do not get nirvana weapon.

endlesspsy
endlesspsy Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Assassin
Not worth it. But you still probably gonna get anyways. Oh well learn the hardway
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  • Sarrafeline - Sanctuary
    Sarrafeline - Sanctuary Posts: 4,661 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    b:sweat Is it just me, or are your posts all fail? b:shocked

    This post was just... SO informative. My life is absolutely complete now!
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  • _Nei_ - Sanctuary
    _Nei_ - Sanctuary Posts: 334 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    sarrafeline - Sanctuary wrote: »
    b:sweat Is It Just Me, Or Are Your Posts All Fail? B:shocked

    This Post Was Just... So Informative. My Life Is Absolutely Complete Now!

    +1 Hahhahahaha!
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  • Pyrostormz - Raging Tide
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide Posts: 956 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    maybe we are all so rich, we want to get them, just for the hell of it b:victory
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  • hanfknolle
    hanfknolle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hahaha laughing my *** off ! b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle


    To Get r9 u need 745 gold at our server it is 968,5mil +10 it will cost another 120mil +11 170 +12 250mil

    At top +12 r9 cost 1,5bil coins. + u need tome (300mil pangu / 450m Love up) so 1,8-2bil (ok it maybe has chance to deal 2x Dmg but ... )



    Nirvana cost when 2x is to make 200mil +12 cost 430mil / Total of 630mil (900mil-1bil when want pangu or Love up for base aps 4.) well of course you got som lower dmg but u could gem just +1 Atk Level Shards

    Nirvana is not a wrong choose just to say and bye b:byeb:bye
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  • ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver
    ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hanfknolle wrote: »
    hahaha laughing my *** off ! b:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle


    To Get r9 u need 745 gold at our server it is 968,5mil +10 it will cost another 120mil +11 170 +12 250mil

    At top +12 r9 cost 1,5bil coins. + u need tome (300mil pangu / 450m Love up) so 1,8-2bil (ok it maybe has chance to deal 2x Dmg but ... )



    Nirvana cost when 2x is to make 200mil +12 cost 430mil / Total of 630mil (900mil-1bil when want pangu or Love up for base aps 4.) well of course you got som lower dmg but u could gem just +1 Atk Level Shards

    Nirvana is not a wrong choose just to say and bye b:byeb:bye
    take a look on http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt319/raindeux/DpsReview.png

    Hmm apparently the conclusion you drew off of my spreadsheet was the wrong one. That is supposed to show why Nirvana isnt worth it. R8 daggers are free. G13 is 240 mil. Pan gu is 270mil to farm. Instead of get G13 buy a tome and use R8. Same dps almost. Then save up for rank 9, the ring is 264 mil and the daggers are 630 mil. So 894 mil for Catastrophe Stingers. Opposed to getting G15, 150 rapture crystals (2.2mil each x 150 = 330 mil), then 7 raptures a reforge, oh and by the way to get those adds on dark death thorn, 5% for GoF, 11% for -int, you have a 1 in 180 chance of getting those). So 7 raptures a reforge x 180 tries = 1,260 raptrues you will need on average to get those 2 adds, anything less than that gets out DD'd by Rank 9. 1,260 raptures x 2.2 mil each = 2.7 billion. + 330mil for the raptures you need just to get G15.

    So 3 billion coins in total to attempt to get the best adds on G15, no guarantee, but you might also get it cheaper. Or 1 billion coins almost for rank 9.

    Your choice... :3



    Edit: Oh and Rank 9 also comes with a sexy ring! ^_^
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  • hanfknolle
    hanfknolle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ive got my G13 when r9 wasnt even there... have to go the G15 way b:sad
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  • ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver
    ImNotFiveAps - Dreamweaver Posts: 458 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    hanfknolle wrote: »
    Ive got my G13 when r9 wasnt even there... have to go the G15 way b:sad

    It's still cheaper to get rank 9.

    1 bil for rank 9, or 2.7bil for DDT?

    Edit: 2.7 bil assuming you want it to out DD the Rank 9 dags. Only 350mil if you just want the dags with no specific adds. It'd be closer to 500-600 mil if you want S.S/GoF + -.05 int as 2 of the adds.

    Close to 900 mil for Rank 9 for you, and 600 mil for decent DDTs. See what i'm saying? :x
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  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Like 5aps said, the chances for the adds are so rare that it'll most likely end up with you paying more for them than just going rank 9.

    You might get extremely lucky on your first few casts that you'll get a decent dagger at the cost of 400m or so, or you can have horrible luck and still have crappy adds after 200 reforges, and waste 3 bil.


    Rank 9 is there with its solid adds.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Like 5aps said, the chances for the adds are so rare that it'll most likely end up with you paying more for them than just going rank 9.

    You might get extremely lucky on your first few casts that you'll get a decent dagger at the cost of 400m or so, or you can have horrible luck and still have crappy adds after 200 reforges, and waste 3 bil.


    Rank 9 is there with its solid adds.

    I haven't heard of a single cast out of all the sins I've seen with G15 that's cost more then r9 (esp the ones that had G13 when r9 came out). I dunno, even though I'm a sin and have all those chi skills I just don't like the aps nerf to 4.0 (mainly for TT). b:surrender
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  • Dinya - Sanctuary
    Dinya - Sanctuary Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Like 5aps said, the chances for the adds are so rare that it'll most likely end up with you paying more for them than just going rank 9.

    You might get extremely lucky on your first few casts that you'll get a decent dagger at the cost of 400m or so, or you can have horrible luck and still have crappy adds after 200 reforges, and waste 3 bil.


