R8 archer vs R8 wiz

Imho, assuming both archer and wizard are +12 full JOSD, a skilled wizard who knows their genie will have the advantage.

But if we are talking +12 R9, winning can also be attributed to things like stupid luck with purging and critting.

So this question is really kind of worthless isnt it? <.>

EDIT: LOL just realized I misread the title, it says R8 not R9. Derp. Disregard this post >.>

with buffs wizard

without buffs archer so long as wiz doesn't get "lucky" crit

I'ma go with Archer if they're Demon with QS.

Otherwise, Wizard.

Good one. Goes down to 2 things imo.

Build. If both are pure build. If either of them added a ridiculous amount of vit or str or whatever.

First shot. First dmg is pretty important in this particular scenario.

Assuming both are built pure, and both players are skilled; I'd give the advantage 3/2 for Wizard.

Its a matter of luck really.

Whoever manages to seal/stun first shall be the winner. That wizard's sleep is fairly quick channeling and oft times a wizard will 1 hit or 2 hit you. Then again, you can also get lucky and crit one-shot them. If you are fighting starting at max range I would give the advantage to the archer. If you are fighting near each other (like in a duel), I give advantage to the wiz.


Source: Me and my brother are an archer/wizard duo. Both r8. Same refines.

Vindis - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Its a matter of luck really.

Whoever manages to seal/stun first shall be the winner. That wizard's sleep is fairly quick channeling and oft times a wizard will 1 hit or 2 hit you. Then again, you can also get lucky and crit one-shot them. If you are fighting starting at max range I would give the advantage to the archer. If you are fighting near each other (like in a duel), I give advantage to the wiz.


Source: Me and my brother are an archer/wizard duo. Both r8. Same refines.

Mountain's Seize has a longer range than all of an Archer's skills, plus it stuns. So how would this favor the archer? The stun would give them enough time to Distance Shrink in, sleep, then roflsauce the archer before they knew what happened. An r8 archer is at a huge disadvantage without a purge in the first place. Not to mention if the wizard has demon stone barrier and is a pdef build wizard. IMO hands down the wizard would easily be able to take the archer out. Now if the archer had a HS and could kite around a bit, get a stunning arrow, qs proc, plus a purge in there, game over for the wizzie.

Personally, most of my pk kills are Stunning Arrow, QS proc, double crit KOs and is over just as fast as it started, but then again, my main PKing was with a HS before everyone AND their mom had r9.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »

Mountain's Seize has a longer range than all of an Archer's skills, plus it stuns. So how would this favor the archer? The stun would give them enough time to Distance Shrink in, sleep, then roflsauce the archer before they knew what happened. An r8 archer is at a huge disadvantage without a purge in the first place. Not to mention if the wizard has demon stone barrier and is a pdef build wizard. IMO hands down the wizard would easily be able to take the archer out. Now if the archer had a HS and could kite around a bit, get a stunning arrow, qs proc, plus a purge in there, game over for the wizzie.

Personally, most of my pk kills are Stunning Arrow, QS proc, double crit KOs and is over just as fast as it started, but then again, my main PKing was with a HS before everyone in their mom had r9.

you missed the r8 in the title?

I 1-2 shot other r8s, little kiting involved. I don't even have +10 bow lol. And who honestly uses primarily physical attacks on well geared wizards (cut their m def with Thundershock)? And who lets a wiz chan a full MS? Chan time on MS is long enough where you wouldnt want them to cast it even if they sutra. If you cant pop Aim Low when you see that little casting circle animation, you got some problems b:bye

Heres a nice kill combo on any r8 wiz from max range:

Aim low. normals for 6 seconds, stun, normals. If it isnt dead yet you did something wrong. b:bye

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »

before everyone in their mom

Ok either hes talking about unborn fetuses, or something horrribly, horribly wrong.

XxRagzxx - Sanctuary wrote: »

I did state about the r8, you missed the part where i said archer's are at more of a disadvantage when they don't have a purge bow. Also, last time i checked, aim low has never worked for its amount of time. Not saying it is impossible for an r8 archer to kill a wizzie, I just think it would be more difficult. TBH though, I don't think many archers would think to use their metal attacks against a wizzie. I throw in a few here and there on some AA classes, pending what I'm in the mood for.

I would say about 85% of Sanctuary uses citrines being AA, so the pure physical attacks would be more benificial for the archer IMO. I have no clue how most people shard on other servers. I'm more of a get def out of shards, and HP out of refines kind of person when it comes to AA.

I don't have a purge bow and I can kill plenty of stuff.

And most casters on DW shard half garnets for TW/pvp. At least most casters I know do. Especailly Wizzies.

Mostly though i dont even stumble on them and just move on to other things (my pvp experience is mostly TW related though I have been doing Theatre of Blood lately; Open PK is mostly r9s on my server so I don't bother)