Commonly used Nirvy wep for Venos?

LadyHalo - Raging Tide
LadyHalo - Raging Tide Posts: 61 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Venomancer
Just wondering if there's a certain nirvy wep that venos use over the others.

Or what nirvy wep do you use and why?


Thank you!!
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    LadyHalo - Raging Tide wrote: »
    Just wondering if there's a certain nirvy wep that venos use over the others.

    Or what nirvy wep do you use and why?


    Thank you!!

    anything but pataka...:<

    wand/glaive if you go for channeling
    magic sword if you go for crit
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • Nine_Lives - Raging Tide
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    anything but pataka...:<

    wand/glaive if you go for channeling
    magic sword if you go for crit

    +1

    why a pataka is assigned as our rank wep still my head spinb:faint
  • Itori - Lost City
    Itori - Lost City Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    misunderstood xD;

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    I'd go wand or glaive if sharing with other chars

    mostly for the chan,

    but crit is <3

    back when I wanted a nv weap I was going to use magic sword for more balanced m.atck and p.atck
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  • Cocobelle - Sanctuary
    Cocobelle - Sanctuary Posts: 960 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Glaive. I think it looks the prettiest. b:chuckle
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  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    You get the most bang for your buck as a caster from r8, if you wa,nt more chan go for glaive, wand doesn't seem like a viable choice, your pet heals will be more equal, but any g14 or 15 weapon will be able to heal a pet just fine. If you are LA or HA and like to dd in foxform the sword is the best choice. The sword can't get -6 or -10 chan as a unique add-on but has the best p.attack, and if you are rolling for the +20 attack level, you can't get the big chan bonus anyway.

    I went for the sword, and got +20 attack in about 20 rerolls.
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  • LadyHalo - Raging Tide
    LadyHalo - Raging Tide Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Thx all. XD
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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    anything but pataka...:<
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide wrote: »
    +1

    why a pataka is assigned as our rank wep still my head spinb:faint

    What's wrong with pataka?
    r8 veno wep is not cool just because of bonuses, but they also could place them on sword or whatever. It's not pataka's "fault".
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  • Asgardeus - Sanctuary
    Asgardeus - Sanctuary Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Marengo - Lost City wrote: »
    What's wrong with pataka?
    r8 veno wep is not cool just because of bonuses, but they also could place them on sword or whatever. It's not pataka's "fault".

    Pataka got a funny big attack range. Either you hit the high hit or the weakish slap. ^.~
    And they got the lowest aps of all magic weapons lol
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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Asgardeus - Sanctuary wrote: »

    Pataka got a funny big attack range. Either you hit the high hit or the weakish slap. ^.~
    And they got the lowest aps of all magic weapons lol
    ty for telling me xDD always considered it as advantage btw
    aps? for veno mage? Oo
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  • Nine_Lives - Raging Tide
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    um not all venos are caster blaster herc wielders...some actually use their other fox skills beside amp, purge, myriad rainbow and soul deg. we do have a melee skill tree though so why not use it as well than let it rot?

    AND YES THERE ARE APS VENOS...THEY WILL NOT USUALLY USE A PATAKA FOR THAT
  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide wrote: »
    um not all venos are caster blaster herc wielders...some actually use their other fox skills beside amp, purge, myriad rainbow and soul deg. we do have a melee skill tree though so why not use it as well than let it rot?
    Maybe because it is useless and dmg is poor.
    Amp, purge, sd, myriad rainbow are debuff skill and they are used by casters.
    AND YES THERE ARE APS VENOS...THEY WILL NOT USUALLY USE A PATAKA FOR THAT
    Saw one, didn't impress me.

    APS set for veno is useless because 2,22 is crappy aspd, its not aspd at all if you ask me, its a waste of everything - money, def, matck etc. Any melee class (though casters too) will overdamage such veno in 1 hit in pve and will kite and kill her easily in pvp.
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  • Itori - Lost City
    Itori - Lost City Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Marengo - Lost City wrote: »
    APS set for veno is useless because 2,22 is crappy aspd, its not aspd at all if you ask me, its a waste of everything - money, def, matck etc. Any melee class (though casters too) will overdamage such veno in 1 hit in pve and will kite and kill her easily in pvp.

    I agree...

