Pro Seekers

LDooMl - Harshlands · March 2012

list the proest seekers on your server... SKILLWISE.

Remember - Raging Tide · March 2012

Raging Tide:

Best geared seeker: Deaths_Door
Best skilled seeker in PK: FourFingers, GhoulKing, So_Sick_Er
Best skilled seeker in TW: Deaths_Door and other rank 9

LDooMl - Harshlands · March 2012

Harshlands;

1.xXZeonXx
2.lDooMl (me)
3. Tegus

we got a bunch of r9 seekers on our server but they arent to special they cant really kill anyone but lowbies and undergeared players.

Eoria - Harshlands · March 2012

LDooMl - Harshlands wrote: »

we got a bunch of r9 seekers on our server but they arent to special they cant really kill anyone but lowbies and undergeared players unless they trip spark and zerk crit

Fixed.

Going to agree that xXZeonXx is pretty much the best seeker on HL though.

X\_Tegus_/X - Harshlands · March 2012

LDooMl - Harshlands wrote: »

Harshlands;

1.xXZeonXx
2.lDooMl (me)
3. Tegus

we got a bunch of r9 seekers on our server but they arent to special they cant really kill anyone but lowbies and undergeared players.

wut is this i dont even..... how did i make it in top 3 for seeker XD ? u knew my seeker? o.o

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2012

none

lankoe · March 2012

TwoHandedAoe no one else comes close to this guy

Pelli - Dreamweaver · March 2012

I don't know that much seekers on DW but I've seen some of Ray_s' feats and I've got to hand it to that guy. He's got either skills, or spent a lot of time on the Boutique.

So, on Dreamweaver, I'd say Ray_s for best seeker.

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver60 · March 2012

idk, most seekers ive seen have mostly been relying on their gears (r9). It rarely happens or hard to see when/whether Skills contributed more than gear. i bet most ppl that people list here are r9. I look at seeker like psychics, both depend some if not most of their abililty to be great at something on their gears. we could say same on all classes but seeker(op wep w. r9 attack lvl /def lvl gear + gemini slash + adrenal) and psychics (soulforce) are more dependant.

hellsurvivor · March 2012

i m not bragging or whatever but i could easily kill rank 9s archers and psychics when my seeker was rank 8 still. Had to rely heavily on apoths though

Andraell - Archosaur · March 2012

There are lots of R9 Seekers in Archosaur server, but only 2 tht i pay attention.

Sympathi and AeonChild

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

On my server-

Sympathi- knowledge wise anyway- one day he need come play the front line, and not the back line of plethora of r9 +12s

Arix$on- only because he is the most humble CS seeker on the server-

Hexalot - Dreamweaver · March 2012

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

On my server-

Sympathi- knowledge wise anyway- one day he need come play the front line, and not the back line of plethora of r9 +12s

Very knowledgeable indeed but based on the last time I looked at his gear on PWcalc (8.6K HP on low refines), there is obviously a very good reason for sticking to the back lines. You aren't going to be tanking anything with so little life for an R9 HA. b:surrender

As far as Dreamweaver is concerned, definitely Ray_s... albeit he's R9 +12 weapon, +10 gear DoT sharded.

I've seen him in West Arch take on two Sins at the same time and win... with one of them being R9+12.

hellsurvivor wrote: »

i m not bragging or whatever but i could easily kill rank 9s archers and psychics when my seeker was rank 8 still. Had to rely heavily on apoths though

"Easily" kill R9 Psy ?

SS or it didn't happen. b:scorn

XXZeonXx - Harshlands · March 2012

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver wrote: »

idk, most seekers ive seen have mostly been relying on their gears (r9). It rarely happens or hard to see when/whether Skills contributed more than gear. i bet most ppl that people list here are r9. I look at seeker like psychics, both depend some if not most of their abililty to be great at something on their gears. we could say same on all classes but seeker(op wep w. r9 attack lvl /def lvl gear + gemini slash + adrenal) and psychics (soulforce) are more dependant.

