Do alot of ppl still play this

PWI still got alot of ppls, new comes all the time even tho alot leave ontop.
Its a bit 2 spread out on the amount of servers we got but yea..

2 years ago, Etherblade had catshops that flooded the entire place. Now there's only 4 shops...

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

The lack of character at the BH NPC is due to head sellers. I literally have seen a 90s Seeker complaining that they can't do FCC because no one is doing it.

As for Nirvana, we're getting 2x pretty often so people just opt to farm during the 2x rather than normally.

Neither of these has anything to do with the number of players more, it's just that the situation has changed.

"91 Wizard looking for FC (The kind you dont pay for)" has become my normal WC for my wiz. I dont even think about BH anymore, less chance and less exp b:surrenderb:cryb:surrender

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

You contradict yourself here. So there's nobody doing BH because they're doing FCC, but you've seen people complaining they can't do FCC because no one is doing it?

Read it again.

No one is doing lower level BHs because they are busy buying heads.
No one is also doing 80-95 FCCs because they're busy buying heads.

Head seller parties used to sell out fast. You'd see someone WC for a run, and you wouldn't see them spamming WC. Now, you see a half dozen different people spamming WC for hours trying to sell runs.

Indeed, you do. But that's because there's more sellers, thus more parties that need to be filled. So the supply of parties goes up, but the demand really does not, because new players can't afford heads and old players wouldn't pay, they'd do alt FCCs.

So my personal observations stand. Less people doing BH and less people doing FCC? Less people playing.

More like less mid-level people. Which is because they all leveled up.

So, most chars are active during 2x, and when they're not, they're inactive...

But what measure is inactive? Personally, I only log on to check AH and do BH now that I'm not merchanting. I would still count myself as active since I'm just waiting for a good sale so that I can put up my merchant catshop.

You're confusing. xP

The day has come when my insanity is so great that even M_D can't decipher it? Damn, I must be really good.

The largest changes you can observe in WC are:
1. Massive lack of WCs for low-to-mid level BHs.
2. Head sellers are mostly doing 70-99 levels.
3. No Nirvana unless it's 2x drops
4. No TTs unless it's for Chrono

All of these point to lots of efficiency-oriented high levels.

Michael_Dark - Lost City wrote: »

I read it several times. Thank you for clarifying. I was talking about end-gamers, not mid-levels. I don't think many would argue mid-game has been pretty much dead on all the servers for at least a year.

Depends where you put the line for mid-game. I was about level 80 a year ago and I got to 100 pretty smoothly.

That sounds pretty close to inactive to me. I don't consider merchanting 24/7 to be active.

I do, as long as I care about the losses I make.

Oh, and to your other points, I didn't answer them because I wasn't really talking about the whole lack of mid-level activity. I'm talking about the number of people in the building. Clearly this game is nowhere near as populated as it was in 09/10. As to whether this trend has continued, I think it has, some don't. That's where we disagree.

Exactly. My point is that the mid-level population has leveled up to 100 and hasn't been replaced by a new generation of mid-level players as is obvious by the lack of mid-level activities on WC.

And I don't really have a stance as to whether the servers are more populated or not, I just wanted to point out that your observations could simply be tied to the population leveling up without it being replaced by a new generation.

Thus, I'd say that the best way to gauge player activity would be TW and PvP, being that they are the primary endgame activities during non-2x. And at least looking at Sanctuary's TWs, the amount of TWs has gone down by a lot.

At Sundown town, moving on to Kings Feast soon.

All around, no one around.

^(when will these people figure out that their antics is not funny in the slightest...)

@TE

The pressure of being high refined and rank geared is kinda high nowdays if you wanna do any sort of pvp.

But still a lot of people play this game and even if the numbers decreasing it dosnt matter as you have some focus points where everyone meets while other areas are deserted.

PWI is still worth a try but if you really start from zero you better get into a helpful faction asap and make some buddys because this game is horribly boring and hard if you have no friends and just wanna level from zero the old fashioned way by doing quests and grinding because you wont find any partys at lower level.

Olbaze - Sanctuary wrote: »

I do, as long as I care about the losses I make.

Since this is an MMO, I consider "active" being out and sociable. There is a lot less of that than there used to be.

Exactly. My point is that the mid-level population has leveled up to 100 and hasn't been replaced by a new generation of mid-level players as is obvious by the lack of mid-level activities on WC.

And I don't really have a stance as to whether the servers are more populated or not, I just wanted to point out that your observations could simply be tied to the population leveling up without it being replaced by a new generation.

Thus, I'd say that the best way to gauge player activity would be TW and PvP, being that they are the primary endgame activities during non-2x. And at least looking at Sanctuary's TWs, the amount of TWs has gone down by a lot.

I wish I could say that a "lot of people" still play, but that's very subjective depending on server and when you actually started to play. And, I'm no stranger to making unbiased decisions based on detailed observations, that's been an actual job numerous times. I could write a novel. But this is a silly aging game, not worth more bother than taking up a little bit of free time. lol

The population is definitely at its lowest.