wake up devolpers and lean what you doing!!!

Lion/age - Lost City11
Lion/age - Lost City11 Posts: 1 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Support Desk
ok I just spent 12 hours downloading a game a rarely play and now it is saying it needs direct x9 installed on a system that is running direct x 11... well as you can imagine I have uninstalled the game and will not be telling anyone to try it out.


I really wish the people behind the game would learn what they are doing and not try to shove **** at us that we as end users know that it was never tested or tried at all to any extent...

I know I am not the only one that feels this way and is why this game has been dieing for some time now and after seeing what is on horizon will most likely die completely this year due to better games coming out..

sorry pwi you keep failing and the users are over it...
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  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Yeh pwi really dropped the ball on this one, they must consider a comp with Win7 on it to be "old"

    I can offer some help at least (better than the stupid sticky thread and its broken DX9 installer).
    Take a look at my other post:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=16187671&postcount=214
    Semi-retired due to continuing mind boggling displays of stupidity from PWI
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited February 2012
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    ok I just spent 12 hours downloading a game a rarely play and now it is saying it needs direct x9 installed on a system that is running direct x 11... well as you can imagine I have uninstalled the game and will not be telling anyone to try it out.

    I really wish the people behind the game would learn what they are doing and not try to shove **** at us that we as end users know that it was never tested or tried at all to any extent...

    I know I am not the only one that feels this way and is why this game has been dieing for some time now and after seeing what is on horizon will most likely die completely this year due to better games coming out..

    sorry pwi you keep failing and the users are over it...
    That's no fault to PWI. I spent a mere 8 minutes downloading it. Manual took under 30 minutes to download and install, while auto took 6 hours on the same system with the same internet. There were several sticky threads stating that auto would take forever and you should use manual. History has also shown that this is the case with big patches. So it's all on you, not PWE.

    They spent well over 6 months testing the things that were released in this expansion. Some of it has been on the beta test servers for over a year. So far the only real "problems" with the patch are with users that no longer meet the minimum system requirements because PW updated the core of the client to meet standards that were new 10 years ago.
    Yeh pwi really dropped the ball on this one, they must consider a comp with Win7 on it to be "old"

    I can offer some help at least (better than the stupid sticky thread and its broken DX9 installer).
    Take a look at my other post:
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=16187671&postcount=214
    Again, with what I said above. They updated the client to meet standards from 10 years ago. We're talking windows XP, DX9.0c, and Pixel Shader 2.0. Any PC that does not meet those standards should have been replaced 5-6 years ago (by industry standards), or at least updated to remain close to current. Again, this is on the user, not PW.


    So just to review.... The Developers know exactly what they are doing. The only ones dropping the ball are users that choose the hard path, or don't bother to keep their system updated to industry standards from 10 years ago.
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  • Nightmare/ - Harshlands19
    Nightmare/ - Harshlands19 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    They spent well over 6 months testing the things that were released in this expansion. Some of it has been on the beta test servers for over a year. So far the only real "problems" with the patch are with users that no longer meet the minimum system requirements because PW updated the core of the client to meet standards that were new 10 years ago.

    This is not entirely true as u see what he stated he has dx11 and i myself have had to help many other friends fix this problem where the game is seeing dx11 is a problem,To my understand dx 11 is higher and does support better things and they only recently updated to 9.c.This is not on user side prblems its got to do with game engine,ive had some friends that have actually had to redownload thier dx becoz game is showin up as 11 is a problem
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited February 2012
    Not all DX11 installs are the same. Many have left out the DX9.0c codecs because it is no longer used in mainstream systems.

    Additionally, many games that you install, install their own flavor of DirectX, which will write over your previous version. Again, leaving out dll and codecs that are not necessary to play their game, yet may remove codecs and dll's that are necessary for others.

    The maintenance of this is on the user, not the game developer.
    DX11 isn't the problem, the fact that you, (or your friends), do not that the 9.0c dll's installed is.

    DX9.0c is an outdated standard, yet they have "upgraded" the client to meet it. It kind of makes you wonder what DirectX standard the client was using before if it wasn't using one that is already 10 years old.
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  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Again, with what I said above. They updated the client to meet standards from 10 years ago. We're talking windows XP, DX9.0c, and Pixel Shader 2.0. Any PC that does not meet those standards should have been replaced 5-6 years ago (by industry standards), or at least updated to remain close to current. Again, this is on the user, not PW.

    Uh Sylen...these comps have been updated. It's called DX10 and 11?

    We're talking about 2-3 year old computers here, not ancient monsters with big CRT screens and a whopping 512mb ram.

    And again, a lot of people are experiencing these problems on *WINDOWS 7*
    Windows 7 didn't even exist 5-6 years ago.
    Not all DX11 installs are the same. Many have left out the DX9.0c codecs because it is no longer used in mainstream systems.

    And you just shot yourself in the foot right there. It's PWI that's using the old outdated ****, not us. If they insist on using said old outdated ****, they should at least try and include it with the patch.
    Semi-retired due to continuing mind boggling displays of stupidity from PWI
  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Uh Sylen...these comps have been updated. It's called DX10 and 11?