Seeker is the easiest class to see the difference between skill and gear with.

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

Very knowledgeable indeed but based on the last time I looked at his gear on PWcalc (8.6K HP on low refines), there is obviously a very good reason for sticking to the back lines. You aren't going to be tanking anything with so little life for an R9 HA

No, point is hes never really been in a faction that didnt already have an over abundance of r9s-faceing factions that were way under geared in comparrison- I wasn't commenting on playstyle. If anything we play in tw pretty much same way-

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver62 · March 2012

XXZeonXx - Harshlands wrote: »

Seeker is the easiest class to see the difference between skill and gear with.

Not true, BM & Sins maybe are the easiest class to observe the difference between skill and gear imo. These two classes simply requires more skill to play than gear. If the players of these classes doesnt know how to play their char. even w. r9, they easily go down and its more obvious since there are more people to compare them to.

Seekers style in pvp is very simple. People mostly depends on gemini/spamming skills/auto attack to win in pvp. When do we see a Seeker actually showing skills? when they oneshot people w. gemini? auto attack them to death? or using survival skills?

Any Seeker w. r9 can look good with in pvp, u cant say the same on classes like sins/bm.

between sin and bm though, sin is the easiest to observe skill v gear.

Sympathi - Archosaur · March 2012

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

No, point is hes never really been in a faction that didnt already have an over abundance of r9s-faceing factions that were way under geared in comparrison- I wasn't commenting on playstyle. If anything we play in tw pretty much same way-

Well the only time you've ever fought against me is Nemesis vs. Ascend, both sides having there Full r9 +14's, plus back then you was full rank 9 and i wasn't so thats not really a fare statment.

Also about me being in only rank 9 packed factions;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWFQFI_QYgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ushmZI3uM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbLyeUaJ-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK8_RXocZlE

And as for the "faceing factions that were way under geared in comparrison" Ascend beats Nemesis as much as Nemesis beats Ascend, or at least did before map reset, dosnt sound like them fights were "way under geared in comparrison" again i only had the weapon back then too.

With my build still incomplete, low refines and HP, offensive sharded gems and still unfinished gems i have to play more defensive as my build is based around quick high spiking damage, especially vs certain casters who shall remain nameless already in full rank 9 +whatever jade of stupidly defenses 400 attack levels, personal clerics and mystics, i press F1 you die people in Ascend.

Just thought id defend myself, my play-style and skill (if i have any to be judged on) b:surrender

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

Well the only time you've ever fought against me is Nemesis vs. Ascend, both sides having there Full r9 +14's, plus back then you was full rank 9 and i wasn't so thats not really a fare statment.

Also about me being in only rank 9 packed factions;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWFQFI_QYgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ushmZI3uM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJbLyeUaJ-U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK8_RXocZlE

And as for the "faceing factions that were way under geared in comparrison" Ascend beats Nemesis as much as Nemesis beats Ascend, or at least did before map reset, dosnt sound like them fights were "way under geared in comparrison" again i only had the weapon back then too.

With my build still incomplete, low refines and HP, offensive sharded gems and still unfinished gems i have to play more defensive as my build is based around quick high spiking damage, especially vs certain casters who shall remain nameless already in full rank 9 +whatever jade of stupidly defenses 400 attack levels, personal clerics and mystics, i press F1 you die people in Ascend.

Just thought id defend myself, my play-style and skill (if i have any to be judged on) b:surrender

I knew you would evade the point entirelly- in Nems against any faction equal or lesser you are still behind a wall of r9s- Really no challenge- In boad now- walls or r9s vs smaller lessers numbers, and gear- Get the trend? What I mean by front of the line, is being an actual TW changing factor- not being absorbed in with teh rest of the power... Should try it sometime- its a blast...

