Why is this game unbalanced?

Olivassin - Heavens Tear
Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
edited February 2012 in General Discussion
edit: guys... this is not a rant, or Q.Q or whatever. Is just a reflexion :3. I'm enjoying so much the other PW. Don't say i'm ranting plz : ). (Sorry to put this up here, but then lazy people wouldn't read it :P)


Duh... i'm sure people will say that's obvious... because of sins

well, kinda :o. There's anotherthing that's really obvious... it is CS!

uhmm interesting :o. I come here back from another server in another company that holds PW, so i really can't mention it. But the server is sooo new and the GMs are soooo noob there, that within 1.5 months, the CS is not still ready.

It's an official server (not a private one)(and they have all 10 classes), but i'm really worried that we only got 1 patch by the very start of the game, and then we only got patch-less routine maintenance every thursday. The game is still buggy, and GMs seem like they don't care at all. Oh well...

They have a provisional made CS in their web.... something like DQ rewards, but you have to pay $ or take many surveys to use it.... here's a list of what's being sold there:
(I put the cost in PWI gold)
-> 1 set of fashion (well, 1 for male chars, another for female chars) 10 Gold
-> 1* Dragon orbs, 89 silver each one
-> Tienkang stones, 2 Gold 49 silver each one
-> Guardian Scroll, 59 silver
-> HyperEXP Stone, 69 Silver
-> Safe/Inventory Stone, 3 Gold each
-> Cupboard/Wardrobe Stone, 4 Gold each
-> Bronze HP/MP charm, 49 Silver each
-> Basic reset note - 2 Gold
-> Lowest quality mats - 89 Silver (each mat!!)
-> Fireworks, 1 Silver

So no mounts -yet- (none of both, ground and flying) ._. ppl is really pissed about that

About balancing breaking items, out of HyperEXP Stones (will talk later about them), you see that they don't have:
-> Oracles
-> Packs
-> Oracles from tokens
-> Crab meat / 5k MP pot
-> Super cheap gems
-> Engame Gear
Plus, you see that prices are extremely high. People on that server Q.Q about their economy being weaker than USA (i.e. they get less $ each month), and prices are 2-5 times more expensive than PWI version.

About HyperEXP stones, they're not as worth as they are here. You see? here you do some FFs and you lvl up like crazy. For some glitch we have there, HyperEXP is disabled in FF. So FFs are not worth to go for exp at all.

What we have so we can lvl up is 3 Lag-o-saur 1-hour invasions each week. (To lvl up, i rather have Hyper into FF, tbh).

Also, Holding territories give 150 Mirages instead of 10 Milion coins :3.

Oh and right at the top of it, level is capped at 89. You reach 89 and you don't get EXP, like you were lvl105. You can get Sage/Demon culti, with 3x spark and lvl89 skills though. GMs say that 'very soon' (like frankie says, and it's after 3-4 months b:chuckle) we will get a big patch, fixing 'all' the glitches and raising the lvl cap to 105 as 'other' servers, and they will include the CS in-game.

Well, what's the point of all this thread? Is to say that there... on that small server... lays the awesomely balanced PvP. I am really surprised. Every class has its own powerfulness/weakness into PvP. Every class is strong against another and is weak for the other one.

I'm really enjoying that gameplay. My char there is a lvl81 Mystic... and i go daily to Ashura event (the arena thingy). You see everyone dieing, and everyone killing. What makes a bit difference is the lvl there (or because the gears, but since there're no packs, everyone farms for his own, or for friends).

I remember going into Ashura here. I probably went once or twice, since my rank8 lvl100 BM gets pwn3d by any rank9 class that goes in there. Persoanlly i don't find the fun there.

Here though, it's fun for PvE... You kill bosses so fast, and this makes you 'happy'. But PvP wise? lmao....

Conclusion: Sins are not breaking the balance -at all-. CS does break the balance, or maybe the combination of both. We hope that the next expansion, will make things more balanced :o

Just a brief reflexion.... This threat will probably get locked, even though i tried not to break any rule :3.

edit2: I forgot to say that i wouldn't recommend playing there though. GMs suck, and i'm sorry.... but they don't even speak the playerbase language o.o. They use google translate to comunicate with us... such lame, isn't it? :D
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  • Hideori - Lost City
    Hideori - Lost City Posts: 530 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    because developers are idiots.
  • LyuKang - Sanctuary
    LyuKang - Sanctuary Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    There is so many things wrong with this game, that I don't even know from where to begin with...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] <--- One of the devs trying to fix the game. b:pleased

    lvl 100 unbiased all path sage bm.

