TT90 Acrobatic gear is nice and will open to higher gears if you later choose that route, so they would be good to aim for.

    Once you reach 100 you can start farming your Nirvy gear, which will take a lot of time and is not as cheap as most initially believe.

    Getting 200K rep is not that impossible to farm (for the R8 & possible R8 recast) especially if you start devoting your farming sales and merchanting to that now.

    Once you have the rep the gears are only 1 million coin each. The price jumps when you go for the recast. I'm still using my Acrobatic Armlets & Boots, until I get my husband's wedding candy and can switch to the R8 boots and sleeves. If you dont want to worry about the candies, you can use the TT90 to shoot for the Archangel Boots & Sleeves.

    GL no matter what you deside to do. b:cute

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    I would add that imo, you need to start watching the Auctioneer for your Sage/Demon spells. I would suggest collecting those now, and making them a priority over gears. You will spend a lot of time watching pricing trends but can get them cheap if you keep your eyes peeled.
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    ...get an Aquadash and...
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...gold aquadash at that time and used it until I was 100 for r8 :p
    Brillance - Raging Tide wrote: »
    ...The Aquadash IS the best you are going to end up with before level 100...

    .
    .
    .

    Seriously? o.o

    Aquadash? O.o

    Seriously? The "best" weapon before I get to Lv100 is Aquadash? :/

    Compare:

    ☆Wraith Conquerer
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14906

    ☆Aquadash
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/16100

    You guys are probably recommending that coz of the +M.Atk in Aquadash, but - I now realize I should've mentioned this - I'm a Hybrid Mystic :|

    I'm Lv83 now and I've currently got 78 points in Vit and 300 points in Mag.

    And before any of you start reprimanding me for that, you should know that I've duelled and defeated a Lv95 Demon Blademaster with Deicides, a Lv97 Archer (dunno if Sage/Demon), a Lv98 Sage (I think) Psychic, and a Lv100 Demon Blademaster with Claws :D

    Anyway, the fact that I'm Hybrid makes me lean towards ☆Wraith Conquerer as it has +14~15 Vit instead of the +M.Atk of ☆Aquadash.

    Also, for me to get ☆Aquadash, I need to somehow get ☆Aquaride (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/16099):/

    And besides, ☆Aquadash is a dead end. ☆Wraith Conquerer leads me to ☆Mirage (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14910)

    Which, in my opinion, is better than ☆Inferno-Heaven Ravager:Souless as VoItaire suggested.
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    ...can be used to craft TT99 gold...

    I know TT99 leads into Nirvie Weps but the only 2 (out of the 4 options) that is worth mentioning are ☆☆Aftermath Nirvana (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25973) and ☆☆Counter Destiny Nirvana
     (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25979) because of the -Chan% they have.

    But neither of them are Swords. And besides, to get into that tree, I'd have to get ☆Yaksa (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14904) which is crappy weapon. The one after that is crappy as well.

    Which means I'd be having a crappy weapon all the way 'til I am Lv99 :/

    And also, I don't think I want a Nirvie weapon because of the insane costs involved :/

    And neither will I go past Lv100 :( Once I hit Lv100, I'll probably step back and start with another char. So, there is no point for me to get another weapon when I have a Lv99 weapon.
  • MrMelvin - Heavens Tear
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I would also say Aquadash is better for reaching 100 with. I used ☆Sensoid Emptiness from 85-99 mainly because I supported most squads in this time and the HP adds and -6% chan are really nice but I would switch out to an Aquadash while DD'ing for that extra spike damage. At 99 I used a mixture of ☆Inferno-Heaven Ravager:Souless and ☆Fate Denial: Godspeed but I already had these weapons from an alt.

    I would suggest going to get gold TT99 weapons to get a Nirvana weapon instead of ☆☆Sinrabansho unless you are going to get R8.

