Theater of Blood isnt fair

I agree, it would be more fun if I could do more than attempt to run away fast enough that rank 9s get bored and go after someone else when i'm on my sin. Some of the most fun I've had in there is fighting people around my own level and gear because they lasted longer than a one shot and it felt rewarding to win, or got my competitive spirit going when I lost. I don't even bother on my cleric, as she can't get away. I can usually get away from any rank 9s besides sins on my sin just by entering stealth and keeping deaden nerves up, and going to a different area. Nobody's going to waste apoth on a two shot. I think it would get more participants if they did level brackets, say 50-60, 70-80, 80-90, 90-100, 101+. Its usually pretty dead as well though.

We need an actual pvp arena that matches players on their lvl and their pvp points, kinda like in FW. That would be much more fun :P

SerenityCNB - Dreamweaver wrote: »

To be honest, unless you're epically geared, even at high levels its tough. My level 100 cleric is stalked in there, and one shot by some players...even if I didn't pick up a single item, I was still targeting and KOS'ed. I will admit that after a period of time, I got tired of farming only to be killed, and went to hunt the people that killed me. (That sin that did should have been dead. Stalking me around and hitting for 1 through plume shell. If you're reading this now my friend, when next we meet,...unless your gear gets better, the dead one will be you.)

That said, its a nice change of scenery, but at lower levels, you're not likely to survive. Without exceptional gear at higher levels, you're not likely to survive, and without nice refines, you're still not likely to survive. My Tt90 gear stands no chance from a R9 archer's bow, or a R9 wizards spells. I ending up having to AOE upon entering since one time, a sin was following me around in stealth, and popping out simply to kill me, and take my loot.

That said, its not fair for lowbies, low refined people, low geared people, etc. It's a nice change of scenery, but its not meant for more than that without epic gears. For me, I just have some people to KOS who were friends of mines when next I enter.

Hmm, that kinda would be solved with the level bracket. At 100 the most anyone would have is rank 8. Which while difficult, isn't completely impossible. Besides that, rank 8 isn't really all that hard to obtain. Being undergeared isn't something they can really fix. Being under level is though.

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Hmm, that kinda would be solved with the level bracket. At 100 the most anyone would have is rank 8. Which while difficult, isn't completely impossible. Besides that, rank 8 isn't really all that hard to obtain. Being undergeared isn't something they can really fix. Being under level is though.

^^ This

VenusArmani - Dreamweaver wrote: »

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I think it would get more participants if they did level brackets, say 50-60, 70-80, 80-90, 90-100, 101+. Its usually pretty dead as well though.

that is NOT a good lvl split in any shape or form and it's in fact the worse possible way to split the levels for ..anything. I'll let you figure out why.

FiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »

that is NOT a good lvl split in any shape or form and it's in fact the worse possible way to split the levels for ..anything. I'll let you figure out why.

1. The 50-60 range will be dominated by the 60s with their TT60 weapons.
2. The 60-70 range will be dominated by the 70s with their TT70 weapons and TT70 armors.
3. The 70-80 range will be dominated by the 80s with the TT80s and their TT80 gold armors.
4. The 80-90 range will be dominated by the 90s with their Demon and Sage skills, their TT90 armors and their TT90 weapons.
5. The 90-100 range will be dominated by the 100s with their Nirvana gear.
6. The 101 range will be dominated by the R9s.

In fact, it should be more like 55-65, 66-75, 76-84, 85-94, 95-99, 100+. Considering the gear changes anyway.

Bobobejumbo - Raging Tide wrote: »

Probably be better to follow another MMO's design in bracketing.

50-59
60-69
70-79
80-89
90-99
100+

level 99 is kind of the odd man out. It can't have a bracket by itself, would be a rather empty bracket then. It has an edge on the 90-98's because of TT99 gear, but would be destroyed by rank 8 and nirvana so it can't really be paired with 100 either.

The problem i saw with your suggestion is it still incorporates 2 different tiers of TT gear in a single bracket. And so the very thing you set out to change still exists.

There's problems with your brackets:
1. 50-59 will be dominated by the 59s due to level 59 skills
2. 70-79 will be dominated by the 79s due to level 79 skills
3. 80-89 will be dominated by the 89s due to level 89 skills and culti
4. 90-99 will be dominated by the 99s due to level 99 gear and skills

It's never going to work in a satisfactory way. So might as well not bother.

Nothing in life is fair.
Deal with it. b:cute

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's not necessarily the TT99, but it would result in some 4-5 aps BMs and Archers. And possibly 3.33 aps sins. You want to mix those with some poor TT90 wizards and clerics?

nope, and i agree, it would still be unfair

but i dont think the gap between them would be as bad as sticking the tt99 with the 100+

50-58
59-69 (TT60 weapon is fairly early in this, so it's not a major factor)
70-79 )79 skills are not that huge of a difference overall for most of the classes. Especially not at this low of a level.)
80-88
89-98 (I know I know. Lunars at 95 but it's not THAT bad unless highly refined and high refines would be powerful without the gear difference)
99+ (Because doing a 99, 100, and 101+ from the gear gaps between TT90s, TT99s, Nirvana/R8, and R9 is just annoying).


And at the end of the day, skills and gears between the brackets aren't gonna be as big of a deal as... say... that guy with the +12 4 socket JoSD cloudcharger in the low level brackets, or the guys running around with +10/12 warsoul helms from 70+ and the ones with the +10/12 cube/warsong stuff in the 80s brackets. That is gonna be where the biggest issues come from.

So really the only way to make it work while still keeping level brackets is to disallow any gear above a certain grade and refine so that everyone enters in relatively average gear and nobody has a huge advantage over others outside of class and skill.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would like you to meet Mr Assassin.

... I hate you, yet at the same time I love you. May as well add in the other buffs and stuff!

DUBZZ - Archosaur wrote: »

Dont know if this was ever posted i dont post much on forums, but I just got done with theater of blood, and it just doesnt seem fair for the lowbies. I know its a pk event, and you go in there killing or being killed, I just think they should have 2 versions of it 1 for the high lvls and 1 for the mid lvls-low lvls. It's kinda funny watching a lv 100+ sin kill a lv 70 or so cleric when the cleric is just farming mobs in there lol.

Post ur thoughts on this ty.

I can understand this, I seen dubbz in the event a few times in the event. I leave people I can 1-2 shot alone mostly unless I can tell their a bigger player. Unless I'm attacked 1st. If your r8/9+10-12 why are you farming low lvl people? Why are you ganking lol? Funny to watch a r9+10 sin and a r8+9 sin gank one seeker and fail at it. Lol a low lvling hitting me doesn't hurt much. I just walk off, may be a charm tick just walking offf letting them hit me but I'm in it for the fun of the event not to kill people who have no chance agaist me. If your OP or decently strong do you feel ashamed of yourself killing someone in their 60-89's? I seen so many people stop doing the event cause a sin pops out and kill you or you get hit by an r9 wiz or something. (Shout out to junkies b:laugh you damn gankers) but in all fun....can't have fun when your always out matched.