4.0 base, deicide sin

_DieHarD - Dreamweaver
_DieHarD - Dreamweaver Posts: 12 Arc User
edited January 2012 in Assassin
Hi all,

so, im here to ask u pro sins, if is worth an deicide sin xD, cause im rolling an toon for farming purposes, and i have an 88 bm(i know that on avatar shows 61 but im 88 b:surrender), and 86 sin.

I got some +7 deicides with perfect garnet gem that i bought for bm, but i was playing on pwcalc and saw that a sin with r8+deicides= 4.0 base> http://pwcalc.com/79710ad42a1cde33

So, is worth an deicide sin? 4.0 is permaspark. And the damage isnt that low compared to the gear im aiming for bm, and the sin have better crit xD> http://pwcalc.com/1e9e290aaa3c19a0

I cant afford nirvy legs now, so on bm i'd use the HA legs to the 0.05 bonus. and the bm build is way cheaper than sin, but as i told i got the deicides, the helm,cape and the LA boots and bracers, so need your opinion, is the 4.0 base sin doing more damage then my 2.86 base bm with lvl 10 mastery? with 4.0 base with deicides i could solo fc w/o problems?

Ty, and sorry for english mistakes( brazilian here xD)
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Your BM would have ~63k DPS.
    Your sin would have ~57k DPS.

    Both of them would have 4.0 aps.

    Also, for soloing FCC, being sin isn't an advantage, as you'll have to kill the mobs if you plan to sell the heads.

    I see no reason to go with the sin.

    And for the record, your sin would have ~71k DPS if you went with a +5 R8 dagger.
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  • Niteshadows - Harshlands
    Niteshadows - Harshlands Posts: 583 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    bms r better for dealing with groups of mobs.
    sins r better for dealing with a mob one on one, and perhaps a little bit more.

    i'd stay with the suggested gear for the sin for daggers deal way more dmg then fists/claws and give a higher critting possibility.

    plus they allow u to use skills.
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  • deathrider35
    deathrider35 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Wouldnt it be best to have sin kill bosses and shades, and when you finish, use bm to clear mobs to heads. You get best of both world's that way. You can also multiclient so u don't reset instance when swiching to sin/bm.
  • Princece - Harshlands
    Princece - Harshlands Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _DieHarD - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Hi all,

    so, im here to ask u pro sins, if is worth an deicide sin xD, cause im rolling an toon for farming purposes, and i have an 88 bm(i know that on avatar shows 61 but im 88 b:surrender), and 86 sin.

    I got some +7 deicides with perfect garnet gem that i bought for bm, but i was playing on pwcalc and saw that a sin with r8+deicides= 4.0 base> http://pwcalc.com/79710ad42a1cde33

    So, is worth an deicide sin? 4.0 is permaspark. And the damage isnt that low compared to the gear im aiming for bm, and the sin have better crit xD> http://pwcalc.com/1e9e290aaa3c19a0

    I cant afford nirvy legs now, so on bm i'd use the HA legs to the 0.05 bonus. and the bm build is way cheaper than sin, but as i told i got the deicides, the helm,cape and the LA boots and bracers, so need your opinion, is the 4.0 base sin doing more damage then my 2.86 base bm with lvl 10 mastery? with 4.0 base with deicides i could solo fc w/o problems?

    Ty, and sorry for english mistakes( brazilian here xD)

    please quit the game D: honestly...
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  • Cinderball - Raging Tide
    Cinderball - Raging Tide Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    If you want the best farming character for FC, like everybody else said you'd be better off just sticking with the bm or using daggers with your sin. The only way I can see a claw sin being a better choice as an alt for farming than a pure sin would be if the bm had highly refined APS gears that could be stashed to make a strength based sin at 5APS sparked with CoTD. Doing that would be useful for extra nirvana runs without spending the extra coin to gear and refine a pure sin.
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  • FiveAps - Dreamweaver
    FiveAps - Dreamweaver Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    are you guys serious or just trolling the poor man?
    Sins farm FC in half the time needed for a BM to do it. The only mobs you need to kill as sin are the ones on the main hallway up to big room. The rest of it is stealth -kill boss with the occasional "open door".