Like i said, never attacked your playstyle- Since I chose to stop spending money on an already soon to be obsolete set of gear Ive adapted to playing the same style-

And to add- I use to make Ascend's squads list- you would be amazed how much we really lacked in r9s in comparrison to Nems- Our only upside was the amount of archers we had to mitigate the plethora of r9 mag classes Nems had-

XXZeonXx - Harshlands · March 2012

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Not true, BM & Sins maybe are the easiest class to observe the difference between skill and gear imo. These two classes simply requires more skill to play than gear. If the players of these classes doesnt know how to play their char. even w. r9, they easily go down and its more obvious since there are more people to compare them to.

Seekers style in pvp is very simple. People mostly depends on gemini/spamming skills/auto attack to win in pvp. When do we see a Seeker actually showing skills? when they oneshot people w. gemini? auto attack them to death? or using survival skills?

Any Seeker w. r9 can look good with in pvp, u cant say the same on classes like sins/bm.

between sin and bm though, sin is the easiest to observe skill v gear.

You, like most people, probably haven't seen a good Seeker, then. And the R9 Seekers on our server look like trash because they suck at playing the class. However, we have some non-R9/crappy geared Seekers who are so much better at playing their class that they're considered harder to kill than some of our R9 Seekers are. Once you actually see a good Seeker, you'll definitely be able to tell the difference.

I will agree that skill can make a large difference in a BM compared to other classes.
But I can't see what's so different between a skilled Sin and an idiotic Sin other than self-buffs and stun locks, but neither of those take much effort at all. I honestly thought you were joking about the Sin thing.

lomkoe · March 2012

I can guarantee you guys that as soon as I reach level 30 I will become the legend the legend that you fear I will become a super seeker. BELIEVE IT! b:victory

$oul_Reaver - Archosaur · March 2012

ill d consider only a small minority of pro seekers on the archo server.

NOMINATIONS TOWARDS:

sypathi -because he is a ideal pro seeker on the archo server because he is good in pk, tw and pve. he also know what hes doing on the battlefield.And knows how to play his class.

remakabo- experienced, good in tw and pk . Great survivability and he is a decent seeker. and knows how to play his class.

thats really it from what ive seen...b:byeb:byeb:bye

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver62 · March 2012

You, like most people, probably haven't seen a good Seeker, then. And the R9 Seekers on our server look like trash because they suck at playing the class. However, we have some non-R9/crappy geared Seekers who are so much better at playing their class that they're considered harder to kill than some of our R9 Seekers are. Once you actually see a good Seeker, you'll definitely be able to tell the difference.

I will agree that skill can make a large difference in a BM compared to other classes.
But I can't see what's so different between a skilled Sin and an idiotic Sin other than self-buffs and stun locks, but neither of those take much effort at all. I honestly thought you were joking about the Sin thing.

i think people really underestimates the skill require to play a sin well. Yes the sin class itself have a pretty good advantage over any other class. But I judge sins when they fight other sins and not other class. That's when i usually see who actually knows what theyre doing, and even when fighting other classes its really easy to distinguish who is a skilled sin and who is not. and besides we're talking about distinguishing Gear/Skill. Not the overall difficulty to play the class.

and yes there are no seekers who i can say the best of the class in my server due to their skill and not gear, that's why my response to the OP is i do not know.

Sympathi - Archosaur · March 2012

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

I knew you would evade the point entirelly- in Nems against any faction equal or lesser you are still behind a wall of r9s- Really no challenge- In boad now- walls or r9s vs smaller lessers numbers, and gear- Get the trend? What I mean by front of the line, is being an actual TW changing factor- not being absorbed in with teh rest of the power... Should try it sometime- its a blast...

i still don't get it, look through all my videos and name me any point im "hiding" behind a "wall of r9s" as you put it. Your kind of indicating i should like be leading the charge 1st person in-front of everyone else when i don't have the survivability to back it up

Just because i don't lunge forward as the first to initiate (which BTW you cant exactly claim to be doing too infact in Nemesis vs. Ascend i never see you without either Emap full R9 +12 Psychic of Arix$on full Rank 9 +11 JoSD seeker for people reading this) dosnt meant im doing anything wrong.

