Question about FC Glitch's Current "Solution"

Assuming China is the one who created the "fix", since the CN players don't get to hyper in FC, they probably saw just nerfing the overall dragoon exp as the easiest (i.e. most cost effective) way to go about doing it.

Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »

The logic? The logic was that no one was going to get off their *** for a real fix. This is only PWI's problem because only PWI allows hypers in FCC. As far as anyone else is concerned, goons can give no exp for all they care.

Of course it wasn't the only way of fixing it, but devs were just not going to work on it because it doesn't affect them. All these problems starts from PWI having hypers in FCC in the first place.

This.

But the goon nerf has pretty much taught the PWI community a lesson. "Don't be afriad to use glitches!" Obviously no one gets banned long just for abusing glitches. At the end of it all the ones laughing are the ones who had the balls to abuse it and I'm envious. b:sad

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

Assuming China is the one who created the "fix", since the CN players don't get to hyper in FC, they probably saw just nerfing the overall dragoon exp as the easiest (i.e. most cost effective) way to go about doing it.

This.
And I also think(maybe I'm wrong), but it seems they have whole new programmers and those don't know how to change(fix) the old code, they didn't program it.
It never was fixed old game code from 6+ years old pure PW game. That's why they are unable to fix many old glitches, like in RB delta for instance. They just don't know how to do it.

Or...They can boost the exp for goons again and just stop Styren from spawning goons. I have no idea why no one has proposed this idea before.

Krisnda wrote: »

Too complicated.

I cant recall if she spawns them within a certain time frame or at certain HP (its been a long while since Ive been in a group who didnt skip her), but it probably wouldnt be all that difficult to implement such a fix.

Then again, our current devs dont seem too bright when it comes to handling old code...


(or were you being sarcastic?)

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

I think someone actually did suggest that at one point. Whether or not it could be implemented, I have no idea, but I think someone mentioned that taking away the dragoon spawns would take away the "challenge" of the boss fight. b:surrender

As if any of the bosses in FC are actually hard.

She'd just become as easy as Messenger of Fear... b:surrender

Mind you, Ive been in squads where her Dragoons would kill an inattentive caster or two - specifically, Venos who dont have their pets out to protect them...

I guess Pwi failed to fix that glitch and Pw-Cn too as all they depend on each other. Ok i have a idea change the boss put a new Boss in FC replacing Styren and remove Styren from FC .
Get back dragon exp to normal as it was make sure that the boss is unable to glitch.Think about it .b:victory

There was no fix for the goon glitch after it went public and lasted for so long.

As I saw it, there were a few groups of QQers.
1. I do not have good enough gear to do it myself.
2. The GMs said it was illegal, therefore I will not do it myself.
3. I leveled to 105 without the glitch and now people can do the same (Not 100% sure of)

1 and 2 both did not like the small advantage 105s had over them.
3 is more mad that something that took them a lot of time is now being done much faster.

Now instead of nerfing exp, what would happen if it was made legal?
For group 1: They now have all the time in the world to work on their gear in order to do it themselves. Or could even pay a group to do it for them. If they never did improve their gear, then they are still easy kills for those with better gear that could possible do the glitch, thus the level advantage is negligible.

For group 2: As it is now legal, they can now do it safely and without bad conscience.

Group 3's problem is not solved by this. However, most of this group is made of sins that has a very unfair advantage in frost as they don't have to clear mobs and have faster clear times. In addition there have been past actions that greatly lessened the level achievements of others. For example, the introduction of hypers and being able to use them in frost and also bounty hunter quests. Both of these made leveling a lot easy and level 100 became less special. Goon glitch does the same for level 105. And those that got 105 without the glitch still have that pride and sense of achievement. This group is also very small and honestly their wishes shouldn't affect the entire playerbase.

There may be a fourth group that thinks it shouldn't be that easy; but really now, PWI has been making everything easier for years. Experience should be the least of concerns.

Now nearly everyone is happy, no qqing about people not being banned, and we wouldn't have threads like these several months after the issue was deemed fix. Really not that hard.

Belzeber - Raging Tide wrote: »

Or...They can boost the exp for goons again and just stop Styren from spawning goons. I have no idea why no one has proposed this idea before.

Or replace either the mobs that spawn from the boss or the mobs in the end... Or maybe just make them 2 separate kind of mobs by changing the name and such...

I don't doubt that devs can code, the thing is, they just won't bother spending any effort for PWI when it's only PWI's problem. I don't think devs are that incompetent, as they did pop out with new skills and expansions.

Solutions that I think will keep most people happy

1. Put the glitch back to where it was and allow other people to hit 105.
2. Take away the 15% (I think) more damage that someone at 103+ deals to people 102 and under.

CrusherJam - Dreamweaver wrote: »

why is this still an issue??

its over and done

be proud you didn't cheat to 105 and move on

Because this topic has nothing to do with being able to cheat to 105. This topic is about how their fix for the situation was a punishment to everyone that ran FF, which includes those that didn't abuse the glitch.

I would definitely like to see a change in this. I really enjoyed running full FFs and now nobody will anymore. Even if you start your own squad and advertise "full run" they will all ditch after heads.

Why is it that the last post on every page so far on this thread made by a mod? Conspiracy b:scorn

Edit: No wait....umm...my bad... Q_Q nvm...

Put it back!