    As a Bm to farm FC you need to clean pretty much the whole thing.
    DON'T use deicide on a sin. Do this
    http://pwcalc.com/f008faddbafb729b
    shard it, refine it to a +3, get buffed and farming FC to sell big room will be a 30 minute job at most.
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  • Olbaze - Sanctuary
    Olbaze - Sanctuary Posts: 4,242 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    FiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    are you guys serious or just trolling the poor man?
    Sins farm FC in half the time needed for a BM to do it. The only mobs you need to kill as sin are the ones on the main hallway up to big room. The rest of it is stealth -kill boss with the occasional "open door".

    Only true if you're not planning to sell the heads. If you do, then you have to clean the same mobs as the BM. Which is rather tiresome since the AoEs of a sin kinda suck.
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  • FiveAps - Dreamweaver
    FiveAps - Dreamweaver Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    yeah, you have to clean same mobs up to the door of big room. Then stealth the rest of the way.
    BM has to clean the whole FC to be able to sell big room. Sure, BMs have better aoe, but while a BM cleans the halway from goonz boss to bishop one I already killed both goonz and bishop bosses and I'm well on my way to slash.
    I farmed a lot of FC with a +10 deicide BM with way better HP, defenses and crit than the OP build , while using a +5 R8 poleaxe for AOE. I could pull full hallways but still I could not make a better time than my 3.33 r8+5 (at the time) sin.
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  • XxRagzxx - Sanctuary
    XxRagzxx - Sanctuary Posts: 258 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Princece - Harshlands wrote: »
    please quit the game D: honestly...

    Took the words right out of my mouth xDD
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  • Geshwur - Raging Tide
    Geshwur - Raging Tide Posts: 570 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    FiveAps - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    farming FC to sell big room will be a 30 minute job at most.



    ... 30 minutes? -.- IJS At 4APS G15 sac +10 it takes me a little over 30... -.- There's no way a 2.86 APS R8 +5 can do FC in 30 minutes... Unless of course you have infinite holy path and 150 attack levels... 90% of 5APS sins on RT take more than 30 minutes to clear an FC... (including big room boss and mobs ofc.) Even if I use my Barriers, 2 soc +11 w/ Grnet Gems, I 'm doing good to do in less than 25.
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  • Salari - Raging Tide
    Salari - Raging Tide Posts: 2,102 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    My record is 23 mins with g13's @ +10 and 2x +75 att shards 53 att lvl's. That does not include clearing mobs, but does include last boss and mobs, just leaving heads for nablets.
    I don't sell heads anymore, its a waste of time and there are easier ways to make more coin than selling heads. Just the other day I made 3mil coins in a few mins. All it took was buying a few items from one catshop and selling the same items to a catshop directly beside it b:laugh b:thanks

    But beyond something that silly, farming other instances and merchanting are quite easier and less boreing than heads
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  • ArkangelAles - Raging Tide
    ArkangelAles - Raging Tide Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Ok son, just be proud of ur daggers dont go decides or claw.. u be doing alot of farming at high lvls.. just go pure dex, good refines in dagers,HP charm and u be rolling Fc in no time one u get R8. i soloed FC at lvl95 and its not worth the cost on my server FC heads cost 250k each.. so juts lvl and get ur self decent gear bro
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Princece - Harshlands wrote: »
    [COLOR=""]please quit the game D: honestly...[/COLOR]

    The reason I solo 90%+ of the time is because of either all of the fails playing this game, or the ones that tolerate them. I'd rather have an aps/vit/str barb or a non aps BM than a claw sin in any squad. Have fun being dependent on other fails if you go with claw.
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