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Celesse - Harshlands
Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
edited February 2012 in General Discussion
Okay so I know I'm always up in here asking questions about gear like a tard.
Because I am a tard.

So with a budget of 400 million coins, how would you improve my gear?

This is where it's currently at: http://pwcalc.com/03ea89f3e0237da9
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  • VenusArmani - Dreamweaver
    VenusArmani - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,009 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Probably get better answers from the veno subforum. :P
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  • Jacerai - Dreamweaver
    Jacerai - Dreamweaver Posts: 943 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    That hat, definitely, should not be 80. Maybe getting it up to at least the 90 version?

    Nice Lunar Nirvy top, by the way. XD

    Since I'm not certain on prices, I can't say more. I'm bad at sharding (currently two friends are helping me decide end-game shards).
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  • Ajiuo - Harshlands
    Ajiuo - Harshlands Posts: 708 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Here's what you do.
    Give me your tome.

    That's all. b:cute
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Jacerai - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    That hat, definitely, should not be 80. Maybe getting it up to at least the 90 version?

    Nice Lunar Nirvy top, by the way. XD

    Since I'm not certain on prices, I can't say more. I'm bad at sharding (currently two friends are helping me decide end-game shards).

    The 90 version is auto-binding - which is something I'm trying to avoid at all costs.

    I do have lunar nirvy pants as well but they are first cast - so currently not as good as the tt90 pants. I was planning to sell them with is part of the '400m budget'.

    As for the veno subforums - this gear is shared between multiple characters so any improvement should be made with multiple classes in mind :D
  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Give up.
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Okay so I know I'm always up in here asking questions about gear like a tard.
    Because I am a tard.

    So with a budget of 400 million coins, how would you improve my gear?

    This is where it's currently at: http://pwcalc.com/03ea89f3e0237da9

    http://pwcalc.com/99fb94c200c8345a

    Would be my recommendation, I'm pretty sure its under the 400m total if you include the sales of your gears.

    - Don't get the Lunar Nirvana Top, big waste of money unless your going for critical hit.
    - R8 Will pay for itself with the sale of your legs and weapon anyway, R8 legs rocks for venos.
    - TT90 Gold neck is one of the best, cheapest endgame necks possible.
    - Warsong Belts are usually cheaper then cube necks because of the R9 belt.
    - 30% Channel and 15% Critical on Build without lowering defenses.
    - I personally would make it full Vit, purely because venos have massive spike damage as it is with Ironwood scarab, and survival would be key for me in TW, for amps and purges ect.
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Give up.

    I'm actually considering (seriously) selling everything I own and just buying every piece of fashion I see.
  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I'd go somewhere around this: http://pwcalc.com/dc70973bbbcfeff7

    edit: What Sympathi posted works too. I just assumed you wanted to keep the nirvana because it's not bound to that char like rank gear :P
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Xainou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'd go somewhere around this: http://pwcalc.com/dc70973bbbcfeff7

    1: You just butchered my P-def.

    2: Can you explain why you chose TT99 wrists and boots?

    3: Explain your choice of the warsoul helm as well.

    Thanx :D
  • B_K - Sanctuary
    B_K - Sanctuary Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Here is my veno, trying for a tw build but i deff have some spots i can improve on

    http://pwcalc.com/df7c8e5beb6c9841

    things im thinking about changing;

    Hat- upgrade to helm of holy punishment (ences scar)
    Cape- the one you have, got the chann one cause it was cheap lol
    Belt- warsong is normal choice here, at +10 there is a amazing difference, but if u dont plan to refine that high dont bother
    Neck- same here, unless u plan to refine to +10 dont bother with cube neck
    ring- perhaps cloud stir http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/26389
    or ring of zealousness http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23392

    but deff get some phy deff for sureeeeee
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  • BladedZero - Sanctuary
    BladedZero - Sanctuary Posts: 211 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    - Finish casting the pants and top
    - Get a +10 warsoul helm
    - At least TT99 bracer and boots
    - Cube Necky

    That should be around 400mil

    Also physical belt from 4th OHT map
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    http://pwcalc.com/9a07340cf5adf359


    This should be within the 400 mil budget range (actually probably less....)


    Cube neck - Farmable
    Jungle Belt - Farmable (or can buy the Jungle ruin items to make the belt yourself from other players)
    TT99 Gold Wrist + Pants + Boots - All Farmable plus can be upgraded to Nirvana.
    Phoenix Dance Headwear - Lunar helm, is Farmable


    The refines and adding a 4th socket to some gear will probably cost you the most, followed by upgrading everything to G9 on shards.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    2: Can you explain why you chose TT99 wrists and boots?

    3: Explain your choice of the warsoul helm as well.

    Thanx :D

    I'm no veno, but my guessed would be:
    2: Channeling?
    3: You get more life out of +10ing a Nirvana piece and using a lower refine Warsoul than buying a Nirvana helm and having both the legs and helm be lower refined
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/99fb94c200c8345a

    Would be my recommendation, I'm pretty sure its under the 400m total if you include the sales of your gears.

