steal aggro and die steal aggro and die, steal aggro and DIE!!! WTF!!!?

Demon_troll - Harshlands
Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
edited April 2012 in Archer
no matter what ****ing class even a damn sin in squad i am with i get ****ed up with aggro in bh that's a bunch of bull **** of me stealing aggro and die it is not matter what i ****ing do is this gold 69 weapon a cursed weapon, all i do is spam auto attack and spark... how the **** could i steal aggro from EVERYONE even when i just revive, it is not fair!!!
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  • Demon_troll - Harshlands
    Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    winds and clouds are what i use ... the sling shot have some aggro thing going on or what?
  • ArkSama - Raging Tide
    ArkSama - Raging Tide Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    then don't spark , as simple as that .. in my sin i usually use Cod in order not to steal aggro

    edit : + wait for the barb to take aggro first =)
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  • Belzeber - Raging Tide
    Belzeber - Raging Tide Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    You're an archer. You have to learn to deal with that kind of stuff because you'll do a crapton of damage compared to the other classes of your level. Try sticking to just using skills, especially the slow channeling ones, to avoid taking aggro but only AFTER everyone else has really begun to take it down, otherwise you'll just take aggro again.
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  • Demon_troll - Harshlands
    Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    ArkSama - Raging Tide wrote: »
    then don't spark , as simple as that .. in my sin i usually use Cod in order not to steal aggro

    is it because i do 12k dmg per hit? i even use low lvl rings and still aggro... i scared if i get higher lvl rings i would steal aggro even without spark anyway :(
  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited March 2012
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  • Demon_troll - Harshlands
    Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Belzeber - Raging Tide wrote: »
    You're an archer. You have to learn to deal with that kind of stuff because you'll do a crapton of damage compared to the other classes of your level. Try sticking to just using skills, especially the slow channeling ones, to avoid taking aggro but only AFTER everyone else has really begun to take it down, otherwise you'll just take aggro again.

    take aim may help with not taking aggro
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Ohhhhhh you're back , good , now get lost. .................
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  • Heshua - Sanctuary
    Heshua - Sanctuary Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Try whispering soothing words to mobs and bosses (maybe let them know it's not personal or anything) so they don't get mad. Otherwise try attacking with your slingshot in the opposite hand, space out your attacks, let the tank get aggro etc etc.
  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Stop being so ugly the mobs want to kill you more than anything else.
  • NestFreemark - Raging Tide
    NestFreemark - Raging Tide Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    What you need to do besides timing your attacks is use a lower level bow. Keep your high level bow for quests and grinding and all that critical goodness.
  • AirialAce - Raging Tide
    AirialAce - Raging Tide Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    you just need to controll your critting streaks.
    i always used lvl 69 sling or tt-80 gold bow in there.

    just a note...i died a lot in there and even can hold responsible for squad wipes bec i was too careless about controlling my power before i learned to controll it.

    you don't have something like the sins have so just take breaks between hits(especially if you crit 2 or 3 times in a row),
    that mostly gives (i asume barb is tanking) the tank time to hold on to agro.

    as for sparking,sorry, just not spark at all unless you have a lvl 100+ barb or sin tanking.
    having fists/claws also works on bosses like pyro.
  • Yin - Momaganon
    Yin - Momaganon Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Agro control should be basic things to learn when playing DD class. (Before you are geared up enough to stand hits)
  • Riverwell - Archosaur
    Riverwell - Archosaur Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    AirialAce - Raging Tide wrote: »
    you just need to controll your critting streaks.
    i always used lvl 69 sling or tt-80 gold bow in there.

    just a note...i died a lot in there and even can hold responsible for squad wipes bec i was too careless about controlling my power before i learned to controll it.

    you don't have something like the sins have so just take breaks between hits(especially if you crit 2 or 3 times in a row),
    that mostly gives (i asume barb is tanking) the tank time to hold on to agro.

    as for sparking,sorry, just not spark at all unless you have a lvl 100+ barb or sin tanking.
    having fists/claws also works on bosses like pyro.