    Currently waiting for them to take their sweet time to fix my avatar...
  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    This has been ranted about since the end of the Mesozoic era...
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    About HyperEXP stones, they're not as worth as they are here. You see? here you do some FFs and you lvl up like crazy. For some glitch we have there, HyperEXP is disabled in FF. So FFs are not worth to go for exp at all.

    Sounds like leftovers from whatever version of the translated pwcn they got (probably same reason why the newer servers here had anti-bot messages or chinese red spam).
    What we have so we can lvl up is 3 Lag-o-saur 1-hour invasions each week. (To lvl up, i rather have Hyper into FF, tbh).

    Those aren't so bad.
    Also, Holding territories give 150 Mirages instead of 10 Milion coins :3.

    They really haven't updated in a while then.
    Oh and right at the top of it, level is capped at 89. You reach 89 and you don't get EXP, like you were lvl105. You can get Sage/Demon culti, with 3x spark and lvl89 skills though. GMs say that 'very soon' (like frankie says, and it's after 3-4 months b:chuckle) we will get a big patch, fixing 'all' the glitches and raising the lvl cap to 105 as 'other' servers, and they will include the CS in-game.

    lul
    Well, what's the point of all this thread? Is to say that there... on that small server... lays the awesomely balanced PvP. I am really surprised. Every class has its own powerfulness/weakness into PvP. Every class is strong against another and is weak for the other one.

    I'm really enjoying that gameplay. My char there is a lvl81 Mystic... and i go daily to Ashura event (the arena thingy). You see everyone dieing, and everyone killing. What makes a bit difference is the lvl there (or because the gears, but since there're no packs, everyone farms for his own, or for friends).

    It's only a matter of time before they stop being lazy and add in packs/medals/rep badges.
    Enjoy it while you can.
    Conclusion: Sins are not breaking the balance -at all-. CS does break the balance, or maybe the combination of both. We hope that the next expansion, will make things more balanced :o

    It's more of a combo.
    The fcc mob glitching had a good part in it as well.
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  • Olivassin - Heavens Tear
    Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    They really haven't updated in a while then.
    Nah, when that server started, in PWI you were getting coins. Might be that the rollback that PWI got was exclusive for him (something like DQ Point system maybe?), and since that new server got directly from china, it has this 'system' :o
    It's only a matter of time before they stop being lazy and add in packs/medals/rep badges.
    Enjoy it while you can.

    Oh yeah, i know : P. That's why i'm enjoying it so much now, i know that sooner or later they will destroy that perfection b:chuckle

    thx for the advice though :3
  • godsmartyr
    godsmartyr Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    What's the name of this PW; sounds more fun than PWI.
    Retired Jan 2010.
    Sins = Do not want.
    You think winning a dead game matters?
    I pity you.
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    godsmartyr wrote: »
    What's the name of this PW; sounds more fun than PWI.

    While the op stated he wouldn't mention due to concerns with the rules here, considering it's another official version of pw, I don't think there should be too many issues with that.
    I mean I talk about pwcn all the time... And I have seen people link to other versions of official pw.

    I could be wrong though.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Divine_Death - Harshlands
    Divine_Death - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    PM me name/link of this version? Idgaf if the GMs are "noob" there since I doubt I'd notice a difference from what we currently have.
  • Viriilink - Lost City
    Viriilink - Lost City Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Base on prices that is Perfect World Spain.
  • Kimi - Dreamweaver
    Kimi - Dreamweaver Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I didn't read all that. b:surrender
  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Oh and right at the top of it, level is capped at 89. You reach 89 and you don't get EXP, like you were lvl105. You can get Sage/Demon culti, with 3x spark and lvl89 skills though. GMs say that 'very soon' (like frankie says, and it's after 3-4 months b:chuckle) we will get a big patch, fixing 'all' the glitches and raising the lvl cap to 105 as 'other' servers, and they will include the CS in-game.

