Zulu - Catalyst

Catalyst took the same amount of lands as Zulu did.

b:laugh

Was some good times there Pasayo
One thing cata can say we did that zulu didnt do...cata has yet to lose a war.

TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »

On a similar note - it's funny how people say Cata is super smart, has its propaganda and what not, a grand scheme to rule the server by plotting behind everyone's back - like seriously, they're not that smart nor good to begin with, the server just happens to suffer from a chronic lack of cojones.

Not that good? I guess defending triple stack's as well as taking the map(barring a few lands) twice was all pure luck.

A lot of ppl pm me about Zulu vs Catalyst. Its either how we're just the same guild or how zulu was better. Which is fine with me, cuz I was a large part in running both guilds, and I'll take it as a compliment. Either way 2 years later all the threads on this forums are about the same core group of ppl (or w/e guild then are running).

Zulu and Catalyst obviously had a lot of the same ppl. This core has chosen to play together because this is the group of ppl we enjoy the most and trust in each others knowledge and abilities. This is no secret.

The two main differences between cata and zulu are standard of recruitment and difference of the times.

In zulu we really did recruit almost anyone with +5 gear or higher just to win tws. This ended up being successful in the end, but we found the guild overflowed with too much 'litter'. People who were either along for a free ride and/or didnt share our views or mentality about the game, etc.... which is why we remade the new guild, with new standards. Anyone can go through catalyst's apps and see the ppl we have denied. Many with full r9 and/or high refines. Denied more for the reason that we base our decisions on the type of person rather then their gear. We have even at times closed our applications in aims to keep our numbers down, give time for current members to mesh. I dont know if any other faction has run their guild that way.

In zulu times there was really only 1 guild that had any gear to challenge us, and that was kylin. And once Kylin was kinda defeated it was only crimson. I think catalyst probably faced a greater "challenge" just due to the large amount of factions that had large amount of geared ppl. I mean in Zulu, we had like 5 r8's and a couple recasted weapons that carried hard in TW's because no one even had gear that came close to that, except kylin.
Now the amount of r9s and +10 refines or higher is almost a standard. The only thing missing is the leadership to bring it all together to make something happen.

Either way in the end both factions were successful. I personally am just happier with the way catalyst has turned out composition wise. Thanks and congratulations to the most unified and cohesive group I could imagine putting together to achieve common goals! Congrats on thus far being undefeated, and looking forward to seeing how long we can carry on our streak in the new expansion. b:victory PVE TWs ftw! I also invite catalyst members to join me in ignoring the inevitable chain of rage posts and jealous haters who cant help but try to bring us down or undermine our accomplishments. My posts tend to draw them out for some reason. I'll QQ about no Archo tele b:cry

Also congrats to crimson for 2nd place once again!

Curses - Harshlands wrote: »

A lot of ppl pm me about Zulu vs Catalyst. Its either how we're just the same guild or how zulu was better. Which is fine with me, cuz I was a large part in running both guilds, and I'll take it as a compliment. Either way 2 years later all the threads on this forums are about the same core group of ppl (or w/e guild then are running).

Zulu and Catalyst obviously had a lot of the same ppl. This core has chosen to play together because this is the group of ppl we enjoy the most and trust in each others knowledge and abilities. This is no secret.

The two main differences between cata and zulu are standard of recruitment and difference of the times.

In zulu we really did recruit almost anyone with +5 gear or higher just to win tws. This ended up being successful in the end, but we found the guild overflowed with too much 'litter'. People who were either along for a free ride and/or didnt share our views or mentality about the game, etc.... which is why we remade the new guild, with new standards. Anyone can go through catalyst's apps and see the ppl we have denied. Many with full r9 and/or high refines. Denied more for the reason that we base our decisions on the type of person rather then their gear. We have even at times closed our applications in aims to keep our numbers down, give time for current members to mesh. I dont know if any other faction has run their guild that way.

In zulu times there was really only 1 guild that had any gear to challenge us, and that was kylin. And once Kylin was kinda defeated it was only crimson. I think catalyst probably faced a greater "challenge" just due to the large amount of factions that had large amount of geared ppl. I mean in Zulu, we had like 5 r8's and a couple recasted weapons that carried hard in TW's because no one even had gear that came close to that, except kylin.
Now the amount of r9s and +10 refines or higher is almost a standard. The only thing missing is the leadership to bring it all together to make something happen.

