Tips on squad healing?

Kyrael - Dreamweaver
Kyrael - Dreamweaver Posts: 140 Arc User
edited March 2012 in Cleric
So, I've started working on my cleric alt a bit lately. My main is an assassin (lv67), and I've seen my fair share of both fail squads and fail clerics. Now, my cleric is starting to near the level where she'll be in instances more often, and I was looking for some advice on keeping any squad alive, even the fail ones.

I know that IH is going to be my main heal on the tank, to keep my eye on the other squad members' health, avoid heal aggro by making sure all mobs have been hit (dead tanks or DDs can be rezzed. Dead clerics go to town.), etc. from my experiences in BHs and whatnot. I'd like to think I'd make a fairly competent cleric in squads from using what I've seen, but are there any other bits of advice you guys have for me? :3

I'm using a pure mag build so far, and may add a tiny bit of vit later on, but I'm not having trouble with survival just yet. A few IHs during mob fights keeps me alive, and I can cyclone and then kite if need be.

Advice for a new cleric? (: I'm looking more for playstyle advice and help in instances rather than the basics, as I've read the guide and whatnot and understood it nicely.
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  • KyyranthoX - Heavens Tear
    KyyranthoX - Heavens Tear Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Max buffs and get party form of them, use them.
    Max IH and Wellspring, both useful.
    Make sure whoever is tanking has attacked all aggroed mobs before healing (or used aggro skill if Barb).
  • Reichle - Sanctuary
    Reichle - Sanctuary Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    yup kyyranthox hit the nail on the head.
    Wellspring is very useful because it heals a good chunk of HP almost instantly, which is great for fail DDs who start aggro ping pong.
    Stream of Rejuvenation also is very good for healing a big chunk of the barb's HP during a boss fight. It's like 4 IHs in one.
    Oh, gettin Holy Path on your genie is also good, in case you die and have to go to town, then walk all the way back through the instance. Clerics are soooo slooowwww....but Holy Path is not really required or necessary...it can be good if a mob sets its sights on you as well...
    Chromatic Heal is good as well, especially in those levels before BB (Rejuvenation Aura) and you have to deal with AOE, or just in a fail squad when everyone decides to grab their own mob instead of letting the barb aggro all (just had one of those yesterday =.=;).
    Also: BEWARE of people who say "heal me" and then rush off. The situation varies, but it's usually not a good idea to heal them for two reasons:
    1. You will most likely get heal aggro.
    2. They will die anyways, especially if it's some kamikaze wiz/sin/psy.
    Okay, I think that's all the knowledge I have for now...
    Oh, for MP management, leveling your apothecary skill to like 2 is good so you can make MP food, or if you have a bit of money laying around, you can get MP charms (I do not recommend an HP charm for a cleric though).
    As for your build...it seems good, but later (around level70) you will need to have your HP around 2k and have higher physical defense (around the same number). So the light vit is good for that. Maybe cap it around 30-60, whichever you're comfortable with.
    Okay, I think that's really all >__<
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    advice: Pay attention to your surroundings (includes monster radar on top right corner and members)
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  • Miisa - Raging Tide
    Miisa - Raging Tide Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    all of the above, +1. b:pleased

    some might disagree with me about this, but don't be afraid to DD in instances. with caution in the early bh's of course, but as you lvl and other people get better at their classes, it gets much easier.

    having a nice purify by the time you get bh51 will make life more tolerable. and on that note...if you're unfamiliar with stuff that some bosses do, like debuffs, DOTs, etc, ask around. i think that's one of the most important qualities of a good cleric. b:thanks
  • Tainte - Lost City
    Tainte - Lost City Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    If in doubt, ask your squad members. I've said multiple times in TT, BH, etc...
    "Hey, sorry for the really stupid question, but _______________________________?"
    People either laugh at me then give advice, or they sympathize and give advice. Either way, i'm not offended b:chuckle