    You don't need to get Aquaride to get Aquadash, you can but a frostcovered sign from packs or a kitty shop and manufacture an Aquadash or buy straight from another player.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    We say you should go with an Aquadash because it is the best bang for your buck regardless of build and will last you until you get r8, at which point you just sell off the Aquadash. It should be noted that tt99 gold/green is not end-game anymore and you should be aiming for r8 unless you're wanting a wep to stash between magic classes and then you just go Nirvy.

    And you get it by buying it for like 7-10m off of someone or by getting together 1k of the Past of Frostcovered City items. You can't actually craft it from the green version anymore.
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Sorry, guys, but the end of my earlier reply got cut off somehow. I've edited it, so please read that.
  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Which, in my opinion, is better than ☆Inferno-Heaven Ravager:Souless as VoItaire suggested.



    I know TT99 leads into Nirvie Weps but the only 2 (out of the 4 options) that is worth mentioning are ☆☆Aftermath Nirvana (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25973) and ☆☆Counter Destiny Nirvana
     (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25979) because of the -Chan% they have.

    But neither of them are Swords. And besides, to get into that tree, I'd have to get ☆Yaksa (http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14904) which is crappy weapon. The one after that is crappy as well.

    And also, I don't think I want a Nirvie weapon because of the insane costs involved :/

    You realize that on the exact same page you linked it says that those mag weaps can be crafted from ANY TT99 gold magic weapon. There are no TT99 wands, so yeah... And anyway I only suggested it because of the current weapon path you're going on. As Eoria said, TT99 gold/green are no longer end game, and that's the only thing your current weap could lead to. I really think you should go r8 as well, and it's completely farmable. You don't need Aquaride to get an Aquadash because you can either a, buy it from someone or b, collect 1000 Past of Frostcovered Cities. No one actually crafts it, if you see "Manufactured by..." on it, they made it with a Frostcovered sign from packs. FC no longer drops mats.
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    You realize that on the exact same page you linked it says that those mag weaps can be crafted from ANY TT99 gold magic weapon. There are no TT99 wands, so yeah... And anyway I only suggested it because of the current weapon path you're going on. As Eoria said, TT99 gold/green are no longer end game, and that's the only thing your current weap could lead to. I really think you should go r8 as well, and it's completely farmable. You don't need Aquaride to get an Aquadash because you can either a, buy it from someone or b, collect 1000 Past of Frostcovered Cities. No one actually crafts it, if you see "Manufactured by..." on it, they made it with a Frostcovered sign from packs. FC no longer drops mats.

    I doubt if I will go past Lv100 :/ Once I hit Lv100, I'll probably step back and start with another char. So, there is no point for me to get another weapon when I have a Lv99 weapon.

    Or gear in fact.

    I'll just get the Archangel's (TT99 Gold) set from the Acrobatic (TT90 Green) set.

    Also, ArchA's set is better for -Chan% coz having just the Sleeves and Belt of that set gives you -12%Chan as opposed to the -6%Chan you get from R8.

    So combined with a ring I have, plus a WG-Robe, plus the -Chan% from my wep at Lv99, it'll bring my total -Chan% to 12+6+6+3 = -27%Chan.
  • /eren - Dreamweaver278
    /eren - Dreamweaver278 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    ide also like to point out that luminance order allows you to get large quantities rep extremely cheap for those of us who dont cash the game
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    I doubt if I will go past Lv100 :/ Once I hit Lv100, I'll probably step back and start with another char. So, there is no point for me to get another weapon when I have a Lv99 weapon.

    Or gear in fact.

    I'll just get the Archangel's (TT99 Gold) set from the Acrobatic (TT90 Green) set.

    Also, ArchA's set is better for -Chan% coz having just the Sleeves and Belt of that set gives you -12%Chan as opposed to the -6%Chan you get from R8.

    So combined with a ring I have, plus a WG-Robe, plus the -Chan% from my wep at Lv99, it'll bring my total -Chan% to 12+6+6+3 = -27%Chan.

    ...

    Just do this at 100: http://www.pwcalc.com/ab08298e95fe8733
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  • VoItaire - Harshlands
    VoItaire - Harshlands Posts: 1,033 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    I doubt if I will go past Lv100 :/ Once I hit Lv100, I'll probably step back and start with another char. So, there is no point for me to get another weapon when I have a Lv99 weapon.

