5.0 Nurfed?

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  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Kehrendorh - Archosaur wrote: »
    Do people sit around when they are bored and think of posts that are going to 1) induce massive QQ'ing, 2) get closed, or 3) be a repeat of a gazillion other threads previously posted?

    b:surrender

    There's obviously a big problem if there is a gazillion other threads like it.
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  • Tsukyini - Raging Tide
    Tsukyini - Raging Tide Posts: 1,766 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Lost City wrote: »
    There's obviously a big problem if there is a gazillion other threads like it.

    It doesn't take a huge problem to get QQ threads started. b:surrender
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  • Alsiadorra - Sanctuary
    Alsiadorra - Sanctuary Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    laloner wrote: »
    I think the fairest solution is to leave aps alone and institute a spark cooldown.

    Sages already have a cooldown..... I kid ;p.

    Fantastic nerf: Regular attacks no longer generate chi!


    /runs far away from thread
  • Zenorx - Harshlands
    Zenorx - Harshlands Posts: 443 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    ResMePls - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Merchant scammers? Kinda reminds me 0f that nub in W0rld chat selling +10 G0ren0x Vanity f0r 85mil.....N0w that was hilari0us.

    Pfff

    Today I saw a catshop selling a +10 FC gold Axe (pangu giant axe) for 130MIL!
    I lol'd
  • J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear
    J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I do not know, why 5 aps should be nerfed.... or why spark should be nerfed...or chi regeneration.

    i would rather give casters some skills that hit the enemies 5 times a second.... but that might just be me....

    imagine a skill for wiz/psy that got a channel time of 2 secs cast time of 1.5 secs, cooldown xx secs and hits the enemie 5 times in a second over a total time of 5 + secs. now give those casters like 4-5 skills of that type and there you go, dont need to nerf aps or spark + you might make sins/bms/barbs/venos/archers QQ
  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I do not know, why 5 aps should be nerfed.... or why spark should be nerfed...or chi regeneration.

    i would rather give casters some skills that hit the enemies 5 times a second.... but that might just be me....

    imagine a skill for wiz/psy that got a channel time of 2 secs cast time of 1.5 secs, cooldown xx secs and hits the enemie 5 times in a second over a total time of 5 + secs. now give those casters like 4-5 skills of that type and there you go, dont need to nerf aps or spark + you might make sins/bms/barbs/venos/archers QQ

    On one hand I'd love to see Arcanes hitting 12mil HP Bosses as fast and hard as APS classes without having to use Mana. Would um... Balance things a little.

    But on the other hand... How are you going to do that on a caster class? Casters use mana... IDK.

    Gaining no chi while sparked hurts those with less APS way the **** more than 5.0. My Archer, at 100, will be 5.0 base. Not having to rely on Spark to get APS means I'd be able to spark way more often than any sin, since Sins would essentially be 5.0 but gain no chi, go back to 3.33 or 4.0 base, gain chi, then spark for 5.0.

    On my Barb, I went Demon Axe APS build. Without spark, my build would be totally useless, I might as well delete the character.

    I've got a 4.0 Sage Sin for farming and TW. Sage Spark keeps my butt alive. There are bosses that would kill me quite quickly without Sage Spark, but with it, I can solo them.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
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  • Xainou - Sanctuary
    Xainou - Sanctuary Posts: 5,369 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    J_Voorhees - Heavens Tear wrote: »
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    imagine a skill for wiz/psy that got a channel time of 2 secs cast time of 1.5 secs, cooldown xx secs and hits the enemie 5 times in a second over a total time of 5 + secs. now give those casters like 4-5 skills of that type and there you go, dont need to nerf aps or spark + you might make sins/bms/barbs/venos/archers QQ

    And then you got the situation reverted. And the problem private servers have. Magic classes that can just literally faceroll you in PVP. Do not want.
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    On one hand I'd love to see Arcanes hitting 12mil HP Bosses as fast and hard as APS classes without having to use Mana. Would um... Balance things a little.