    Another thing is that I've always preferred to watch the squad hp bar in case some squishy stole aggro. Some of them get mighty pissed off if they die. But overall, as big-headed as it sounds, you > most people in your squad. Don't let your pride get in the way of asking for advice in gameplay... and you might need to stack up some vit. Even as a PvE cleric, some bosses' aoes hurt a lot =/
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    learn to use all heals, and also about aggro (link in siggy) so .f.e. u will use slow AoE heal when u really have to , not in 'omg what is going on here' situations, like many confused clers do.. b:chuckle


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  • Nieka - Harshlands
    Nieka - Harshlands Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    run around in circles do as many cartwheels as you possible can heal yourself and act surprised when they all die...it works ya lolz b:chuckle

    but on a serious note lvl your healing skills as fast as you can and learn your 79 skills i know they cost alot of spirit but there well worth it
  • TrueHarmony - Archosaur
    TrueHarmony - Archosaur Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited June 2010
    Really, the best advice i can give is, not everyone can be saved. There have been squads ive been in where say: Im healing a tank and things are going well, then a sin or something decides to run way the hell away from me (like a good 20 seconds of running to get in range)and try to kill their own mobs. I just let them die(they do tend to yell..even though they dont realize that.. its better to keep the tank alive and let some stupid DD die than to try and save the dd and risk the tank getting offed and having the party wiped.

    That being said! lol Max every buff you have, the aoes are great aside from the magic attack one. I mean if you have spare spirit sure but i just pass those out to the mage dd. Maxed wellspring and ih and some points into stream of rejuvenation. Stream is useful for say, you were healing a dd or the secondary tank and you didnt notice another mob latch onto the tank and down his hp. The instant life recovery from stream and its added heal over time really help in situations like that. I use it to correct things if ive been careless or distracted all the timeb:chuckle

    OH and it might sound redundent but second wind rocks. If you have a mob on you or youve taken some damage, but the tank just NEEDS that stream of rejuvi, but your about to die yourself, streal him , wind then ih yourself if the barb hasnt saved you :D
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  • Reichle - Sanctuary
    Reichle - Sanctuary Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited June 2010

    OH and it might sound redundent but second wind rocks. If you have a mob on you or youve taken some damage, but the tank just NEEDS that stream of rejuvi, but your about to die yourself, streal him , wind then ih yourself if the barb hasnt saved you :D

    That doesn't sound at all redundant. Because before the tank and everyone else, you heal yourself. The small pause it takes for you to heal yourself is going to make everyone else in the squad see that you need help and if they are a good squad, at least 1 person will come to your aid. I advise that you save your genie slots for more useful things that you can't otherwise do yourself.
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  • Iyasumi - Raging Tide
    Iyasumi - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    This is a truly great FAQ! i've had a difficult squadding session (due to lack of communication with the other cleric) and was feeling down and out about it, so this really helped me alot! ty for all the effort you and everyone else put into it! b:victory
  • Kanmi - Sanctuary
    Kanmi - Sanctuary Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Wow Necro much ?
  • SxeChik - Archosaur
    SxeChik - Archosaur Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    To me, I use Wellspring Surge when the HP bar of 1 of my squad members goes down 1/3 (because they are losing quite a lot HP, they need to be healed instantly). Then I cast Ironheart Blessing on him/her if they are still being attacked. Repeat the use of Wellspring Surge if Ironheart does not take effect yet. (Make sure they'd already hit the mobs before you healed)

    If too many squad members, say 4 are being hit quite hard at the same time, and all are close together, if you have 2 sparks, set BB for safety b:cute (I did't pay attention to your lvl, so if you're under 59 - the required lvl to get BB, then you can take this as a preparation b:pleased)

    If a barb is tanking boss, and your Ironheart Blessing can't satisfy his tremendous amount of HP needed to be healed, use Stream of Rejuvenation (or Blessing of Purehearted if you're low lvl) then stack a few Ironheart Blessings on him, repeat Stream of Reju./ Blessing Purehearted if needed b:victory

    If you're attacked by boss/ mobs and you cannot stand against them, use Plume Shell and run till someone else in squad kills them. Try not to die at all in a run, it's safer for everyone else in squad b:chuckle