Either way in the end both factions were successful. I personally am just happier with the way catalyst has turned out composition wise. Thanks and congratulations to the most unified and cohesive group I could imagine putting together to achieve common goals! Congrats on thus far being undefeated, and looking forward to seeing how long we can carry on our streak in the new expansion. b:victory PVE TWs ftw! I also invite catalyst members to join me in ignoring the inevitable chain of rage posts and jealous haters who cant help but try to bring us down or undermine our accomplishments. My posts tend to draw them out for some reason. I'll QQ about no Archo tele b:cry

Also congrats to crimson for 2nd place once again!

We'll try to be 1st, this time b:thanks


Omg, it means I'll be cata puller once again for Fleau! It gonna be fun b:laughb:victory

Congrats cata for holding the most land before reset and for being undefeated in tw. I hope this reset gets everyone over qqing gets the other factions together, makes the tw fights fun again and a challege. I am exicited to have a tw that last more then 10 minutes.

Not sure Crimson can be congratulated for the 2nd place if they just sucked up to be spared of same fate everyone else suffered - they did their typical dodging of every possible confrontation.

As for Cata deserving the credit for defending in 15 TWs:

Valhala is nowhere near to what it was in its prime.
Kylin is dead.
Afterlife is 2weak atm.
Mayhem is a pve faction ffs and it has issues with TW attendance.
Omerta is dead.

So what exactly was so special about Catalyst defending vs these half-dead, weakened and miserably looking factions? If they defended in 3 TWs with Valhala, Kylin and Afterlife in their prime - then hell yeah they would've lost without a doubt, problem is back then those factions had too big egos to work together, rather focusing on irrelevant fights in the grand scheme of things.


Only thing Catalyst deserves credit for is beating disorganized cash shopping powerhouses 1on1. As far as their other victories, seriously in a game where money rules over skill it would be sad if Catalyst lost to mediocre factions considering the fact their members spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on PWI (just one heavy cash shopper in Catalyst spent enough money to gear up 80 players to r9, so go figure)

I'm by no means against cash shopping, time=money, but still you gotta face the fact you have a bunch of r9+12 players fighting vs factions that mostly have r8 players.


As for the comment that Catalyst are not all that good - that statement is correct. They are nowhere near a competitive guild from main stream e-Sports, but they are the closest thing to it which makes them so superior in PWI because every other faction is a reflection of incompetence at its best, so of course it ain't hard to look good when your competition is that bad.

And don't get me wrong, I don't hate Catalyst, I hate on the rest of the server that is incompetent to overcome an obstacle, making it look like it's fighting demigods. For the sake of good competition, I hope the map reset will bring more balance among the factions and best of luck to everybody, including Catalyst.

Xx_BeLLa_xX - Harshlands wrote: »

LOL... C$ keep the game alive ijs, and its so ''clich

dont know why that didnt post all my message but ppl who spend their time QQ about Catalyst C$ should use their time to farm their stuff they will realise its possible to farm decent gears without C$, and i know ppl who farm R9 without C$, in Catalyst and other faction, so get over it, stop be lazy and go farm...

Payaso - Harshlands wrote: »

Whoever said cata had more land..uhm no o.O zulu needed 3 tw's till full map..cata still needed 7? 6? Idk... GJ cata 4 ruling tw map & zulu will always be remembered as 1st guild to dominate map :P.. PS quit yer long *** walls o txt..quit complainin..i posted ss's to remember gud times n **** not create problems

Ur not the only zulu random living in the past glory days. All of the old zulu who got carried and were not successful after the reset cling to that success...which is understandable I guess.

lol, u think we dont know that? Doesnt change a thing.

TheDendra - Harshlands wrote: »

Apparently you missed this line "Only thing Catalyst deserves credit for is beating disorganized cash shopping powerhouses 1on1"

Fact is you are so-called heroes of your street, aka suffering from syndrome of thinking you are better than you actually are, like I said, your competition is so pathetic it would be a joke if you managed to lose after spending individually $50k or more on a game in which $$>Skill.

By the logic of $$>Skill the map should have been red with Valhalla.

But dw, you'll have your piece of the TW map now and Cata wont be beating down AL's door...yet

There are two different Zulu factions trying to reform now and live off the credit of others. You should join up and continue trying to live off the success of others like they are.

Come ooooooon PW

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Sabella - Harshlands wrote: »

Aren't you part of the "pathetic competition"? ijs
gg

sabella why do you keep posting just to troll? It's rather annoying women ><