    - Don't get the Lunar Nirvana Top, big waste of money unless your going for critical hit.
    - R8 Will pay for itself with the sale of your legs and weapon anyway, R8 legs rocks for venos.
    - TT90 Gold neck is one of the best, cheapest endgame necks possible.
    - Warsong Belts are usually cheaper then cube necks because of the R9 belt.
    - 30% Channel and 15% Critical on Build without lowering defenses.
    - I personally would make it full Vit, purely because venos have massive spike damage as it is with Ironwood scarab, and survival would be key for me in TW, for amps and purges ect.

    I really like this gear setup - probably my fault for not mentioning this in the first post but I'm trying to avoid character-bound items. I shared armor currently with a Psychic and a Mystic and that's why I'm going towards nirvana in the first place. (Versus r8/9/recast).

    Also not so sure how I feel about full vit, but thanks :D
  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/99fb94c200c8345a

    Would be my recommendation, I'm pretty sure its under the 400m total if you include the sales of your gears.

    - Don't get the Lunar Nirvana Top, big waste of money unless your going for critical hit.
    - R8 Will pay for itself with the sale of your legs and weapon anyway, R8 legs rocks for venos.
    - TT90 Gold neck is one of the best, cheapest endgame necks possible.
    - Warsong Belts are usually cheaper then cube necks because of the R9 belt.
    - 30% Channel and 15% Critical on Build without lowering defenses.
    - I personally would make it full Vit, purely because venos have massive spike damage as it is with Ironwood scarab, and survival would be key for me in TW, for amps and purges ect.

    quick change i would make actually, http://pwcalc.com/d63f0867024805e2 if your not a fan of the channel helmet.

    As for the tt99 wrists and boots, there isnt really anything better you can get for the price, not only is it -9% channel but the dex plus your cape puts your 5 base dex onto 20, so a free crit too.
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/9a07340cf5adf359


    This should be within the 400 mil budget range (actually probably less....)


    Cube neck - Farmable
    Jungle Belt - Farmable (or can buy the Jungle ruin items to make the belt yourself from other players)
    TT99 Gold Wrist + Pants + Boots - All Farmable plus can be upgraded to Nirvana.
    Phoenix Dance Headwear - Lunar helm, is Farmable


    The refines and adding a 4th socket to some gear will probably cost you the most, followed by upgrading everything to G9 on shards.

    Is there a reason for using the TT99 bottoms other than the potential of making them nirvana eventually (to match the top)?

    The belt requires high level crafting to make.

    Why the lunar helm?
  • B_K - Sanctuary
    B_K - Sanctuary Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    are u account stashing or trading between accounts? im trading between accounts myself my main reason for a lot of my newer gear choices. the 99 is cheap and easy enough to get that i didnt mind having it bound. but i did not want to go rank for the same reason as you.

    and i agree keep the top at 1st cast
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/9a07340cf5adf359

    That is one crazy messed up build noone would ever make o.O

    p.s. cube neck isnt farmable unless you want to spend more then the stamp costs on warsoul materials
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    B_K - Sanctuary wrote: »
    are u account stashing or trading between accounts? im trading between accounts myself my main reason for a lot of my newer gear choices. the 99 is cheap and easy enough to get that i didnt mind having it bound. but i did not want to go rank for the same reason as you.

    and i agree keep the top at 1st cast

    Account stash. So Twilight nirvana is a definite possibility.
  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Account stash. So Twilight nirvana is a definite possibility.

    in that case deff ence scar unless u want the chann, its a epic helm
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Account stash. So Twilight nirvana is a definite possibility.

    http://pwcalc.com/d63f0867024805e2

    For the price you sell the Lunar Nirvana chest and legs for, you could buy 2 sets of R8 for your psychic and your venomancer. i would never recommend the lunar top over R8 even if you want to transfer it, you could possibly keep the pants but again selling both of them would easily afford R8 on both toons. Everything else is stashable.
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/d63f0867024805e2

    For the price you sell the Lunar Nirvana chest and legs for, you could buy 2 sets of R8 for your psychic and your venomancer. i would never recommend the lunar top over R8 even if you want to transfer it, you could possibly keep the pants but again selling both of them would easily afford R8 on both toons. Everything else is stashable.

    What bottoms would you recommend using for the psychic? Since r8 bottoms are kind of trash for them.
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Is there a reason for using the TT99 bottoms other than the potential of making them nirvana eventually (to match the top)?

    The belt requires high level crafting to make.

    Why the lunar helm?
    Yeah the 99 bottoms are mainly for the NV recast purpose, beyond that it's just decoration xD. I just put it there as I wasn't entirely sure how the cash was amounting with everything else. But you should have cash left over to be able to at least first cast them and put a +5 on it (since +5 is so easy to obtain lately with event gold and the likes)

    Well....if you don't like the craftsman lvl for the belt (You can lvl that up you know.....), you could always find a Warsong Marshal badge and get the G14 Warsong Physical Defense Belt.