    But on the other hand... How are you going to do that on a caster class? Casters use mana... IDK.

    Gaining no chi while sparked hurts those with less APS way the **** more than 5.0. My Archer, at 100, will be 5.0 base. Not having to rely on Spark to get APS means I'd be able to spark way more often than any sin, since Sins would essentially be 5.0 but gain no chi, go back to 3.33 or 4.0 base, gain chi, then spark for 5.0.

    On my Barb, I went Demon Axe APS build. Without spark, my build would be totally useless, I might as well delete the character.

    I've got a 4.0 Sage Sin for farming and TW. Sage Spark keeps my butt alive. There are bosses that would kill me quite quickly without Sage Spark, but with it, I can solo them.

    duh your a squeshy sin your NOT sopused to SOLO bosses.
    i would welcome no chi from spark with open arms better yet no spark at allb:laugh.
    how would the game be without spark.
    b:surrender do we have to go back to spamming skill again without the sparks
  • Bunny_slayer - Harshlands
    Bunny_slayer - Harshlands Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    They nerf things that people can use to get items without spending real money. IJS.

    This x 9001
  • Lenestro - Sanctuary
    Lenestro - Sanctuary Posts: 490 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    wtf

    My BARB hits over 40k.

    derp he meant in pvp.
  • _blood_rain - Sanctuary
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary Posts: 2,532 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Lenestro - Sanctuary wrote: »
    derp he meant in pvp.

    Keep in mind, that is coming from the person who claims to have soloed a +12 R9 archer with a +6 CV 9x's archer.
  • Hazarduz - Heavens Tear
    Hazarduz - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Well heres my $0.02, just for the heck of it.....

    Should 5 APS be nerfed? Heck no! Its always been in the game and wasn't an issue before. I knew a 4APS fist BM, back in the day when even genies hadnt been released.

    True the pack have made 5APS a lot easier to acquire nowadays, but its not really the 5APS system thats the problem.

    IMHO, the problem is that while in the old days, too much DD means u died, nowadays too much DD means u tank better. The skill that made this possible? BLOODPAINT.

    I see 2 ways to 'reset' the game back to its original state, where not every tom **** and harry (wether he be a archer, BM, barb, sin or whatever) opts to be a fist/claw wearing APS DD.

    1. Make bloodpaint a self buff for sins. This will ensure that all DDs are not automatially all tanks.

    OR, and even better:

    2. Make APS a -interval % rather than a set -interval. That way a person using -interval equip will get a proportonate increase from whatever weapon he be using: axes, bows, swords, what have you.

    That way, those who spent on APS already, keep their APS and wont QQ. (They happy).
    More will be encouraged to spend on -int% gear (PWI happy).
    We wont be barbs/archers/BMs all wearing just decides anymore (Im happy! b:laugh)


    I mean seriously, a barb with 5APS fists (0 fist msatery) will outdmg a barb using the same -int gear with axes (and lvl11 axe mastery). There has to something definitely wrong there!


    BTW, in B4 flamewar and lock! b:laughb:laugh
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Defeated - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    im just saying iv wasted a lot of money on this game already alone for 5.0 if it gets nurfed im more than likely done with pwi. I would rather you take shadow walk than take away 5.0 sins and bms. This act will only cause less aps and higher prices for aps. Please if anyone else has an opinion say something i would like to see what others think.

    is this a troll?

    if not:

    Go to hell, nobody needs people that spend cash for abusing a badly designed gamemechanic to be OP
    and then cry out loud when it comes to nerf it for balancing issues.

