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Sheswes - Heavens Tear wrote: »

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Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Warnings: Walls of text; rage; juicy drama; bored procrastinating college student ranting





You like my font? You shouldn't use it you know, cuz I consider it mine. It's my font. It's MY rage font. Yea, that's right.

I really hate to feed more Enrage drama to the trolls around here, but I don't really have a choice seeing as how you made that post at me and then banned me from the forums before I could even read it. What was the point of doing that? To spread more slander about me that you don't want me to correct? So you can have the last say?

Well, let's get cracking...

First, I don't see how the fact that I PMed Anne my password after I got sick of waiting for you to get your *** off PWV affects what I said about you avoiding me for 1.5 days. Anne was in the hospital, which I did not know, and for that I am sorry I called her out for avoiding me when that was happening on her end. However, what exactly is contradicting between me PMing Anne my password when I was done waiting, and the fact that none of you even tried to talk to me about the forums while I was waiting? Is there actually a point to that part of your post besides just raging and/or showing everyone how unreasonable and ridiculous you've become? Does anyone else see why I can't both wait for officers to talk to me while they're avoiding me AND send only Anne my password after I stopped waiting? Seriously, now I'm paranoid that there's a paradox here I'm not aware of.


No, I am done with YOUR bull. That is one of the MANY reasons I left Enrage, but it was a pretty big one. I was tired of the way you put absurd things in other people's mouths, accuse them of absurd things that everyone including you should know better than to believe, accuse them of absurd things in general, 'defend' yourself from attacks that nobody made, etc. etc. etc. This isn't even NEW. This has been going on and off for AGES. And as for what you're referring to about what I said...I never went back on anything I said. I only elaborated on ONE thing: that I said I was PMing other members, not officers. I don't see why this is so hard to believe; in fact I was probably careless with the wording because I thought it was obvious what I was talking about. I mean, HOW can you possibly interpret what I said to mean I was PMing officers WHEN NO OFFICERS WERE ONLINE? ISN'T IT OBVIOUS I WAS PMing OTHER MEMBERS? I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD READ WHAT I SAID AS I WAS PMING OFFICERS WHEN NO OFFICERS WERE ONLINE FOR ME TO PM????? LOL????

It is impossible for YOU to talk to me in a rational way, because you have a difficult time being rational in general these days. Plenty of people have succeeded in talking to me, but that's because they tried to talk to me in the first place. I don't see why you have the grounds to accuse me of not being able to talk rationally when the only attempts you've made at communicating with me was biitching at me and about me on the forums. Most of all however, I find it highly ironic and hilarious that you of all people are accusing someone else of being impossible to talk to.

I was asked in January ABOUT passing ownership of the forums. I explained to Anne at the time that it is impossible to do so without giving her my account (and I'm so sick of repeating that). She said to me that she didn't want me to lose my account when I wasn't leaving, so it didn't happen. If saying that was SOMEHOW supposed to mean "give me your account now Aes," I didn't see it, and I think if I misconstrue'd Anne's words at the time she would have corrected me. Nowhere did Anne say she wanted me to give up my account, and from what I've seen of Anne as leader, if she wanted my account and I missed it somehow, she would have made that more clear if I didn't hand it over to her. As it were, I gave her the password to my account anyways at that time, and she did not do anything to my account in the whole two months she's had it (since you're so kind to point out that it was TWO MONTHS ago). Now, what I find CREEPY about this whole thing is you seem to think you know more about that private exchange of PMs between Anne and me than I do. But anyways, no, I did not have two months to hand them over, I waited 1.5 days as I said. If you insist that I had two months, then by that same logic we should conclude that Anne had two months to change my information. BUT AS I SAID, I interpreted our exchange to mean that we'll talk about it if I ever left, and NOTHING Anne said indicated I interpreted wrong.

Did you even READ the "****" you pasted? It has more to do with making sure the old founder's personal information and IP are properly deleted from the forums. Like 10 words of it have anything to do with the actual transfer of ownership, and what those 10 words said, I ALREADY KNOW, and I already told Anne, and I already explained on the forum in my very long sarcastic rant about the transfer of forums. I obviously do not know more about the forums than developers of those forums, but I know how to read, and I read that on the help site they are reminding you how to make sure the old founders' personal information is thoroughly deleted, which I don't care about cuz hey you have my IP and email already anyways. You even took away my spreadsheet rights so even if I wanted to delete my personal info I can't even delete my email off the spreadsheets. Apparently you are even privvy to my private PMs to Anne, so I don't see what I possibly have on that account you can get that you don't already have, so why do I need to delete my posts, etc. etc. etc. to hide all that shet? The ONLY part necessary to the transfer of ownership is for someone with my password to go into my account and change my information (INCLUDING EMAIL SO I CAN'T SEND FOR A NEW ONE DUH) so I can't log into it anymore.




