Fists

DeathenShada - Archosaur
DeathenShada - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Archer
Well i'm getting a pair of fists for my archer and I was wondering what fist I should get.

I'm debating either

Nirvana Regicide or Windpour which one is cheaper? to make the t99 or get the decides to make them?

Or should I just sick with the Deicides because you don't get too much power by upgrading?

Anywho archers who have experiance let me know :)

Oh and one more thing seeing we're probably gonna get a 2x pretty soon whats the odds of a archer getting into a Nirvana squad if they're using fists and are 4-5aps. Cause the way I see it usually it's just sins and BM's but I don't have one so fists is all I can do and I need the cash.

So ya if you have suggestions/comments I'd love to hear them b:pleased

Edit: and also i've heard that it'd be hard to get in squads because the dammage is lower but at 5 aps wouldn't that compensate somewhat?
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Last 2x, I got rejected maybe 10% of the time from random squads because I'm an archer. I never link my weapon (Traceless Dimension). If I did, I think I get rejected less often.
  • Flamespirit - Dreamweaver
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    always go lunar nirvana....atleast once you get tired of it- you can sell it.
  • XxRagzxx - Sanctuary
    XxRagzxx - Sanctuary Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I would stick with Deicides tbh. My archer only has +5 ones, and it works just fine for me. Tiger event i usually place between 4th-10th in archers with them.
    Archer Build:
    pwcalc.com/d38eec6e1f27c7a6
    Sin Build:
    pwcalc.com/d74f267d3be72784
  • jsfj
    jsfj Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Idk what way is better becuase every1 plays in a differnt way. Am a sage archer who uses fist and a rank 9 bow. But every build can be good dependen on the player. Becuase i see alota rull rank9 archer pure dex who **** hardcore an never use fist and i see 5aps sage archer who do the same. Guess what am sayen deturmine what your playen style is and adjust your gear from there. But i give a basic of my gear.

    Helm: Nirvy 4soc +10 vit stone
    Chest: Rank8 4soc +10 vit stone
    Leggs: Nirvy 4soc +10 vit stone
    Boots: tt99 4soc +10 vit stone
    Arms: tt99 4soc +10 vit stone
    rings: lunar +10 both engraved +7 str
    cape: lunar event intv. 4soc +10 vit stone
    neck: stage 2 cubeneck (pys) +10
    Belt: tt99 heavy +10
    Tome: Love up an down
    Bow: rank 9 +10 granet gems
    Fist: tt100 +10 granet gems
  • Allynna_ - Dreamweaver
    Allynna_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    If you can get high APS with GVs it's not a bad option. Requires less str than Decides, does comparable damage and the revenge proc really helps with survivability. If you already have the stats and Decide claws they're not a bad choice, but if you can get 5APS with GVs IMO would be a better choice than Decides.
  • DeathenShada - Archosaur
    DeathenShada - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Flamespirit - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    always go lunar nirvana....atleast once you get tired of it- you can sell it.


    are you implying that the windpours bind? I didn't know that :O
  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    DeathenShada - Archosaur wrote: »
    are you implying that the windpours bind? I didn't know that :O

    Well they are.
  • Transcend - Lost City
    Transcend - Lost City Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    +10 Deicides are nice @ 5aps but I rarely get into decent pub nv squads :(
    http://bit.ly/xkK9XK

    edit: those are all +10/11/12 R9s
    youtube.com/transcendpw

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  • Hurrdurr - Lothranis
    Hurrdurr - Lothranis Posts: 1,468 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Eh, I won tiger event first try using Nirvana +10 bow and +7 GV with 2x G11 Garnets.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJdzlWpy-bk

    2nd place archer was full R9 +12 and 3rd and 4th both had R9 bows +10 or higher. To win Tiger event using GV isn't hard on my server. Whatever fists you choose you'll probably end up solo farming anyway. a 3.3 APS sin pretty much out DPS any archer except maybe G15 claw with advanced revenge and -0.05 -0.05 using 4 pieces of R9.
  • Viriilink - Lost City
    Viriilink - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Transcend's face remind me of the Chinese girl Koko.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I suggest that, whatever you pick, you take into account the aesthetic beauty of the weapon as well.
  • Transcend - Lost City
    Transcend - Lost City Posts: 448 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Viriilink - Lost City wrote: »
    Transcend's face remind me of the Chinese girl Koko.

    I wish I didn't look that up lol
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  • DeathenShada - Archosaur
    DeathenShada - Archosaur Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    alrighty ty all for input :)
  • Eolos - Raging Tide
    Eolos - Raging Tide Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Vanity are the best fists for archer use imo, cause or str requirement and overal stats anf good refines.
  • Badazmofo - Dreamweaver
    Badazmofo - Dreamweaver Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I would reccomend sticking with decided rather than going nirvy (unless your going 2nd cast) at +10 the damage for deicides and nirvy are pretty close.

    As for the getting a squad part that may be where your issue is, i have +10 deicides and still had trouble getting into squads on my archer (unless it was a group of my friends and no i dont link my wep) the main problem is with the abundance of rank 8 alot of casters rolled archers or sins for farming nirvy (mostly archers from my exp because its cheap to get 5.0 on and all that fun stuff).

    Not saying its impossible but may take a while to find a decent squad to take you who wont wipe/take forever. Good luck =)
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  • Ogedei - Dreamweaver
    Ogedei - Dreamweaver Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    In my opinion it all depends on what you plan on using your archer for. If you don't plan on being a pvp archer I'd say go for lunar nirvana. If you plan on pvping you might want to stick with fists like gorenox, as you can get enough strength to use them even if you're a pure dex built.
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I should also mention that, after getting a nice pair of 2nd cast claws, I was usually keeping aggro. Most of the really good assassins were soloing / duoing Nirvana anyways, so a lot of the random groups you find will have less-than-elite gear.

    If you do manage to be amongst the higher damage dealers, you can easily make Nirvana contacts for future runs. That's what ended up happening to me by the end of December's 2x.
  • Ruvil - Sanctuary
    Ruvil - Sanctuary Posts: 382 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    sin is the best 5aps wep for archer.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Ruvil - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sin is the best 5aps wep for archer.
    Abomination D:

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