fox form venomancer help

ha/aa DOESN'T really work in lower levels because you'll need lots of expensive +stats or wear stuff way below your level and if you dont refine your hp will stay low which makes it hard for you to do quests/bosses

also ha/aa was pretty much outdated when i quit long time ago and foxform skills had been useless **** since i started playing...

and if it was pretty difficult for normal veno to get a squad for something especially if you wern't ment to tank it with herc what do you think your chances are?(better have some good friends them)

i am sorry for being so negative about this but thats just how it is.

Shrunchkins around Kings Feast are good at that level. For the turtle, the sharks south of Misfortune; if they're too tough, level it up on the planeshark dons east of Mount Lantern. For the foxwing, the vipions over Hidden Heroes.

Your stats as an HA/AA veno are going to very much depend on what +stat ornaments, cape and helm you can come up with. What you should shoot for, at 54:

Mag 162 (to equip Military Sword)
Str 137, Dex 31 (to equip Bracers of Aries)

You can reduce these requirements somewhat if you find -req weapons and armor.

I would advise you to slow down your leveling (feed excess XP to your genie(s)) and grind up a good stash of coin; HA/AA is expensive to do well because of the equipment requirements (my current main is a 94 veno that's been HA/AA since level 1.)

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moko1chan wrote: »

I also use iron scarab but that is the only human form skill im currently useing. I do plan to get more later on but atm i want to go fox.

I decided against getting pierce since i was told my human form iron scarab lasts longer, gives a bigger -armor, and has a shorter CD. If this is true or not i didnt bother to check out.

Ironwood scarab lasts 10 seconds with an 8 second cooldown (unless sage, which lasts 20 seconds.) Not really practical to spam if you want to spend most of your time in fox. Pierce lasts 15 seconds with a 30 second cooldown. Which will give a better debuff depends on the levels of pierce and ironwood. Level 10 ironwood gives a 30% reduction, sage gives a 40% reduction, demon has gives either none or 100%. Level 5 pierce gives 36%, level 3 (the most a level 40-59 pet can be given) 28%, but doesn't require a switch out of foxform.

i have a few suggestions- there is at least one 'human' skill you really should get, and level up. Noxious Gas is one of the two AOE skills we have, and it is awesome, hitting more than one mob.and it resets fast too, making it one of the best moves a veno has. Parasitic Nova is much the same, but takes two sparks, making it something you kind of have to save up for and use wisely. but really, the pair of moves no veno should be without are the two that fully refil your health and mana. and tanks and clerics very much appreciate the skill that passes a spark at a critically needed time, Lending Hand.

my suggestion is to get the skills, and level the ones most important first, and the others as you find them useful or not. im lv83, and find that i use nearly all my skills more and more often, as i level up and go into tougher and tougher instances. i too like to play in foxform as much as i can, and when i can, will go HA myself, for survivablity in the higher levels....getting killed is no fun.b:chuckle

moko1chan wrote: »

Ok I'm a level 52 fox form veno (soon to be 54) and I'm going HA/AA. I have no idea were to grind since I've screwed up my stats a bit and since I'm full time fox form I only have fox skills aside from active blessings like bramble, ect. I'm useing decent armor but would still prefer not to take hits if possible. I want to know grinding spotsand what my stats should be atm. Here is my info.

Pets:
Sharptooth wolfling level 50: level 3 flesh ream, level 2 tough. Do not try to talk me out of useuig this pet because this is my main even if it may suck later.

Pioneer foxwing level 40: original skills

The level 5 turtle (to many turtles to remember its name) level 30: original skills.

Stats:

Vit: 30 (if anyone has an intermediate reset note for cheep please tell me, I'm on server RT only have 1m atm but am willing to pay another 4m over time)

STR: around 90

DEX: around 30

Mag: around 100

Any help would be nice. Post. If you want more info.

just fyi i play on my 94 veno as my other main.....

Anyway, for starters somewhere in the veno forum is a specific guide for HA. It is very thorough and a must read if you're going HA.

Having said that, to ONLY be fox form is a total waste, similarly to ONLY staying in human form. They are not mutually exclusive and as an almost pure mag veno, I drop into fox form continuously to use various skills.

My recollection and belief is that the reason to go HA is to be a tank in squads. It is not intended to be a solo char like pure mag.

Get yourself a Glacial Walker and Petite Sawfly and level them. The GW is the next best thing to a herc and the PS is the next best flying pet to a Nix. Use them in human form to grind. This is the solo play of a veno, not fox form. As you get more money and skills you can begin to aoe grind using a pet and skills in both human and fox form.

Be ready with the GW and PS soon, because with snowmen coming, levelling your land/fly pets is easy.

I've been playing this veno HA fox form since level 1, started it as an experiment and it turned out good enough for me. Anyways, I'll share my stats and stuff.

Build is here.
My basic stat distribution is 6 mag 3 str 1 dex per 2 levels. Basically I can use the current level weapon and arcane armor and have to find heavy armor with -req and +str. It has worked out pretty well so far, on next level I get to update my chest and pants to the lvl 60 set. Physical defense is pretty high, but with so low HP magic mobs can be a bit dangerous...

Speaking of magic and running mobs, somebody mentioned Stunning Blow already. It can't be spammed, true, but usually after you have hit the mob with it once it won't start running once the freeze ends. Could be just my luck, though. I've mostly leveled my fox form skills so far, but Venomous and Ironwood I've leveled a bit in case of archer mobs and other special situations.

My pet is the Dark Wanderer with Pierce, Roar and Tough, all lvl 2 atm. I like using Pierce over Ironwood just for the convenience. No need to switch from fox form to debuff and then back to DD. (The pet also deals good damage, almost 1k per hit :S) I'd suggest you get Pierce if you have the money. Though fixing that vitality is more important right now :S

Others have supplied you with grinding locations, so I won't comment on that. You said you don't like to take hits if possible when grinding... Then you better have your pet tank the mobs for you, I guess. That sort of defeats the point of being HA, at least in my opinion. Get some Life Powder and Leech the mobs if HP starts falling. You can also use Befuddling mist to lower the mobs accuracy, that helps a bit. It's also an AOE in case you haven't noticed yet. Repair costs might be high, but that can't be helped.

That's enough for now, I think. Good luck with your veno, the path you've chosen is not the easiest one, but it definitely is fun and interesting! ^^

Just a little bumb in : Don't forget about ring engraving to get your stats up.

You should try to roll +str, +dex or +mag with ring engraving to have enough str and dex for HA, and enough mag for your weapon (which always covers AA). I'd suggest not to change rings to often, but try to get a good one, engrave it then go with it for a while.

That's one viable approach (keep an eye out for +mag ornaments/armor and -req weapons then) and might be cheaper than the way I went (-req armor and up to date weapon and lots of +str/dex equips.)