    Well, what's the point of all this thread? Is to say that there... on that small server... lays the awesomely balanced PvP. I am really surprised. Every class has its own powerfulness/weakness into PvP. Every class is strong against another and is weak for the other one.

    Well, since you can't use Rank 9 at level 89, I'd imagine that would have something to do with your balanced PVP. b:chuckle
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Suranda - Sanctuary
    Suranda - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Dude you don't know unbalanced until you play on a private server with R10 gear and other stupidly over powered **** >_<. And you can get those pretty much effortless! Some even have ATTACK/DEFENSE levels disabled and it's still unfair as heck.
    Main: Alsiadorra - 101 seeker - Proud Marshall of Seagods
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Dude you don't know unbalanced until you play on a private server with R10 gear and other stupidly over powered **** >_<. And you can get those pretty much effortless! Some even have ATTACK/DEFENSE levels disabled and it's still unfair as heck.

    Does R10 actually exist or is it something created by the people hosting the private server?
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  • Suranda - Sanctuary
    Suranda - Sanctuary Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I believe it was created. Now all of them are this "broken". I am referring to one in particular. I can't name it here though.
    Main: Alsiadorra - 101 seeker - Proud Marshall of Seagods
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    When people walk away from you, let them go... your destiny is never tied to anyone who leaves you.. and it doesn't mean they are bad people.. It just means that their part in your story is over... - Mayatheia - Heavens Tear
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Senlyn is still the best version of PW available. b:bye

    I bet if all the people who wanted a cash shop free version of the game played the population wouldn't be slowly dying.
  • Olivassin - Heavens Tear
    Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    While the op stated he wouldn't mention due to concerns with the rules here, considering it's another official version of pw, I don't think there should be too many issues with that.
    I mean I talk about pwcn all the time... And I have seen people link to other versions of official pw.

    I could be wrong though.

    You be wrong. PW-CN is an exception, because it's like our big mother (when we talk about PW-CN is what's comming here into a future)..

    But what i can say is.... Bingo!!! [and quote another's player reply :3]
    Base on prices that is Perfect World Spain.
  • Bubbles - Morai
    Bubbles - Morai Posts: 1,143 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I believe it was created. Now all of them are this "broken". I am referring to one in particular. I can't name it here though.

    There is no real r10, maybe a fake or made up one.
    It has to exist on wanmei before a p server can get it.
    Prove me wrong with pics if you think otherwise.
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  • Olivassin - Heavens Tear
    Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Sorry about necro-ing this thread, but i feel like its so related, and since i'm the OP...

    Well, that version just happened to become more bull**** than pwi b:chuckle, they messed up some things some time ago, and today they made a 1-week rollback.... I'm glad i quited last week : P.

    Plus we don't get updates since 3 months now, so you can guess that version is dead. Well... we got an update, but not a good one... CashShop in-game... as any other company they just are stuck in making people pay, instead of fixing bugs (or trying not to rollback 1 week without any information about it).

    Oh yeah, and forum is comparable to a dictatorship, if anyone makes a simple complain about the company, that thread gets deleted b:shocked

    IMO... there's no good company for playing PW now... ima take a break and wait for GW 2 =D
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    This isn't a necro. The last post in the thread isn't more than 30 days old at this point. Just saying. xP


    I bet if all the people who wanted a cash shop free version of the game played the population wouldn't be slowly dying.

    Of course not, but PW wouldn't be making money directly from them, so it doesn't matter to them.

    At some point they forgot that they need a large pool of casual f2p players to make a game like this survive in the long run.
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  • Olivassin - Heavens Tear
    Olivassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    LMAAAOOOOOO

    This patch also takes a 'anti-addiction system'... you get kicked out from server after 3 hours of log in.

    Bye bye to old school Rebirths, cat-shop nights, etc etc.... each time i look what's happening it's more clear it's not worth to play in AeriaGames.

    edit: lol... and if you happened to put more than 3 hours in safety lock, you can't switch it off *giggle*
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Because we aren't PW-CN
    BladedZero - Sanctuary
    "Also I don't think actually playing through the game helps your skill either."

    -And we wonder why this game has gone to hell b:cute
  • hiddenmonkey
    hiddenmonkey Posts: 179 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Because if it was balanced you'd be QQing every week about something getting nerfed to make it fair for everyone else.