    This is pretty much sound advice. A good DD will ride the line between stealing aggro and dealing damage (since, ya know, it's our job), but that means it's easy to steal aggro accidentally with a couple crits, and with archers that happens a lot. So if you think you're on the verge of stealing aggro, back off and take a breather.

    Spark adds a lot of damage. Don't spark unless you know the tank can hold aggro. There's no set formula for when you should attack and with what. You just tend to get a feel for it. Practice, practice, practice. It will also vary from squad to squad.

    Pay attention on the way to the boss. If you're stealing aggro more then you usually do while killing mobs, then you're going to want to take a bit more caution while fighting the boss.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Why does anyone even take this fail troll serious... xD
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Bleh....named himself a troll....Fail troll fails...


    But for any actual archer with this issue...here is a tip: Wait 2-3 minutes (or at least 300k hp) before attacking the boss. Usually by this time the aggro is established to a single person and issue is solved.
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  • I_Snipe - Lost City
    I_Snipe - Lost City Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Why does anyone even take this fail troll serious... xD

    i'm surprised he still exists...
  • Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear
    Phoenix_Eye - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,681 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    I_Snipe - Lost City wrote: »
    i'm surprised he still exists...

    Trolls never die
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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    truekossy wrote: »
    Stop being so ugly the mobs want to kill you more than anything else.

    This is clearly the solution. Remember, makeover scrolls are in the DQ points list :D
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    You need to blame the cleric if you died. It's clearly their fault.
  • SpazzMcAps - Harshlands
    SpazzMcAps - Harshlands Posts: 2,561 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis wrote: »
    http://qkme.me/36knmm

    that was funny. @op put on a pair of dual swords and switch to arcane armor build. easy
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Barb aggro skills really come online at 7x and that is when they can hold aggro the best. After that, archer damage output typically overtakes their aggro holding ability. I used to have to use frenzy pills and spark as soon as possible to play aggro steal from barbs. Lol
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  • Anfisa - Lost City
    Anfisa - Lost City Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Barb aggro skills really come online at 7x and that is when they can hold aggro the best. After that, archer damage output typically overtakes their aggro holding ability. I used to have to use frenzy pills and spark as soon as possible to play aggro steal from barbs. Lol
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  • Irdis - Sanctuary
    Irdis - Sanctuary Posts: 152 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    dont be a pure dex archer if you dont want to bother with aggro control?
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  • DarkMarch - Lost City
    DarkMarch - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    The tankers must be the ones that draw the most aggro, and certainly, that means archers must control their DPS. You shouldnt be sparking at all in a boss fight if the tanker is a barbs or a bm who's around the same level as u. (My experiences tells me that they arent good at holding aggro at this level yet.)


    Learn to watch how much damage your squad members are doing. At this point, archers easily out-DPS most melee tankers. Sometimes, u might even need to stop attacking after u see yourself doing a few critical in a row.

    When u see the boss coming after u instead during a fight, that certainly is a red light lit asking u to stop. Started poting, and cast winged shell and stand still so your squad can draw back the aggro from u.


    Been in a squad with 3archers (including me) for bh. Went disastrous as each archer hits a different mob. b:chuckle


    The role for archers in such fights is to be the best DD, yet not draw aggro. That kind of means holding back on skills, but as long as it gets the job done, u have fulfilled your role in the squad.
  • Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited March 2012
    Guys stop.
    He's a regular forum troll.
    He's not even being serious lol
    He used to have a troll face sig but i guess he removed it
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  • Demon_troll - Harshlands
    Demon_troll - Harshlands Posts: 622 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Lelouchvi_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    He's not even being serious lol

    i was being serious... what about mumintroll? i'm demon_troll and people call me a troll, but not mumintroll maybe?? and she reply to a thread if i remember... i learned to control my damage now thx to the advices given

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