    Or gear in fact.

    I'll just get the Archangel's (TT99 Gold) set from the Acrobatic (TT90 Green) set.

    Also, ArchA's set is better for -Chan% coz having just the Sleeves and Belt of that set gives you -12%Chan as opposed to the -6%Chan you get from R8.

    So combined with a ring I have, plus a WG-Robe, plus the -Chan% from my wep at Lv99, it'll bring my total -Chan% to 12+6+6+3 = -27%Chan.

    R8 grants a total of -18% channeling, not to mention one of those pieces is the only chest piece in the game(besides other class rank tops and lower rank tops) that gives any -channel. But if you plan on rolling multiple magic classes, again nirvana is your cheapest option.
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    VoItaire - Harshlands wrote: »
    R8 grants a total of -18% channeling...

    Uhm. No ._.

    http://www.pwcalc.com/470dbe82739528d7
  • MrMelvin - Heavens Tear
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Uhm. No ._.

    http://www.pwcalc.com/470dbe82739528d7

    He means the chest piece, ring and weapon. -6% on each piece and 6x3 = 18. Generally people don't go with the bracers and boots for R8 just those 3 pieces and maybe the pants but they kinda suck.
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    ...

    Just do this at 100: http://www.pwcalc.com/ec92b157bebd4dc2

    I have to say, that is some mouthwatering gear lol.

    But why Acrobatic Pants? :o

    And would you say that this is a better set?

    http://www.pwcalc.com/e53da15ae9e8dbbd

    I understand I'd be compromising on P.Def but Verdant Shell will make up for that. (I know it's still not as good as the P.Def in your set, but the gains in the other fields outweigh this drawback, I'd say :/ )
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    He means the chest piece, ring and weapon. -6% on each piece and 6x3 = 18. Generally people don't go with the bracers and boots for R8 just those 3 pieces and maybe the pants but they kinda suck.

    Aaah. My bad.

    But Eoria's set is AWESOME lol
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    /eren - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ide also like to point out that luminance order allows you to get large quantities rep extremely cheap for those of us who dont cash the game

    :O Really?

    Can you give me more info?
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Okay, I've found out what you're talking about, but I'd like to know how much they cost :O

    This is the info for others' benefit:

    Luminance Jade URL="http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34669"]http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/34669[/URL
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Also, isn't there some Morai gear for Lv95? Does it have a weapon as well?

    What are you guys' opinions on that gear and wep?
  • MrMelvin - Heavens Tear
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear Posts: 388 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    But why Acrobatic Pants? :o

    And would you say that this is a better set?

    http://www.pwcalc.com/e53da15ae9e8dbbd

    I understand I'd be compromising on P.Def but Verdant Shell will make up for that. (I know it's still not as good as the P.Def in your set, but the gains in the other fields outweigh this drawback, I'd say :/ )

    Acrobatic pants obviously for the pdef until/if you decide to make them into TT99 pants to make the Nirvana pants I'm guessing. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that using elemental ornaments are a no no since as a caster you already have high magic defense although I do like the stats which the Arcangel's sash do give but I wouldn't wear it myself.
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Aaah.

    But Eoria's set is AWESOME lol

    Yeah that is a nice set, its similar to mine really except I am all sharded with HP instead of pdef. I have been thinking of switching up some for pdef but since this isn't the final gear I am happy with I don't see a point plus I never really pvp at the moment. Using this x2 to try and farm caster nirvana to switch my gears around a bit.

    http://www.pwcalc.com/96499fb29e3e817c <-- That is my current set up, I get by just fine with it for now
  • gunslot
    gunslot Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Uhm. No ._.

    http://www.pwcalc.com/470dbe82739528d7

    Oh gawd, if you're ignorant, at least don't pretend you know what you're talking about.
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    MrMelvin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ...I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that using elemental ornaments are a no no since as a caster you already have high magic defense although...