    As for the Lunar helm....More of a fast click kinda gone wrong. You said you didn't like bound items, so i was trying like hell to figure a way around that with what you had already shown :>
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    That is one crazy messed up build noone would ever make o.O

    p.s. cube neck isnt farmable unless you want to spend more then the stamp costs on warsoul materials
    lol.....maybe if you suck at cube or something but at most the back rooms take me 2 mil and it takes me like 10 mins to get through the first 50 (including a possible port or death). So 2 mil x 30 = 60 mil.....and Cube of Fate Stamps are running double (if not more) than that....
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Account stash. So Twilight nirvana is a definite possibility.

    Then why are you against bound items? It isn't CHARACTER bound, it's ACCOUNT bound. Which means with an account stash you can pass it around to ALL your characters on that ACCOUNT. b:pleased
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  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://pwcalc.com/d63f0867024805e2

    For the price you sell the Lunar Nirvana chest and legs for, you could buy 2 sets of R8 for your psychic and your venomancer. i would never recommend the lunar top over R8 even if you want to transfer it, you could possibly keep the pants but again selling both of them would easily afford R8 on both toons. Everything else is stashable.

    she has 3 chars to use this gear for not 2, and does that count the refine on each wep to +10 all the shards, and like she asked why legs from there?
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    What bottoms would you recommend using for the psychic? Since r8 bottoms are kind of trash for them.

    If your really adamant on the whole usable gears on everyone http://pwcalc.com/fefd61fe7bac072c would have to be it then, it might cost abit more so you may have to settle for +5 refines and R8 on the both, but assuming you buy all the nessasry stuff during sales (like orbs during orb sale, tokens during 75% off sale for gems) and farm certain green mats and such, i still think its doable.

    72 Gold for the R8.
    2m For the R8 Equipment.
    25m for the OHT Helmet.
    31m For the TT99.
    12m For the Necklace.
    20m For the Lunar Ring
    30m For 2 Sapphire gems
    6.6m For 6650 Tokens for the G9 gems.
    70m For the Warsong Belt.
    24 Gold For 9 lots of +5
    52.6 Gold For 9 lots of +6
    68.35 Gold For +7 to +10 weapon


    196.6m Coin & 216 Gold Total cost.
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  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »
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    lol.....maybe if you suck at cube or something but at most the back rooms take me 2 mil and it takes me like 10 mins to get through the first 50 (including a possible port or death). So 2 mil x 30 = 60 mil.....and Cube of Fate Stamps are running double (if not more) than that....

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23615

    Rotating Cog of Fate (30)

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha
    Warsoul: Vajra
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2)

    Warsoul coin cost alone:

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha 16.9m
    Warsoul: Vajra 16.9m
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2) 3.5m (7m)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2) 10.2m (20.4m)

    62m alone in warsoul materials plus the "2m" to complete assuming you dont **** up on EVERY run puts price at 122.2m, i dont know about your server but on Arch stamps are 95m

    Get of the forums please b:chuckle
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  • Celesse - Harshlands
    Celesse - Harshlands Posts: 92 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23615

    Rotating Cog of Fate (30)

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha
    Warsoul: Vajra
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2)

    Warsoul coin cost alone:

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha 16.9m
    Warsoul: Vajra 16.9m
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2) 3.5m (7m)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2) 10.2m (20.4m)

    62m alone in warsoul materials plus the "2m" to complete assuming you dont **** up on EVERY run puts price at 122.2m, i dont know about your server but on Arch stamps are 95m

    Get of the forums please b:chuckle

    Stamps are 160m here.... (Harshlands)
  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Celesse - Harshlands wrote: »
    Stamps are 160m here.... (Harshlands)

    answers clear then.... reroll arch! b:victoryb:victoryb:victory

    Anyway yea thats my recommendations, go for 2nd cast legs after, wont fit into thr 400m budget but is close to.
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  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    196.6m Coin & 216 Gold Total cost.

    is that per char? so with 3 chars that's well over budget even for one char since gold is no where near 1mil each

    also the crit arrow doesnt work, someone long ago did the testing to prove it / arrows only add their bonus when they are shot
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  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sympathi - Archosaur wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/23615

    Rotating Cog of Fate (30)

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha
    Warsoul: Vajra
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2)

    Warsoul coin cost alone:

    Warsoul: Ksitigarbha 16.9m
    Warsoul: Vajra 16.9m
    Warsoul: Avalokites (2) 3.5m (7m)
    Warsoul: Jakari (2) 10.2m (20.4m)

    62m alone in warsoul materials plus the "2m" to complete assuming you dont **** up on EVERY run puts price at 122.2m, i dont know about your server but on Arch stamps are 95m

    Get of the forums please b:chuckle

    **** o.O....I need to move to arch then D:::

    Their approaching 200 mil in some catshops here, and anybody trying to sell for quick is doing 140 mil D::::
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