    The worst deal for cleric is we have to run all the way back and revive everyone if squad wiped b:sad
    Insanity b:thanks
  • MareAssassin - Lost City
    MareAssassin - Lost City Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    ... <.< The person above your post just said it was a necro and I say it again:

    Necro.
  • Dawnx_ - Harshlands
    Dawnx_ - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    To me, I use Wellspring Surge when the HP bar of 1 of my squad members goes down 1/3 (because they are losing quite a lot HP, they need to be healed instantly). Then I cast Ironheart Blessing on him/her if they are still being attacked. Repeat the use of Wellspring Surge if Ironheart does not take effect yet. (Make sure they'd already hit the mobs before you healed)

    If too many squad members, say 4 are being hit quite hard at the same time, and all are close together, if you have 2 sparks, set BB for safety b:cute (I did't pay attention to your lvl, so if you're under 59 - the required lvl to get BB, then you can take this as a preparation b:pleased)

    If a barb is tanking boss, and your Ironheart Blessing can't satisfy his tremendous amount of HP needed to be healed, use Stream of Rejuvenation (or Blessing of Purehearted if you're low lvl) then stack a few Ironheart Blessings on him, repeat Stream of Reju./ Blessing Purehearted if needed b:victory

    If you're attacked by boss/ mobs and you cannot stand against them, use Plume Shell and run till someone else in squad kills them. Try not to die at all in a run, it's safer for everyone else in squad b:chuckle

    The worst deal for cleric is we have to run all the way back and revive everyone if squad wiped b:sad

    Using Purehearted to heal a barb tanking a boss lol. It would be better to use Wellspring and then stack IH.

    Edit: Wierd it updated my clerics lvl but not my barbs...
    Dawnx_- 101 Sage Cleric.
    Dawnx- 100 Demon Cleric.
    DawnMyst- 94 Mystic.
    Doom_Panda- 101 R9 Barb 23k HP. :D
    PsychicTuna- 90 Sage Psychic.

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  • DeadRaven - Sanctuary
    DeadRaven - Sanctuary Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Wow Necro much ?

    Maybe she did not happen to notice the date.....just as you did not notice her post count. If you had, you would realize how ignorant your comment was. Look at her forum join date and her number of posts, and one can reasonable speculate that she may not be all that familiar with forum etiquette or has developed the habit that regular forum surfers have of always checking the thread/post date. Maybe try being helpful by pointing out her faux pas instead of trolling. At the very least you would look less of a fool.

    -1 to me for continuing this necro thread b:chuckle
  • SxeChik - Archosaur
    SxeChik - Archosaur Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Using Purehearted to heal a barb tanking a boss lol. It would be better to use Wellspring and then stack IH.

    Edit: Wierd it updated my clerics lvl but not my barbs...

    I wish you had read my words carefully... Didn't you see the words "If you're low lvl" goes after Blessing of Purehearted????? When IH does not take effect yet, you gotta use either Stream of Reju./ Blessing Purehearted if your Wellspring is too weak.

    And I did say "If a barb is tanking boss, and your Ironheart Blessing can't satisfy his tremendous amount of HP needed to be healed, use Stream of Rejuvenation" Please read carefully next time.
    Insanity b:thanks
  • Dawnx_ - Harshlands
    Dawnx_ - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I wish you had read my words carefully... Didn't you see the words "If you're low lvl" goes after Blessing of Purehearted????? When IH does not take effect yet, you gotta use either Stream of Reju./ Blessing Purehearted if your Wellspring is too weak.

    And I did say "If a barb is tanking boss, and your Ironheart Blessing can't satisfy his tremendous amount of HP needed to be healed, use Stream of Rejuvenation" Please read carefully next time.

    How much HP are you thinking the barb has? Wellspring and IH beats Purehearted in channeling time, by the time you get 1 Pure off I can get 1 Wellspring and 2 IH's on the tank which combined heal for more then Purehearted.
    Dawnx_- 101 Sage Cleric.
    Dawnx- 100 Demon Cleric.
    DawnMyst- 94 Mystic.
    Doom_Panda- 101 R9 Barb 23k HP. :D
    PsychicTuna- 90 Sage Psychic.

