Blood Paint

BH79 and bh89 only require a mystic without bp. FCC, a mystic is needed mostly, no need for cleric. I haven't tried other instances, i'll need to improve my bm where a mystic will be sufficient.

To answer your question, it depends. Boss has 5m hp, 1~5 sins, 1~5 bms. All +12 gear and weapon, wouldn't require a cleric. Take the same squad but 0 refines, they will get squad wipe with aoe. People just have to adapt to their playing style and whom they run with. I wait for my mystic friend to lay down herbs first for some bosses, but for others herbs only come after.

BH 99 is often run without a sin in the squad, never hurt. Delta requires a sin if doing full delta, stage 2~3, not really (depending on gear). Warsong i have completed without sins and 1 cleric, still depends on how well people play and gear.

oh and lets not forget there is FAR LESS QQ from barbs and clerics now.
even without BP now adays bosses die so fast, that clerics dont have to freakout

snufalufaguss wrote: »

What would squads be like in high level instances if there were no blood paint?

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

2 clerics per squad would be mandatory because Sins and BMs who will be tanking won't be able to tank as well as a barb.
omg....what?
Before sins came out barbs and clerics were in every squad.
yup, just like now,at beginning of every instance, for buffs
Now there's no barbs because 5APS bm's can just steal aggro.
*because no one needs them beside Buffs. Fixed that for you.

you two are dumb as doorknob and you my man

jabq wrote: »

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you're the champion of them all.


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Search on youtube (and here on forum) for chezedude vids (soloing harpy wraith, TT3-3, and so on).
Then come back an realize something everyone knows alread: BP does not make any difference in solo-in something. Sure, without BP ppl would have to rely more on pots/charms/crab meat/genie skills to survive.

Even for instances that would need a cleric only one would be needed, just like before cleric heals tank, then rest if they need and buffs ect. a sin can solo frost(except for maybe 1st boss after heads) and a lot more with no bp , bishop boss is a good example if you cant kill him in a spark or two. In fast Niv squads bosses dont last long enough for bp to make or break the tank. Depending on squad they go down in 1 to 3 sparks. Also there are pots and such long before sins b:pleased. Doing things as a squad is teamwork, learn it. its a great tool. A sin is OP for sure, but they do exactly as they were designed to do and its a really fun class to play, dont hate them, incorporate them into you squads.

About 79 and 89, i farm 89(brim) quite a lot during 2x. I am 4aps r8 6k hp, i one spark the horse and fats, and 2 spark etheral, and can do it with no bp(several times realised i didnt have bp in there before). In 79 they are all 1 spark bosses. Ii usualy do 79 for my guildies for bh's/fb's so the last 2 might take 2, depends on bm or not just dont remember off hand.

You have to realize a sin that can average 25k per hit sparked on regular bosses can do 1.5m dmg, most of the time bp doesnt even come in to play except on certain times, just crabs can keep us healed (REALLY DEPENDS ON THE HIT RATE OF BOSS) b:laugh

but anyway, dont hate a class because what it can or cant do, my first char a cleric, i solo'd everything except for fb's and some hi hp bosses while leveling her. barbs and bm's have their amazing def and hp, archer's their long distance, veno's their pets and now the newer classes.

A lot of people complain about a high aps non-sin's dmg vers a sin. One way i understand, but in the end you have to look at the class. Take the BM, they can use a variety of weapons so they will have a "general" ability to those weapons. Take the sin, there is only one weapon its made for the daggers, so ofcourse they will do better with them as that is all they need to learn. Good example, you take two people one learns a sword, another learns 4 different weapons. Come back in 5 years who do you think will be better on the sword, the swordmaster or the one that learned 4 different weapons.

One thing i find odd, all the complaining about sins in the forums, in the lastyear and a half give or take i have yet to see one compain in world chat about it. maybe i just missed all the complaining or maybe it is not as a big of a deal as everyone on the forums wants to make it to be

have fun

jabq wrote: »

Delta requires a sin if doing full delta

lolwut?

You're really dense.

_Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It would be fun if blood paint was removed from the game for a week.
The older/more experienced players i dont think it would affect them.
The power lvled/new/un experienced players i think would get their panties in a twist.

Hahaha so true! b:laugh

_Mg_Zr - Heavens Tear wrote: »

It would be fun if blood paint was removed from the game for a week.
The older/more experienced players i dont think it would affect them.
The power lvled/new/un experienced players i think would get their panties in a twist.

lmao

i think that would be fun tho...judging from the responses on this thread o.o

Sins arent needed in deltas o.o well...to BP a seeker maybe but otherwise, wizzies ftw ^_^

I get stuck doing the damn running quest -.- pain in the ***.

But yea, BP gets the job done faster and easier, instead of moaning about BP we should get harder bosses in the game b:chuckle

lordramrod wrote: »

Sins arent needed in deltas o.o well...to BP a seeker maybe but otherwise, wizzies ftw ^_^

I get stuck doing the damn running quest -.- pain in the ***.

But yea, BP gets the job done faster and easier, instead of moaning about BP we should get harder bosses in the game b:chuckle

Who does normal delta anymore, spawn point or nothing. 1/3 of the time and no great differnence in difficulty, especially with seekers now.

snufalufaguss wrote: »

What would squads be like in high level instances if there were no blood paint?

there wouldn't be sins as they'd get agro instantly and die.

seekers would be useless (more so then now)

Squads would be BM, Barb, Mystic, Cleric, Wiz/Archer. lol

jabq wrote: »

BH 99 is often run without a sin in the squad, never hurt. Delta requires a sin if doing full delta, stage 2~3, not really (depending on gear). Warsong i have completed without sins and 1 cleric, still depends on how well people play and gear.

wow i totally missed this one o.o............. btw did u know that delta was already there around... 2009 early 2010? the time where there were no genies and the skill bars were even smaller b:chuckle