Morai armor and weapons. Any point in them ?

klystron
klystron Posts: 31 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Dawnglory (EU)
Ok so we have new armor but the base specs are lower than the equivalent TT armor same goes for weapons. Ok armor has warding a percentage increase in def and weapon slaying a percentage increase in attack. but slaying and warding have no affect against players so both weapon and armor are useless against a player who decides to pk you.So what you supposed to do when someone tries to pk you say "wait while i change armor" i think not. While the new gear might be fine on PvE servers its pretty much useless on PvP servers unless your always in SZ plus it cost between 5 and 10 mill per piece of gear. Seems to me this has not been thought out properly.
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  • izzyhalsall
    izzyhalsall Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    First of all, please look at the ACTUAL g15 armour.
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33947
    That is the gear that costs money.
    Refine wise, and stat wise, its a reasonable PvE version of R8.

    Secondly, the majority of new skills are PvP, but do you see any of the PvE servers (there are more of these then PvP servers btw...) complaining they dont get cool new skills?

    Finally, this gear gives an impressive damage PvE, which is how its designed. All the people that run caster NV, or frost or Bh100 would benefit more from using
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33533 g15 wizard wep
    than
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/12647 r8 wizard wep.

    EDIT.
    g15 PvE max damage - 1016 with (a bit below) +60% extra damage (i know slayer +45 gives +39% damage). So call it 1016 x 1.50 (seems fair?). = 1524 damage against mobs (and 1016 damage against players)
    with +12 it gives ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 = 2986.5.

    r8 max damage = 1481 (ignoring the +130 max damage because we ignored the idea that the PvE wep could have +max damage stats).
    r8 +12 = 1481+975 = 2456.

    ALSO! Slayer is not ADDED to attack level, 30 slayer and 30 atk doesnt equal +60% damage. They are multiplied. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 (+69% damage)
    So r8+12 and jones blessing gives = 2456 * 1.3 = 3192.8

    BUT HERES THE FUN THING!
    g15 PvE +12, and jones. becomes
    ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 * 1.3 = 3882.45.
    If you want to PvP with this weapon, expect its attack to be (1016+975) * 1.3 = 2588.3
  • Agorey - Harshlands
    Agorey - Harshlands Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    plz tell me... why go for pve gear on a pvp server?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • John_Smith - Harshlands
    John_Smith - Harshlands Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Because some of us do both.

    I know I'm interested in at least some of the available kit. Specifically daggers for my sin since I don't PvP on her.
    I've quit excluding TW for my faction. But I still hang around to help out those who still enjoy the game under PWEs horrific handling and to have fun in the forums. b:cute
    #Shame about PWEs absolutely craptastic handling of the goons glitching. Remember kids, there's no punishment for breaking the rules here!#
    If you make a valid complaint, your thread will disapear. Don't post it here, post it on other sites where PW can't hide it.
  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Agorey - Harshlands wrote: »
    plz tell me... why go for pve gear on a pvp server?

    Because it looks pretty!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    "subtraction has the butt of an angel" - Paulrogers
    I <3 Subtraction.
    /blatant sig copy is blatant

    105/105/105 obtained! b:cute
  • Longknife - Harshlands
    Longknife - Harshlands Posts: 4,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    izzyhalsall wrote: »
    First of all, please look at the ACTUAL g15 armour.
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33947
    That is the gear that costs money.
    Refine wise, and stat wise, its a reasonable PvE version of R8.

    Secondly, the majority of new skills are PvP, but do you see any of the PvE servers (there are more of these then PvP servers btw...) complaining they dont get cool new skills?

    Finally, this gear gives an impressive damage PvE, which is how its designed. All the people that run caster NV, or frost or Bh100 would benefit more from using
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/33533 g15 wizard wep
    than
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/12647 r8 wizard wep.

    EDIT.
    g15 PvE max damage - 1016 with (a bit below) +60% extra damage (i know slayer +45 gives +39% damage). So call it 1016 x 1.50 (seems fair?). = 1524 damage against mobs (and 1016 damage against players)
    with +12 it gives ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 = 2986.5.

    r8 max damage = 1481 (ignoring the +130 max damage because we ignored the idea that the PvE wep could have +max damage stats).
    r8 +12 = 1481+975 = 2456.

    ALSO! Slayer is not ADDED to attack level, 30 slayer and 30 atk doesnt equal +60% damage. They are multiplied. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 (+69% damage)
    So r8+12 and jones blessing gives = 2456 * 1.3 = 3192.8

    BUT HERES THE FUN THING!
    g15 PvE +12, and jones. becomes
    ( 1016+975 ) * 1.5 * 1.3 = 3882.45.
    If you want to PvP with this weapon, expect its attack to be (1016+975) * 1.3 = 2588.3


    So it's trash, is what you're saying?
    I <3 AGOREY
  • Agorey - Harshlands
    Agorey - Harshlands Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Eoria - Harshlands wrote: »
    Because it looks pretty!
    yes they do b:thanks i think thats the only reason why i got it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • _Angelina_ - Harshlands
    _Angelina_ - Harshlands Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    soooo........

    wear it instead of fash..? b:question

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