    We're talking about 2-3 year old computers here, not ancient monsters with big CRT screens and a whopping 512mb ram.

    And again, a lot of people are experiencing these problems on *WINDOWS 7*
    Windows 7 didn't even exist 5-6 years ago.



    And you just shot yourself in the foot right there. It's PWI that's using the old outdated ****, not us. If they insist on using said old outdated ****, they should at least try and include it with the patch.

    You dont seem to get it. It's your fault for having only PART of Directx, instead of making sure you have it ALL. Directx 11 doesnt do you a lot of good if its missing Directx 9.0C and you're trying to play something that requires 9.0C.

    Just because you have the "Latest version" doesn't mean you have "every version ever created up until now"
  • _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear
    _Zappy_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It's my fault I don't have old software that's been superceded *twice* already?
    It's PWI that's using the old outdated ****, not us. If they insist on using said old outdated ****, they should at least try and include it with the patch.
    Semi-retired due to continuing mind boggling displays of stupidity from PWI
  • Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide
    Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide Posts: 934 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It's my fault I don't have old software that's been superceded *twice* already?

    Yes
  • Shayd - Raging Tide
    Shayd - Raging Tide Posts: 475 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    They spent well over 6 months testing the things that were released in this expansion. Some of it has been on the beta test servers for over a year. So far the only real "problems" with the patch are with users that no longer meet the minimum system requirements because PW updated the core of the client to meet standards that were new 10 years ago.

    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.
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  • Nightmare/ - Harshlands32
    Nightmare/ - Harshlands32 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Not all DX11 installs are the same. Many have left out the DX9.0c codecs because it is no longer used in mainstream systems.

    Additionally, many games that you install, install their own flavor of DirectX, which will write over your previous version. Again, leaving out dll and codecs that are not necessary to play their game, yet may remove codecs and dll's that are necessary for others.

    The maintenance of this is on the user, not the game developer.
    DX11 isn't the problem, the fact that you, (or your friends), do not that the 9.0c dll's installed is.

    DX9.0c is an outdated standard, yet they have "upgraded" the client to meet it. It kind of makes you wonder what DirectX standard the client was using before if it wasn't using one that is already 10 years old.

    I agree with u fully on that not all dx installs are same,however i have seen even ppl with dx 9.c installed even havin prblems with new patch even downloadin a fresh copy of it from windows site itself.

    Not much people can do if they still having problems with it installed thats not on user side.

    Only advice i can give to some people who are running dx 10+ if ur having this problem download a fresh copy of dx9 from windows and then redownload 10 or w.e u had before it should fix it...As for what version dx they were using before this new 9.c i believe is was 8b:laugh or something in that region lol
  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.

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  • MysLibby - Raging Tide
    MysLibby - Raging Tide Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.

    I third this.
  • Bravenwulf - Sanctuary
    Bravenwulf - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.

    I fourth it.
  • WovenMask - Dreamweaver
    WovenMask - Dreamweaver Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.

    I Fith this
  • Phantazm - Dreamweaver
    Phantazm - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Are you F****ng ****? 6 months? Year? They made up few skills and new instance with ultra-low texture as a ground, They made it in probably a month and 1-2 weeks at MOST, there were no testing. They put it on Test server to see if something crashes, that's it! And that's how they care for PWI, keep it alive with useless stuff just to earn money on boutique, Trials? Wedding chapel? Warsoul weapons , how many updates are just fashion? I'd say 4/5. And when they just can't suck any more out of players they will release some lame memorial video and shut the game grinning at players ''Sorry, no refunds, kiss our ***'' because when a poor guy goes to buy his first TT weapon price tag will show 65 millions because game is unbalanced either with economy and newer classes and they make silly ''errors'' like enabling PK in Secret Passage so Rank 9 players can pick on lvl 20 guy doing weapon token quest?. So shut the **** up thinking there is something going on in their office they sit and count money or just rewriting code just to make sale every week and putting ''Changed name of this thing'' on Patch notes. This game is dead and it's only theirs fault for being greedy, putting items that overpower players against F2P ones. So move on other games, there is bunch of new ones coming for example Guild Waars 2 (Purpose typo, censoring). I log on every once a while just to see how people cry in World chat and gold prices going insane, when I joined 1 gold = 100k, today you would laugh at me rather than trying to believe. the game is running on element engine which is simply OLD and sucks up CPU because back then dedicated Graphic cards were rare, so no, your computer doesn't suck, It's the game, not clear? Put settings on maximum and see how smooth game runs, Crappy eh? lower resolution to see if it helps...It won't it's because core engine DOES NOT USE FULL POTENTIAL of whatever pc you have. Yes they could optimize it to run smoothly, it would take a lot of rewriting but it's possible..but, hold on. They don't care! even Blizzard updated some graphics over time, and few other MMOs we are forbidden to mention on this forum, freedom of speech eh? forgot this is chinese game.

    I Totally agree !!
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