I sent you a reply in PMs about my responses to more personal parts of this post Anne. However, I feel I should make it clear to everyone else:



Q: How long have we asked for the forums from you?
A: Um, never. Even on Saturday when I said I was going to leave, I VOLUNTEERED the forums to you. You did not ask for it. No one asked for it. I VOLUNTEERED TO GIVE YOU AND ENRAGE SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME. And you wonder why I am so god damn pissed that Zaph keeps spreading shet about me refusing to give up the forums.

Q: How long ago did zaphy give you the full information on how to turn it over to me so that my account would be owner?
A: Never. Zaph, as I said, NEVER contacted me, PM or otherwise, about the transfer of forums, and I find it DISTURBING that not only does she act like she knows more about my private messages than I do, EVEN YOU think she was the one who sent me the link. Was she on your account impersonating you?

Q: When did you ever once try to contact me since our meeting on Saturday? Seeing as how I've posted numerous times that all you have to do is forum msg me to get a response.
A: I said in vent that I was busy Saturday, and that I'd give you the forums later but I would before I leave. I did not find you AT ALL Sunday, which you later explained that it was because you were at the hospital. That is fine and as I said I apologize for calling you out for avoiding me, but at the same time, if that is true then you don't have any grounds to say I did not try to contact you. If you were not available, then how do you know whether I tried to contact you or not? I find that this post contradicts what you said about you being in the hospital and being unavailable. Once again, I ask, is Zaph on your account impersonating you? Because seriously, it's wrong of you to call me out about not trying to contact you if you weren't even there.

But the short answer? ALL DAY SUNDAY AND MOST OF MONDAY.

Q: Turning over just the password isn't good enough. It still allows you access. We had this discussion months ago.
A: I've explained to you in January that transfer of root admin can only be done by transfer of account. If in our conversation you wanted my account then you should have asked for it in a straight forward manner like I would expect of you. I also expect, that if I did not catch a less-direct wording of your request, that you would not wait two months for this shet to happen before telling me that you wanted my account all along. And of course as I mentioned, I GAVE YOU MY PASSWORD back then too. So you'll excuse me if I do not accept any of this bull about how I was supposed to pass the forums to someone 2 months ago, or any of this bull that my password is not good enough. If you were not here to tell me what you want me to change or what you want me to help you with, then what did you expect me to do when I was done waiting, other than give you the means to change whatever you wanted (my password)? What else would you ask me to do? Change the password for you myself? That would defeat the point since I would still know the password....There was NOTHING more I could have done without someone talking to me, and NONE of you, for whatever reason, came to talk to me.



Have fun trolls.

Add: Thanks greeny

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You hate me, so you should be happy that I'm angry. Unless you just hated me because I'm Enrage and you sadface for me now that I left. Little do you know however that I am still more Enrage than like 90% of the people left wearing that tag. b:laugh

Thehate - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hi 5!

AshenSkies - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I just find it funny that people still think they can carry the Enrage tag over their head with pride when NO ONE, that's right let me say it again for whoever thinks they are Enrage, NO ONE in Enrage is "Enrage" now.

To be honest, the old Enrage died a ****ing age ago and the last true Enrage person just left the guild. I think this speaks ****loads about the current leadership. Zaph failed in PWI so she went to PWV to what? Fail again? As far as I know half of the people who could actually pk on PWV and who were in Enrage just left to join Sync.

No offense Anne, but whoever passed lead to you(Mystic) just ****ed over Enrage mightily. Then whoever gave someone who had left Enrage to join Radiance then rejoined Enrage a leadership position, just ****ed Enrage over even more.

None of you people deserve the tag above your heads anymore, and I find it shameful that you all think you do.

/endrantfromnonfactor

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Hi Surreal

There's still some old Enrage left in the faction. Matro and Sefie, Evanera, thehate, Pie, Marin, Pacha, etc. are still there. And DEATHJOKER and dw! dw is first on the faction list by join order XD I was 4th when I left...


To be fair, I don't think Anne was a poor choice or a poor leader. She had her weaknesses but also her strengths, and I respected her for them. I'd say that respect was earned, not freely given due to title. I cannot say I was unhappy serving as her Executor until these last few weeks/months when everyone was burnt out and/or bored. Even though I disagree with some of the things said and done by her and her officers recently, I can find it in myself to understand her reasons.

As for the person who once left Enrage to be in Radiance and then joined Enrage again, she was a meticulous and dedicated officer. Perhaps too much so, because I believe it made her snap. She turned on the people she once got along great with, not just me but others as well. Despite my mean posts, I do hope that she calms down in the end and goes back to being the person I liked to hang out with waaaaay back when Enrage was a fresh name and level 90 was high level.