I don't know why you would bring up such an argument and this IS you stabbing at my playstyle, because i choose to be more group-sitting because of how im built and your comparing me to a typical heavy geared seeker (Arix$on i bet) who feel they can tank the world.

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

i still don't get it, look through all my videos and name me any point im "hiding" behind a "wall of r9s" as you put it. Your kind of indicating i should like be leading the charge 1st person in-front of everyone else when i don't have the survivability to back it up

Just because i don't lunge forward as the first to initiate (which BTW you cant exactly claim to be doing too infact in Nemesis vs. Ascend i never see you without either Emap full R9 +12 Psychic of Arix$on full Rank 9 +11 JoSD seeker for people reading this) dosnt meant im doing anything wrong.

I don't know why you would bring up such an argument and this IS you stabbing at my playstyle, because i choose to be more group-sitting because of how im built and your comparing me to a typical heavy geared seeker (Arix$on i bet) who feel they can tank the world.

I knew you would evade the point entirelly- in Nems against any faction equal or lesser you are still behind a wall of r9s- Really no challenge- In boad now- walls or r9s vs smaller lessers numbers, and gear- Get the trend? What I mean by front of the line, is being an actual TW changing factor- not being absorbed in with teh rest of the power... Should try it sometime- its a blast...

What part of that don't you get?

Why would I stab at your playstyle? If I fraps me playing you would see we play the same way Don;t believe that, ask my cleric wife that had to totally change her playstyle to fit a suposed HA that is all over the field in every direction- I myself hardely ever push the front line-again, its not a stab at that--

The stab is simple, your skill will never be challenged when buffered with a ton of other r9s as well. you are just buffering eachothers power- You want to challenge your skill? Step out of the safty harness of a ton of other r9s join a 20v50 TW and instead of escaping teh ocassional sin/archer/mag class that managed to get passed the wall of OP players, take on 5+ of them that are ordered to focus on just YOU- now that funs b:victory

FuRinKaZ/N - Dreamweaver64 · March 2012

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

What part of that don't you get?

Why would I stab at your playstyle? If I fraps me playing you would see we play the same way Don;t believe that, ask my cleric wife that had to totally change her playstyle to fit a suposed HA that is all over the field in every direction- I myself hardely ever push the front line-again, its not a stab at that--

The stab is simple, your skill will never be challenged when buffered with a ton of other r9s as well. you are just buffering eachothers power- You want to challenge your skill? Step out of the safty harness of a ton of other r9s join a 20v50 TW and instead of escaping teh ocassional sin/archer/mag class that managed to get passed the wall of OP players, take on 5+ of them that are ordered to focus on just YOU- now that funs b:victory

i think his point is that he is not well geared enough to do what ur asking him to do. No matter how skill the player is, non-r9 vs r9(s), is simply not an even match, therefore not a challenge itself. 1 on 1 maybe but not in group situations. I do see ur point that his overall contribution or overall impact might not be as much as other r9's in his faction but a non-r9 seeker have so many limitations that we can only do so much.

Maelael - Heavens Tear · March 2012

Screen Shotted Proof that Sympathi hides behind a wall of R9s:

http://tinypic.com/r/29v9jn/5

But, if he did admit to hiding behind a wall of R9s:

A. Good for him taking advantage of that while using ranged attacks.
B. HES USING RANGED ATTACKS. Of course theres other people running up to get in melee range.

Really, I'm still at the point of ignoring Seekers in TW unless they're pulling a cata or debuffed/last (wo)man standing. They really don't do enough damage or crowd control to be a big factor.

However, that may contribute to not facing a lot of Seekers built for TW.

