Understand duels/PVP battles between seekers?

FemaleAssain - Sanctuary
FemaleAssain - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
edited December 2011 in Seeker
Hey everyone, I rarely post here, only to ask question and clear some things up :)

See first I would like to start off with the lvl 59 skills of a seeker.. especailly the Quid Pro Quo. How does it work..? For realz, a friend of mines was discussing it with me and I didn't seem to understand it at all. I requested a video on youtube but I don't think I posted it since i lost connection of the internet. D:

The Quid Pro Quo is 'supposedly' transfer debuffs on target. I saw an example of that skill being used on venos, but still. Using the QPQ, isn't a disadvantage between a sin, and a psy? Whether it is in duels or PVP, because psy has a soulburn which can do a vice versa on the dmg. And sin just kinda do whatever because all they own is physical skills, dont they? I dont think Im making this clear as it, because i offically forgot how to explain to it.


I'll try to edit this post later.
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  • Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary
    Hazumi_chan - Sanctuary Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Hey everyone, I rarely post here, only to ask question and clear some things up :)

    See first I would like to start off with the lvl 59 skills of a seeker.. especailly the Quid Pro Quo. How does it work..? For realz, a friend of mines was discussing it with me and I didn't seem to understand it at all. I requested a video on youtube but I don't think I posted it since i lost connection of the internet. D:

    The Quid Pro Quo is 'supposedly' transfer debuffs on target. I saw an example of that skill being used on venos, but still. Using the QPQ, isn't a disadvantage between a sin, and a psy? Whether it is in duels or PVP, because psy has a soulburn which can do a vice versa on the dmg. And sin just kinda do whatever because all they own is physical skills, dont they? I dont think Im making this clear as it, because i offically forgot how to explain to it.


    I'll try to edit this post later.

    I don't understand the last part... but yes, Quid Pro transfers debuffs that are on you at that moment to your target. If a veno uses amp per example, one can put it right back on the veno by using quid pro. Also it silences the target for some seconds, making it unable to attack. :)
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  • Neodaystar - Sanctuary
    Neodaystar - Sanctuary Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    QPQ is not a precaution passive buff like buffs that sins and psychics have. It is an active counter skill that will transfer any type of debuff that the seeker has on onto the designated target. This includes skills such as seal, DoT damages, amplified damage from hf/veno's amp/curse debuff from pots like Crimson powder, and status debuff like lowered defense/lowered attack speed/lowered attack and defense lvls/hp debuff/immobilization/slow.

    The only thing that a seeker can't transfer is stun, sleep, and the bubble effect from the genie skill occult ice. The reason is that these types of status debuff interrupts and cancels QPQ.

    So, if you are chain stunned to death by a sin, there isn't much you can do to transfer that type of debuff back. As for a psychic's skill Soul of Stunning, you cannot counter that skill with QPQ. Psychic's skill Soul of Silence is an interesting one. It makes the person with this buff cause a Silence effect, for 3 seconds, to the attacker upon being hit. QPQ is not a damaging skill, so it might not activate the effect of Soul of Silence, or transfer the seal back.

    On a special note. the seal debuff doesn't interrupt or cancel a person's ability to channel or cast a spell. It just prevents the player from preforming a new command. Seal can be successfully transferred only if QPQ is being channel as seal is being placed on you at the same time. This can be self executed by channeling QPQ and using the genie skill expel immediately during the channeling of QPQ to seal the target and obtain physical immunity.
  • Ceiba - Sanctuary
    Ceiba - Sanctuary Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    Seal can be successfully transferred only if QPQ is being channel as seal is being placed on you at the same time. This can be self executed by channeling QPQ and using the genie skill expel immediately during the channeling of QPQ to seal the target and obtain physical immunity.

    So this is unaffecetd by neutral buff filter? No matter how I look into it, it sounds scary and broken. b:shocked
  • Sympathi - Archosaur
    Sympathi - Archosaur Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited November 2011
    So this is unaffected by neutral buff filter? No matter how I look into it, it sounds scary and broken. b:shocked

    No there's no stopping it unless your ADed or Ironguarded, it will also transfer debuffs that you would otherwise resist, for example you use an anti stun skill, paralyze a seeker, they Quad Pro you it will still paralyze you even if your still under the immune to stuns effect.

    This actually works in PvE too, such as transferring HP debuffs to non debuffable bosses such as Harpy Wraith or even transferring Heavens Flame curse to non HFable nirvana bosses like the second boss here;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-JzCLmCC4

    Just need to know how to abuse it to its fullest! b:chuckle
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  • laloner
    laloner Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    QPQ is one of my fave seeker skills. Other than the long cool down my only complaint about it is that it shouldn't take mana to use. Because when you get hit with a mana burn debuff you can often have your mana so low you can't move the mana burn buff onto the mob. This defeats the purpose of the skill.
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  • Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver
    Ebrithalia - Dreamweaver Posts: 441 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    laloner wrote: »
    QPQ is one of my fave seeker skills. Other than the long cool down my only complaint about it is that it shouldn't take mana to use. Because when you get hit with a mana burn debuff you can often have your mana so low you can't move the mana burn buff onto the mob. This defeats the purpose of the skill.

    pop an herb (if you have any) it give you enough mana to pop QPQ to clean the mana burn

    P.S tried and it worked
    Ebrithalia -Sage Seeker