    I dont really see the point in OMG APS VENO anymore either since Caster NV is such nice money compared to regular. Plus in casters, arcane builds are best due to higher mag attack, better magic defense. Venos dont get BP... or healed from triple spark.. so how can you farm with a veno in TT without a herc? (not that I really do this anymore, bms and sins do it way faster)

    and in pvp... if you dont plan on killing anything, mostly working on defenses I guess HA could work? Maybe. But I dont see anyone using "Tail Whip" in pvp for good reason. Fox physical damage skills are somewhat unreliable, I guess due to my low accuracy but even before when I had a lot more accuracy you're still likely to miss on classes with a high dex investment. Our curses how ever, are caster friendly and dont miss, our staple skills in pvp Amplify and Purge. (crush vigor is nice for chi reliant classes :P) But part of the reason no one really pvps purely in fox... range rules. Fox oriented builds tend to have pretty low mdef, and unlike BMs they dont have marrow, they dont have stuns(one freeze thats last 8 seconds and has a 15 second cooldown that costs 1 spark is not what I call practical -.-), such a veno would be pretty easy to kill. But wait...who here pvps anyways right? >.> XP

    Once upon a time I wanted to be good with HA, but then it just doesnt really make sense anymore with the way the game is. The way I want to play now. Which is more focused on PVP which pataka is quite nice for (spike damage). Dont diss something until you've use it. In fact, unlike other r8s, venos get +313 pdef on the weap AND +240 on the pants.. thats 553 pdef just for using rank. Not bad for an oh-so-squishy arcane :P
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  • Nine_Lives - Raging Tide
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Marengo - Lost City wrote: »
    Maybe because it is useless and dmg is poor.
    Amp, purge, sd, myriad rainbow are debuff skill and they are used by casters.

    Saw one, didn't impress me.

    APS set for veno is useless because 2,22 is crappy aspd, its not aspd at all if you ask me, its a waste of everything - money, def, matck etc. Any melee class (though casters too) will overdamage such veno in 1 hit in pve and will kite and kill her easily in pvp.

    it's not how to impress you that we discuss here but the disadvantages of the pataka over the other weps.

    besides the usual rank gear that venos use, do you honestly see other casters using patakas endgame? Not much.I still have to see someone walking around in arch wielding a nirv pataka. Even if the TT 99 gold pataka is the easiest to make wep to be turned into a nirv wep most of the time it will either be turned into a glaive or magsword because of better stats.With consistency the battlecry of everyone nowadays, the pataka just won't easily cut it.

    Among the caster rank sets, guess who's set is considered the stinkiest? It's ours. Why?
    One of it is our weapon which coupled with our even more horrible nuke skills makes it the laughing stock of the mag class atm. Even mysts now outclass us cause their set is more attuned to their skill trees than ours atm. Our spike damage is just regular skills damage of outher classes, why spoil it more with a pataka.

    To the OP of this post, the best choices for nirv weps by far for us are still the mag sword and the glaive. b:victory
  • Arshies - Sanctuary
    Arshies - Sanctuary Posts: 666 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    APS venos can hit 5aps with a proper build. 4aps base and reach 5aps from genie skill.
    Melee tree is good for a LA-HA with a good build, shards, refines they can have a real nice physical attack.

    As for the caster vana the huge diference is you need Talismans to go there so,....... let's see you can do 3 runs per day, I assume you get the daily reward one plus the other 2 from BHI-II, while you can do all the normal vana runs you want during the whole day.........

    And as for the original therad question I have the vana glaive for channeling and magical attack.
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  • Marengo - Lost City
    Marengo - Lost City Posts: 771 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Nine_Lives - Raging Tide wrote: »
    it's not how to impress you...
    It was a joke ;)
    ...that we discuss here but the disadvantages of the pataka over the other weps.
    Thats it. It was said here that one of pataka's disadvantages is aps, i just explained why this "disadvantage" isn't a big deal.
    besides the usual rank gear that venos use, do you honestly see other casters using patakas endgame?
    I see, but rarely, they mostly prefer to rely on stable glaive's damage (more important in pve, imo). But tastes differ.
    Our spike damage is just regular skills damage of outher classes, why spoil it more with a pataka.
    On the other hand our spike damage somehow compensates other classes' normal damage.
    To the OP of this post, the best choices for nirv weps by far for us are still the mag sword and the glaive.
    I don't really argue, ages ago when i was going for nv i chose sword for crits. If there was a chance to get same % of crit on staff, i'd go for it.
    Arshies - Sanctuary wrote: »
    APS venos can hit 5aps with a proper build. 4aps base and reach 5aps from genie skill.
    Don't forget melee mastery doesn't work in human form. So you win nothing.
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