Clerics and PDEF

doriskye
doriskye Posts: 1 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Cleric
As a cleric we're always in need of PDEF. Most clerics I know use pdef necklaces and pdef belts. Here's a thought that occurd to me. Would it make sense to use patk rings (like Sky Cover) instead of matk rings to get extra pdef?

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  • Decus - Dreamweaver
    Decus - Dreamweaver Posts: 5,033 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    The magic attack lost is really detrimental. Considering a lunar ring gives 250 pdef, there's really no reason to get a physical ring and refine it.
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Decus - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The magic attack lost is really detrimental.

    That would depend on your weapon, though. I doubt it would be that noticeable with a +12 r9 weapon.

    It might not be a bad idea to have a set of refined phys rings to put on for certain occasions, but it's something I wouldn't think about until endgame (and when you have quite a bit of money to spare).
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  • John_Smith - Harshlands
    John_Smith - Harshlands Posts: 865 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    That would depend on your weapon, though. I doubt it would be that noticeable with a +12 r9 weapon.

    It might not be a bad idea to have a set of refined phys rings to put on for certain occasions, but it's something I wouldn't think about until endgame (and when you have quite a bit of money to spare).

    This. Situational but not needed in any way.

    Although if you have a Sin alt or something then go crazy. Losing anything upto 1000Matk might suck but gaining upto 1600-2000Pdef might be worth it if you've a damn shiny weapon.
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  • Daialura - Heavens Tear
    Daialura - Heavens Tear Posts: 134 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    +12 Sky Cover adds about 2.8k to my pdef with vanguard.
    With a maxed sky cover and 2nd level cube neck, I can get 9.8k pdef with just vanguard and 14k-15k ish with bell. Nowitsawn is right, with a high enough weapon refine, the loss from the magic ring isn't really noticed.
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  • Eoria - Harshlands
    Eoria - Harshlands Posts: 6,118 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Now whether or not you want to give up the channeling is up to you... b:chuckle
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  • Haruzi - Lost City
    Haruzi - Lost City Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I've seen some r9 psys, do this, but an ep w/ phys rings greatly reduces their mag attack, and thus their heals. 2k of my 13k mag attack is alotb:surrender . Also, for lower lvls and lesser gears, it's probably a lot more of a handicap. I remember only having 5k mag attack at lvl 99. I don't see physical rings being of much use until you have a really shiny weapon with very high refines (+10 and above). As for the psys, while they loose magic attack, they dont need it bc of their already insane soulfource and attack lvls. b:cry They still hit 10k crits on me w/o mag rings.
  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    It's very situation and must be done with the utmost care....I would highly recommend carefully comparing available magic rings to whatever pattk ring your are looking at. The sky covers in particular seem to be one some people are willing to swap for. Throw them in the calc and make darn sure that you aren't losing too much mattak for it. Yeah, p.def is important but your mattk is also very important. That being said, I've occassionally run across pattack rings that would be worth the tradeoff if i wasn't wearing one of the better rings for my level.
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  • Baby_pho - Heavens Tear
    Baby_pho - Heavens Tear Posts: 636 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    a +10 sky cover does gives an amazing amount of pdef 2k+ or so but do u really wanna pay 200m ish + . it is a luxury i'd worry about +10/sharding everything else and get ur gear up to par bfor you think about geting a +10 sky cover. the channeling thing u can switch depending on situations. but yeh meh hubby has a sky cover ring he lets me borrow during tt lol x.x' heal tank bb arma. and i do love it lol too bad its only for borrow DX
  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I think lunar ring is normally perfectly adequate. I still have my lvl 88 might ring +9 magic +4 refine somewhere tho. b:chuckle

    If you're thinking about sky cover chances are you'll probably have great gear already so the decrease in mattack wont make a huge difference. The +att level compensates for that in pvp anyway.
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  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I can see the argument for this in PvP, in PvE it would be pointless I think.

    It almost comes down to the same argument as vit build vs pure build. I always found it more beneficial to have the stronger heals than the couple more pdef and hp. Of course, 2kish pdef from changing rings is a bigger difference. It would all come down to how well you swap pieces during a fight.

    Physical chars kind of have an advantage with the CoA ring that gives both +phys and +mag, but refines for magic defense. Magic players should have a similar ring that refines for phys def.
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