    how about nerfing sparks instead?
    Reduce like atk by 50%+Increase damage received by 50%? b:bye
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    They nerf things that people can use to get items without spending real money. IJS.
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • Mitachi - Dreamweaver
    Mitachi - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Like i said when everyone was celebrating that 5.0 was supposedly going to get nerfed. This is PWI. It will never happen.
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  • _Ghoul_ - Lost City
    _Ghoul_ - Lost City Posts: 973 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    b:pleased < this would have been my face if it did happen.
    well if 5aps isnt getting nurfed why not nerf spark all sparks b:laugh see all of the aps without sparking hehe.
  • Eccii - Raging Tide
    Eccii - Raging Tide Posts: 481 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Why is this thread still open?...
    Oh well, +1 postcount.
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  • PurBlanca - Raging Tide
    PurBlanca - Raging Tide Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    I just see a great diffrence between -number int and -x% chan...
    Like brothers, but with diffrent fathers, dont you think?
  • OIdpop - Heavens Tear
    OIdpop - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,052 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    i would say a spark cool down would be fair.

    and to the barb with the saying about fist out dding a barb with same gear with axe mastery and such...no there isnt nothing wrong..u jsut hit slower..now be axe with 3.33..now that will be a problem.
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  • Massad - Harshlands
    Massad - Harshlands Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Defeated - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    im just saying iv wasted a lot of money on this game already alone for 5.0 if it gets nurfed im more than likely done with pwi. I would rather you take shadow walk than take away 5.0 sins and bms. This act will only cause less aps and higher prices for aps. Please if anyone else has an opinion say something i would like to see what others think.

    how would it raise the price of aps gear??? IF (and thats a big if) aps were ever nerfed the gear would remain the same or go down because you don't need all the extra to try to get to 5 aps... Just the equipment to make it to the cap.

    And no its not getting nerfed... There was some chick on wc not to long ago that swore up and down that they did on the chinese server... Only thing was that she couldn't read chinese and the google translator as we all know often says things WRONG....

    If I am not mistaken (which I probably am I tend to be wrong about a lot of things) however there has been an aps cap on chinese server for a long while... and thats not something that has ever come here to our version
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    5.0 fist isn't completely broken. 5.0 Daggers are.

    I have +11 Deicides and I'm 5.0. Been that way for nearly two years now.

    My DD isn't useful. I'm just a dragon bi*ch for sins.

    Highly refined 5.0 BM is just support class again.

    /shrug
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    _blood_rain - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Keep in mind, that is coming from the person who claims to have soloed a +12 R9 archer with a +6 CV 9x's archer.

    Yes, this totally puts things into perspective.

    I also twoshot a 10x wiz, and pretty much 4 shot a 10x Psy in that TW from the same spot. What is your point?
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    is this a troll?

    if not:

    Go to hell, nobody needs people that spend cash for abusing a badly designed gamemechanic to be OP
    and then cry out loud when it comes to nerf it for balancing issues.

    how about nerfing sparks instead?
    Reduce like atk by 50%+Increase damage received by 50%? b:bye

    Yes, the increase damage by 50% is an awesome idea. In PVP, even **** geared Archers will suddenly be able to oneshot ANYONE who sparks. Please, do this. TW will consist of Barbs, some wiz, psy, and clerics, and the remaining 90% will be Archers.

    And again, your **** idea of a 'fix' will hurt everyone but Sins. Please, go die in a fire. We REALLY don't need this kind of BS killing off EVERY CLASS BUT SINS.
    101 Sage Sin*/Archer
    100 Demon BM*/Barb
    96 Demon Cleric/Sage Seeker
    95 Demon Wiz/
    94 Sage Veno
    85 Psy/80 Mystic
    And a handful of other alts, all 79 and under.
    *Pre RB level
  • _Perses_ - Lost City
    _Perses_ - Lost City Posts: 1,917 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    If aps gets nerfed I just go make a wizzy and play it. (CS it to hell and get 105 second cast r9 +12 with JosD)
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  • Dralighte - Harshlands
    Dralighte - Harshlands Posts: 1,540 Arc User
    edited January 2012
    Isn't the same rumor with EG expansion? b:bye
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  • CrusherJam - Dreamweaver
    CrusherJam - Dreamweaver Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited January 2012
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