    PANDAS FTW!!!
  • Kanmi - Sanctuary
    Kanmi - Sanctuary Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Maybe she did not happen to notice the date.....just as you did not notice her post count. If you had, you would realize how ignorant your comment was. Look at her forum join date and her number of posts, and one can reasonable speculate that she may not be all that familiar with forum etiquette or has developed the habit that regular forum surfers have of always checking the thread/post date.

    Since you quote me, i'll reply to you .
    1-To make a 1.5 years, you need to use "search button" which was familiar enough to make them find this thread .
    2-Using common sense helps alot and has nothing to do with post count/the date you decide to finally edit you avatar

    Maybe try being helpful by pointing out her faux pas instead of trolling. At the very least you would look less of a fool.

    I'll be helpful to both of you . Learn2read and see who is trolling and a fool

    b:bye
  • SxeChik - Archosaur
    SxeChik - Archosaur Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    How much HP are you thinking the barb has? Wellspring and IH beats Purehearted in channeling time, by the time you get 1 Pure off I can get 1 Wellspring and 2 IH's on the tank which combined heal for more then Purehearted.

    OMG I just don't know that you really don't get me or what... In some cases, like i said "ironheart CANNOT satisfy the barb enough" and you really need to use blessing purehearted OR stream of reju. *been there done that* (I never said to use Stream Reju/ Blessing Purehearted everytime, just sometimes throw in 1-2 of them to make the barb's hp full, so don't get it wrong.)

    Wellspring is fine, but it only heals a small amount of HP compared to Stream of Reju/ Blessing Purehearted. Of course Blessing Purehearted/ Stream Reju. takes longer time to channel, but it heals MUCH more.
    Insanity b:thanks
  • Dawnx_ - Harshlands
    Dawnx_ - Harshlands Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    OMG I just don't know that you really don't get me or what... In some cases, like i said "ironheart CANNOT satisfy the barb enough" and you really need to use blessing purehearted OR stream of reju. *been there done that* (I never said to use Stream Reju/ Blessing Purehearted everytime, just sometimes throw in 1-2 of them to make the barb's hp full, so don't get it wrong.)

    Wellspring is fine, but it only heals a small amount of HP compared to Stream of Reju/ Blessing Purehearted. Of course Blessing Purehearted/ Stream Reju. takes longer time to channel, but it heals MUCH more.

    I'm not arguing about SoR just Purehearted because SoR is useful unlike Purehearted. IH heals more over time than Purehearted does at all levels if you want a instant heal it would be better to use Wellspring or SoR... And I wonder why the stickied guide says don't level Purehearted past 1... And if you can't keep a barbs HP up with IH then there must be something wrong...
    Dawnx_- 101 Sage Cleric.
    Dawnx- 100 Demon Cleric.
    DawnMyst- 94 Mystic.
    Doom_Panda- 101 R9 Barb 23k HP. :D
    PsychicTuna- 90 Sage Psychic.

    PANDAS FTW!!!
  • SxeChik - Archosaur
    SxeChik - Archosaur Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I'm not arguing about SoR just Purehearted because SoR is useful unlike Purehearted. IH heals more over time than Purehearted does at all levels if you want a instant heal it would be better to use Wellspring or SoR... And I wonder why the stickied guide says don't level Purehearted past 1... And if you can't keep a barbs HP up with IH then there must be something wrong...

    Well, I did say "SoR OR Blessing of Purehearted" and along w "if you are low lvl, use blessing of purehearted", cuz low lvl cannot add points to SoR yet.

    Nothing wrong when IH cannot heal enough. Ever been to 2-2 when u were lvl 89, barb were 89 also? (squad only 2 ppl) IH just could not heal enough!!! Barb charm ticked every min. (This is my personal exp, of course there are others similar exp out there about how IH cannot heal enough at some point)
    Insanity b:thanks