    Rank 9 is there with its solid adds.

    I got my stats on 1st cast! (ss/0.05/+19str) just cost me 1 reset note for restat the str into dex add ^^
  • KLisa - Dreamweaver
    KLisa - Dreamweaver Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I wonder why noone considered r8 recast?

    If one has interval tome, r8 recast price is more or less the same as g15-nirvana, but with higher base damage and higher chance for good unique addon. Oh, yes, and 2 sockets.

    If not Pan Gu/LUD Nirvana g13 are the way to go, so one could fram enough for tome-r9.

    I am 4aps D-sparcked, r8+7 daggers, 2 immac garnets and still I'm stealing aggro from g13+10 sins in Nirvana. Well on lucky crit chain b:chuckle.

    My point is: if one looks for only 5 aps, then g13 are fairly good. If one aspire for something more - they are just a step on the way, which might be skiped.
  • Massad - Harshlands
    Massad - Harshlands Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Pyrostormz - Raging Tide wrote: »
    maybe we are all so rich, we want to get them, just for the hell of it b:victory

    ^ This

    Already have all the mats together and raptures for nirv daggers (just so I can get into those nirvana 4 aps squads)

    Will get Ocean Supreme daggers and might +5 or +7 just because

    Already have all my chips and medals and such set out for my catastrophe along with the the orbs to +12

    Why would I do this... Because I can b:bye
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  • Dinya - Sanctuary
    Dinya - Sanctuary Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    R8 recast it's kinda impossible to get interval since it's 0.13%to obtain it and it's harder to get gof... Just11%
    And on g15 it's 5%for interval and 48.5% tofal for gof(2.5%)/ss(46%)
    Most luck to get the good adds
  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Dinya - Sanctuary wrote: »
    R8 recast it's kinda impossible to get interval since it's 0.13%to obtain it and it's harder to get gof... Just11%
    And on g15 it's 5%for interval and 48.5% tofal for gof(2.5%)/ss(46%)
    Most luck to get the good adds

    Odds do not matter, it's the coin fee that makes r8 reforged unrealistic. And it's 2.5% + 46.5% = 49%.
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  • Belgarath - Heavens Tear
    Belgarath - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Odds do not matter, it's the coin fee that makes r8 reforged unrealistic. And it's 2.5% + 46.5% = 49%.

    No. Probabilities do not add up like that. Basic high school math.
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Belgarath - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No. Probabilities do not add up like that. Basic high school math.

    ...actually they do. Basic highschool math. You will get a zerk add-on 49% of the time because you have a 46.5% chance for Sacrificial Strike and a 2.5% chance for GoF. Making the two of them together a 49:100 odds, and a 51:100 odds that it will be 3% or 4% crit.

    Combine that with the 5% pick two chance of getting interval (5% each time, 2 opportunities) and thats a 1/10 chance of getting at least 1 -int.

    That means almost half the time you'll get a zerk, and 1/10 times you'll get a -int, making the odds of getting both 1:20 (well, 490:1000 actually).



    All that said, I think the OP was talking about G13 Nirvanas performing worse than Rank 8 and for 90 times the price.
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  • RunningTiger - Dreamweaver
    RunningTiger - Dreamweaver Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Nobody seems to realize that rank 8 recast is better than anything except rank 9. The aps sin is the only class that rank 8 recast is not really all that good for.

    At the moment not enough people are doing the trials an the matts for weapon are over priced as a result and not easily buyable.
  • Dinya - Sanctuary
    Dinya - Sanctuary Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    R8 recast are more for NON aps class. They're really great
    On our server a barb have r8 recast weapon pole hammer with around
    +25/30 def level stat... That's amazing lol
  • _Skai_ - Raging Tide
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide Posts: 3,407 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    @Dinya The chances of one -int and SS is very high, or it's very common to get those stats.

    2x -int and SS or GoF and -int have a lot lower chances.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ...actually they do. Basic highschool math. You will get a zerk add-on 49% of the time because you have a 46.5% chance for Sacrificial Strike and a 2.5% chance for GoF. Making the two of them together a 49:100 odds, and a 51:100 odds that it will be 3% or 4% crit.

    Combine that with the 5% pick two chance of getting interval (5% each time, 2 opportunities) and thats a 1/10 chance of getting at least 1 -int.

    That means almost half the time you'll get a zerk, and 1/10 times you'll get a -int, making the odds of getting both 1:20 (well, 490:1000 actually).



    All that said, I think the OP was talking about G13 Nirvanas performing worse than Rank 8 and for 90 times the price.

    dammit saku, you stole my thunder b:sad
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  • Dinya - Sanctuary
    Dinya - Sanctuary Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    _Skai_ - Raging Tide wrote: »
    @Dinya The chances of one -int and SS is very high, or it's very common to get those stats.

    2x -int and SS or GoF and -int have a lot lower chances.

    Most of my friends got ss/int around 25/55 tries... That's a lot for high chance to get...
    Almost minimum 200raps after reforge it's to much x.x
  • Sakubatou - Sanctuary
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary Posts: 4,001 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Traz - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    dammit saku, you stole my thunder b:sad

    ninja'd -.-




    Was just backing you up that your math was correct and the person "correcting" you was mistaken.
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  • Traz - Dreamweaver
    Traz - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Sakubatou - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ninja'd -.-




    Was just backing you up that your math was correct and the person "correcting" you was mistaken.

    I know, sometimes the forums can be fun just reading certain people's responses b:laugh
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  • Dinya - Sanctuary
    Dinya - Sanctuary Posts: 395 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Lol traz don't take fun from me! Snif!

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