Dex based genie for PvP

Why not just go for 20 second anti stun and stun back your opponent with a str based genie? Expel is still useable without dex, 2 seconds isn't much. Faith is a lot more useful to have and str reduces its cost by a lot.

As usual there is no actual answer to whats the best genie, i have both a strength and dex genie, 35 vit, 40/ 55 magic, rest on dex/ str.

Expel rebound is nice with Quid Pro Quo but u need perfect timing, one late click or CC and your screwed. Fortify is just nice IMO for burst but the duration isn't for me.

These are my two genies; i use the Strength one for everyday PvP or Sin PvP and i use the Dex one for PvE, TW, Mass PvP (that wind shield is just.. life saver)

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Faith and Expel have such high energy usage though it would be impossible to get them off in sequence.

Neodym - Lost City wrote: »

@Sympathi : Just hotkey Quid and Expel on 2 keys next to each other and press them at the same time. Works everytime, so it's no real problem to time it. And yea the duration on fortify is pretty short but I am used to using it from my wiz. It needs a little practice to time it right.

@OontzOontz: Bringing PK pots into the discussion doesn't help a lot with genie choice. Not having to use up my PK pot with vac powder leaves me free to use fortify + 12 sec immune or dew star. Vac also doesn't help you much if you get stunned from stealth.

I think I will really make a strength genie and see which I use in which situation.

The 9 second seal is nice but i just dont want to rely on a perfect QPQ to manage it, you cant tell me you've never been in a situation were you've come like half a second from doing something only to be intrrupted or stuned or sealed or killed.

The Fortify is a nice idea for burst. Infact i might start using it when it comes down to Bursting Heavy's alone with extreme poison ill have to check if its more effective then Frenzy EP.

For me when it comes to genies for seekers these are a must;

Absolute Domain; It IS the lifesaver skill, its a staple on every genie, 4 seconds immunity, 6 seconds anti-stun cant be beat. It allows vortex to run undisturbed for a long enough period, it blocks melee and magic hits, stuns or CC.

Cloud Eruption: Seekers main issue in PvP and TW is lack of chi building, sage helps somewhat but there's been times when Ive needed 1 spark for chasing someone with telestun, or opening a vortex or even cloud > 3 spark to resist a kill hit when AD is down.

Frenzy/ Enrage: is just killer, especially on Rank 9, with 30 + 30 + 20 + 3 attack levels it turns Gemini slash into an AoE killer. Crit or zerk frenzy Gemini slash one hits buffed JoSD +12 psychics in TW for me, and it allows a 3.99 3 spark > BA > Ion > Seeker > Battu to kill Heavy s with ease.

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

The 9 second seal is nice but i just dont want to rely on a perfect QPQ to manage it, you cant tell me you've never been in a situation were you've come like half a second from doing something only to be intrrupted or stuned or sealed or killed.

The Fortify is a nice idea for burst. Infact i might start using it when it comes down to Bursting Heavy's alone with extreme poison ill have to check if its more effective then Frenzy EP.

For me when it comes to genies for seekers these are a must;

Absolute Domain; It IS the lifesaver skill, its a staple on every genie, 4 seconds immunity, 6 seconds anti-stun cant be beat. It allows vortex to run undisturbed for a long enough period, it blocks melee and magic hits, stuns or CC.

Cloud Eruption: Seekers main issue in PvP and TW is lack of chi building, sage helps somewhat but there's been times when Ive needed 1 spark for chasing someone with telestun, or opening a vortex or even cloud > 3 spark to resist a kill hit when AD is down.

Frenzy/ Enrage: is just killer, especially on Rank 9, with 30 + 30 + 20 + 3 attack levels it turns Gemini slash into an AoE killer. Crit or zerk frenzy Gemini slash one hits buffed JoSD +12 psychics in TW for me, and it allows a 3.99 3 spark > BA > Ion > Seeker > Battu to kill Heavy s with ease.

Right now Domain, HP, and Chi Siphon/CE seems to be the biggest stuff for TW. There never seems to be enough genie energy to do Frenzy/Enrage and etc. Pots are typically used to get around seals and stuns.

I've been talking with the wife about Sage Edged Blur - thoughts? Cause ideally it could be a catabarb killer even without zerk?

Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »

Ive been wondering about edged blur too, because its fixed damage every 3 seconds which cant crit or zerk i don't use it at all in pk or tw purely because its slow and unreliable and with chi being like gold dust to seekers id prefer to have the telestun to/ away from danger or vortex.

I do tend to 2 spark vortex though and Ive been wondering if i got more base damage and overall damage increases (such as Diamond of Tigers) if a Edged Blur Vortex with say sage unfetter IG and Frenzy or even chain AD after would deal more damage.

Yea you're thinking exactly what she is except without all the attack levels or R9. Honestly whenever a catabarb comes they get annihilated by everyone - but I would think BM+the list you described above-ish (Particularly Edged Blur into Vortex) would annihilate them quick.

Neodym - Lost City wrote: »

You didn't get the point ;P You are expeling yourself while transfering the seal via quid pro quo on the enemy. That means you get the physical immune because you cast expel on yourself but the person you are fighting gets the seal via debuff transfer. It has nothing to do with buff filter because expel is not actually cast on another person.

I see, well since having found out about that neutral buff filter I got rid of expel so no never heard of it or tried it, and in my other findings I was never able to qpq stuns our sleeps so I naturally assumed was the same as seal...oops

Hexalot - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well well... so are you saying that a Seeker who plays on a "PVP" Server has never heard of QPQing expel before ?

I know and still rockin fools now I can last 9 more seconds vs rank 9's

Neodym - Lost City wrote: »

Well it does work for the seal because the seal does not interrupt your casting like wizards force of will does for example. You just can't start channeling a new spell. But if you are already channeling one the one you channel gets finished. That's why you need to time it right. You can't just expel and QPQ after like with Fortify. It's teh same for clerics that channel purify and then expel or psys that do the same with sage bubble of life. They purify the seal but keep immunity.

Well I'm a clicker so unless I get some hot key skills wouldn't do me much good but thanks for the info.