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

Gawd- its not about the playstyle- its about how little to no risk you would face at having your skill challenged when in a team full f R9s-

Another words- go take that playstyle, and try it where you would actually see its effectivness- I am not talking about WHERE in teh TW they are fighting, I'm talking about the bigger picture-

Sympathi - Archosaur · March 2012

Maelael - Heavens Tear wrote: »

But, if he did admit to hiding behind a wall of R9s

Its this word "Hiding" that im really trying to put Emphasis on it make it sound like im expecting others to keep me from not dying whilst killing when i don't, when i see a chance to Gemini Slash i take it, im not the aggressive perm staying out in your face player.

But then i ask, who would honestly not run back to there guild side in TW when your being targeted. b:surrender

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

Gawd- its not about the playstyle- its about how little to no risk you would face at having your skill challenged when in a team full f R9s-

Another words- go take that playstyle, and try it where you would actually see its effectivness- I am not talking about WHERE in teh TW they are fighting, I'm talking about the bigger picture-

What exactly would i test by playing more aggressive with my playstyle, in TW there are no one vs. ones (without including assassins) its literally vent calling targets. When i get targeted, i damn get targeted. Regardless of who im around or "hiding" behind im going to die thats because that wall of rank 9's im with, if being nuked by other rank 9's and it sure as hell dosnt stay a wall for long.

All im really trying to say is, my style is spike nuking groups before yes, running away. My shards, build and gear all support this and its how i play my Seeker. You can have your opinions on how that looks for you but for me it works, i get kills and i die less then i should b:surrender

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

gawd dude- im not talking about how you friggin play in TW -im talking about how your skill is never challenged, because you are just absorbed in with the mass of other OP players-

Another words- you are always joining the winning team- you really want to test your skill and fraps somthing worth watching, leave BOAD join some faction that will actually bring a TW where you have no choice but to use every skill on the books, because they WILL be in your face-

As long as you follow factions that have more OP people than god- you will always just run in gemeni, and run out- repeat and wash-

You join a faction that has lesser than most in numbers or in gear- you will be forced to utilize everything-

Sympathi - Archosaur · March 2012

ReMakaBo - Archosaur wrote: »

gawd dude- im not talking about how you friggin play in TW -im talking about how your skill is never challenged, because you are just absorbed in with the mass of other OP players-

Another words- you are always joining the winning team- you really want to test your skill and fraps somthing worth watching, leave BOAD join some faction that will actually bring a TW where you have no choice but to use every skill on the books, because they WILL be in your face-

As long as you follow factions that have more OP people than god- you will always just run in gemeni, and run out- repeat and wash-

You join a faction that has lesser than most in numbers or in gear- you will be forced to utilize everything-

so.. your saying uuh, ditch what i geared up, leveled up and spent most of my time planning and doing for the past few months to join some lowbe faction to prove something to.. who again?

I see the point your getting at now but your also adding in the condition that everyone else is also dragged down by the typical R9 Zerge that is TW, sure any player could show they have skill by ditching and tanking a bunch of lowbes in a meaningless TW elsewhere but its more or less pointless, cant tell me you don't have fun during ascend vs nemesis right?

ReMakaBo - Archosaur · March 2012

cant tell me you don't have fun during ascend vs nemesis right?

They were----mundane-- at times. My skills have been challenged 10 folds more in the past 3-4 weeks, then the 5ish months I was in Ascend- In Ascend it was run in Gemeni run out- much like your playstyle you keep thinking im dumping on... and basically do this till cursed or someone nukes the **** out of me-- In the TWs im having now least i'm practicing what i preach in regards to a TW seeker-

I heard BOAD went to shiet this week now anyway? Try what I say youll enjoy it-

join some lowbe faction to prove something to.. who again?

Prob yourself- I mean you spend countless hours editting videos, and reading, reserching the class to prove to the rest of PWI that you know how to play. Why not put that to the test to its max potential?

so.. your saying uuh, ditch what i geared up, leveled up and spent most of my time planning and doing for the past few months

But sorry, didn't know you had always planned to run to the best of the best winning factions and hide behind their already existing power- Guess I should listen to other peoples perspective of you as a player-

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