    The only elemental ornament I'd have (where you have a protection ornament) is the Archangel's Sash.

    And that is for the -3%Chan, +Mag and +Vit :)

    Not for the M.Def.

    Where you get +10Vit, I get +21Vit. That is 11Vit extra = +110HP.

    You'll probably say you get +150HP extra anyway, but I'm not just getting +110HP, I'm getting an improved HP recovery rate, improved P.Def and improved MP recovery rate (it's hard to believe you get +x MP recovery, but you can check in-game the description of Vitality).
  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    gunslot wrote: »
    Oh gawd, if you're ignorant, at least don't pretend you know what you're talking about.

    Oh gawd, check the rest of the replies before you post a condescending one.

    Someone else already explained what VoItaire was talking about and I do admit I was in the wrong -.-

    Think before you leap, stranger :/

    Take the time to read through all the pages of a thread next time.

    ^ Just some friendly advice -.-
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    I have to say, that is some mouthwatering gear lol.

    But why Acrobatic Pants? :o

    And would you say that this is a better set?

    http://www.pwcalc.com/e53da15ae9e8dbbd

    I understand I'd be compromising on P.Def but Verdant Shell will make up for that. (I know it's still not as good as the P.Def in your set, but the gains in the other fields outweigh this drawback, I'd say :/ )

    No. You need pdef. Verdant Shell is NOT a reason to forsake pdef orns for channel ones (and is also not a reason to shard full cit while we're on this tangent). **** channel orns. You get -36% chan in the build I posted. You honestly really don't need more than that and you can get away with much less easily.

    Also, tt99 pants are terrible until you second recast them. Just stick with tt90 until you get the 250 cannies to recast.

    P.S. Learn how to use the edit button, please.
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    No. You need pdef. Verdant Shell is NOT a reason to forsake pdef orns for channel ones (and is also not a reason to shard full cit while we're on this tangent). **** channel orns. You get -36% chan in the build I posted. You honestly really don't need more than that and you can get away with much less easily.

    Also, tt99 pants are terrible until you second recast them. Just stick with tt90 until you get the 250 cannies to recast.

    P.S. Learn how to use the edit button, please.

    Hmm. Food for thought :o I too consider P.Def very important for squishy arcanes such as myself, don't get me wrong, but I just felt like the -Chan was more important.

    I admit I'm a noob, so could you please explain what a Recast TT99 Archangel's Wrap looks like? Perhaps there's a link to it in the database? The only thing I found which could be made from that particular leggings was Nirvie Sacred Legate Pants. Then again, that could be my noobiness blinding me >.<

    Also, what do you mean "Learn how to use the edit button..."? :o Are you, perhaps, referring to the multiple new replies I wrote instead of writing it all in one reply?
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    t4akacentaur wrote: »
    Hmm. Food for thought :o I too consider P.Def very important for squishy arcanes such as myself, don't get me wrong, but I just felt like the -Chan was more important.

    If you have somewhere in the realm of -24% to -36%, you're fine and don't really need to go higher (and a full r9 mystic will have even less than that and do just fine as well).
    I admit I'm a noob, so could you please explain what a Recast TT99 Archangel's Wrap looks like? Perhaps there's a link to it in the database? The only thing I found which could be made from that particular leggings was Nirvie Sacred Legate Pants. Then again, that could be my noobiness blinding me >.<

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25717
    Also, what do you mean "Learn how to use the edit button..."? :o Are you, perhaps, referring to the multiple new replies I wrote instead of writing it all in one reply?

    There is no need to make five posts in a row. Just edit if need be.
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  • t4akacentaur
    t4akacentaur Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    If you have somewhere in the realm of -24% to -36%, you're fine and don't really need to go higher (and a full r9 mystic will have even less than that and do just fine as well).

    Hmm. Again, food for thought.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/25717

    Aaah.

    There is no need to make five posts in a row. Just edit if need be.

    Noted, sorry >.<


    Thanks for all the advice and help you've given me :)

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