Why don't people shame them? O_O

BloodyNero - Raging Tide wrote: »

Anyways the point of this thread was why don't people shame these newbie FC lvlers?

Because there are way too many.

Lol, we had the same happen yesterday in faction. Dude got invited, first thing he did was ask for someone to help him with bh. Then begged for FCC, later he tried to sell some guild base mat...

Imo those people aren't even worth the effort. And seriously, if you got a mature faction, they shouldn't make drama either. Even if they start cursing, trolling and randomly swearing at people, if you're mature you can handle it.
We had a bad case once, some guy joined and talked ****, insults and everything. Noone on to kick him at that time. So I dropped a line to everyone on and not afk to just ignore him and go on normal talking. He left quickly after he figured that he won't get attention.

Krisnda wrote: »

^ This.

I will however, agree that the influx of new people who know nothing about what to do as their class (veno's pulling with earthflame genie) does upset me, but I've learned to get over it. Its not like you can really do anything about it.

While a lot is being said towards plvled newbs, there are many non plvled newbs who face lots of issues and not able to learn the game properly. One can not learn everything on their own either by playing the game or going through forums. There are many things which one learns while playing with other people of same level.

It has been 2 months since I started this game and looking at my level, you may know whether I plvled or not. Currently in my faction, there are minimum 10-12 members who are new and not plvling. So I can assume that a fair amount of new players are still joining who are not plvling. Just to give you examples of the issues I faced, which other newbs also must be facing.

There are not enough low lvl players, and it results in almost no squads being formed most of the time. The only time squads are formed are for BH, where a high lvl will do almost everything while helping. Result: I still dont know a lot about other classes's skills and their capabilities at my lvl. For last 10 lvls or so, I have started getting squads with players of my lvl and now we are learning to manage aggro etc.

Try to buy armours or mats for manufacturing them for under lvl 60. Hardly anything will be available in market coz there is not enough profit or demand for them. Now you cant farm each & every mat required at low lvls (specially oils). This resulted in me either having quest rewards or npc items mostly till lvl 55+.

Most of the discussions on forums are towards end game or high lvl. There will be hardly any discussion or low lvl or mid lvl strategies. I also have a veno and sometime back when I asked for guidance on luring with pet (I was having difficuly luring ranged ones), one high lvl replied to use pet (which I was already doing) and another said to move on and kill those mobs when I am high lvl. I asked on forums coz even after repeated attempts I wasnt able to do it properly and needed guidance.

In short I am learning things at lvl 70, which I should have learned in 30s or 40s. No one is to be blamed for this. Its an old game and if there not enough new players, its not anyone's fault. Just wanted to point out that there are decent number of non plvled newbs who dont know the game properly and it's not entirely their fault.

Why should we shame this people ? They just adapting to the current meta. If you think they suck, make a fresh char on a server you dont own a penny and dont know anyone and level it up. Soon you will realize, unless you at least 90 you have a very hard time finding company and pwi feel like a boring solo game.

After level 100 and the right gear nothing but the very basics are needed because the pve content is no challenge for the gear we have.

So its allright to ask stupid questions , dont know your class and suck at anything and be undergeared because thats the current way how the game is played. At level 100 CS seperate from non Cs and people start learning something. If they not allready bored to death and go for another game they might become decent people in a few more months.

Edit :

On a game i previously played a Corporation advertised their recruitment with " Raising Success by lowering Expectations "

I got myself an alt in there and it was the most funny expirience i ever had.

b:angry I went from 1 to 100 in 8 months time and some fac mates think i'm an idiot for doing that. "You can actually be 100 in a month's time, you're not doing it right...''

Huh?b:shocked

Its all about player's attitude,those crybabes have always been here since the start of PWI.
With just a difference:

- Long time ago,if you were a spolied brat QQer that thinks levelling from 1-30 takes too long and just wanna reach lv.100 asap cuz its **** being low level and such,you couldn't do a thing other than oracles(Which becoming quickly expensive and you had to deal with limited space).That time,those kind of players would have just quit.

- Now,they got an alternative,FCC sellers,so instead of quitting after 2 hours of playing and unistalling the game they rush to 100 spend a couple of hundred of dollars in R8+ stuff and then they stand idle in west archosaur wondering WTF now? **ragequit** <-- This especially after realizing that even with good equip they can't compete with people with both good equip and actual knowing the class...

I can't count the number of newbies floating aimlessly around FC that randomly whisper if i can drag them through to heads only to check their gear and see a lv 20 chest weapon equipped. lol You have to wonder though, if they are so new they seem to know just what to ask for to be plv.

_Nerox_ - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Put random NPC's insted of shades in FC that requiers a full squad within a lvl 10 range 85+ to continue.

Problem solved

Unless those NPC's worked like 5th boss portal and meant you had to teleport using the NPC to parts of FC that would then be closed off without that means, then people would just do what they already do and wait to squad the newbies till heads when it was all already open.

MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »

What I've began doing in order to stop these FCC nubs, is when selling/giving out FCC heads, I require a PWI related question to be answered first.

lol, that only works for if you know the answer xD.



I don't even bother anymore, if I sell big room then it's first come first served and if they don't pay...Well, I always love more red hours (I still find it funny people even try to PK this BM, all they will ever get is arrows and crab meat)

Tsukyini - Raging Tide wrote: »

I've never seen a cleric heal during heads. Actually, most of the powerleveled clerics I've seen don't actually heal at all. b:shutup

That's why they're coming out with metal mage mode. b:avoid

MistaBwanden - Sanctuary wrote: »

You do realize that's the point, right? Ask a question such as "How do you gain chi for certain skills/sparks?" Showing they actually play, and aren't a FCC plvl'd nub.

You missed my point of how many Frost lvl'd nubs go and repeat the process of selling frost to lvl nubs

Why should we have to quest if you can just frost? Pw isn't rocket science, there's stupid people who quested to lvl 100 and they still don't know how to play either. What does flying half way across the map to kill 25 of the same mob teach you about gameplay? =/

True, pw isnt rocket science but id like to think just the opposite. pw is really easy to understand when ya take the time to figure it out even for a min. the skills are so easy to understand even a little kid could probably figure it out. sure gameplay and doin quests helps ya to understand the game, but it also helps to experiment what your skills are and when to use em in each situation. a player who cant knw and understand their own class limitations or at least willing to try and understand them shouldnt be playing pw. the mobs have become much harder to kill since the genesis expansion and they have become much harder since it takes almost alot of effort to get their hp down to 0. I think one of the better solutions is to teach and train those that do low lvl quests to help guide them. plus if any of those that have plvled to 100 who also want to learn how pw works, then help em to understand the basics. its a big job but those who are willing and up for the task should be able to do it one player at a time. Sure id like to see pw change back to the way things used to be also but i dont think that will happen anytime too soon. there are somethings that we old school type players can do and we can start by guiding the newbies into doing things in pw the right way instead of the fast way.