TW Schedule 11/18 - 11/20
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Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Well Susa is full JoSD barb... I know on Your server is an extremely unpopular build and ppl are like wtf why would You jade any character saying DoT is the way to go... Not willing to discuss who is right, as Im saying we have different experiences... For sure he can tank pretty well, but having no buffs, no dd support and few ppl hitting him at once makes it difficult...
There are 2 guys on LC that came from ur server I think - chezedude and fizban... They rolled a very unpopular character on HT (psychic) and made them full jades... You can also look at some of their videos and see how much jade builds can tank... Im guessing they could compare the HT experience to LC experience and get the correct conclusions.
@Ehmi
Chill out yo... No point to get so nervous over a game.. We are just discussing, having different point of views, we see things from different angles... Im just commenting few things I see... Will stay say that ep should roll a dd class or they have an ep to be the support class if he wants to be a dd guy xD
It comes down to how well he can pop his magic charms and his other apoth and how well he chains survival skills together. Buffs or not if hes a JoSD barb and hes getting rolled that fast hes doing something wrong....
His use of arma and playing offensivly as a cata puller is a problem too. Since most pullers in general are sage im going to assume that he is and has sage arma also. This is a problem in tw all together as sage arma doesn't tick your charm and in endgame tw with as much r9 as our server has thats a problem and a magic crit or hitting multiple targets with bramble will easily mess up your day. on top of this he wasting his 2 sparks instead of using turtle. I also notice a lack of magic charms and solid shield going off. All those JoSD can be useful (Though not a personal preference to me), but if he isn't playing properly (Which he clearly isnt) and using the proper items its like peeing in the wind. If he wants to DD in a tw he should re-roll his class because in tw barb wether your in a a dd squad or a cata squad you wont be dealing much damage. In a DD squad even if your a dd barb your secondary role is to dd your first role is to be a shield so your dd don't get wtfpwned, and in a cata squad your job is to tank and stay alive...not drop armasouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
ouka__ - 103 vit barb- "Nom Nom I'm A Panda!"
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Ouka - Heavens Tear wrote: »It comes down to how well he can pop his magic charms and his other apoth and how well he chains survival skills together. Buffs or not if hes a JoSD barb and hes getting rolled that fast hes doing something wrong....
His use of arma and playing offensivly as a cata puller is a problem too. Since most pullers in general are sage im going to assume that he is and has sage arma also. This is a problem in tw all together as sage arma doesn't tick your charm and in endgame tw with as much r9 as our server has thats a problem and a magic crit or hitting multiple targets with bramble will easily mess up your day. on top of this he wasting his 2 sparks instead of using turtle. I also notice a lack of magic charms and solid shield going off. All those JoSD can be useful (Though not a personal preference to me), but if he isn't playing properly (Which he clearly isnt) and using the proper items its like peeing in the wind. If he wants to DD in a tw he should re-roll his class because in tw barb wether your in a a dd squad or a cata squad you wont be dealing much damage. In a DD squad even if your a dd barb your secondary role is to dd your first role is to be a shield so your dd don't get wtfpwned, and in a cata squad your job is to tank and stay alive...not drop armas
Im guessing he used pots, charms, genies to actually get inside of the base since he is far ahead of the rest of the catas that come many seconds behind him... Hard to judge we dont see the whole sequence of what he was doing 30 seconds before this video shot...
Well You are assuming correct and obviously sage barbs are better pullers... Unfortunatelly Susa is demon, that in my eyes shouldnt change the fact that in tiger his survability is quite better than in human form and droping armageddon is auto charm tick, but like I said Susa isnt any good puller on LC server, he is just tanky cuz of gears... Totally agree with rest of the comments...Because size really MATTERS!!!0 -
Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »well been talking to few of ur guildmates including scrubby and linkinpark, also looked at some ppl at west gate... Ofc sharding is expensive, but at least those ppl with +12 and good armor refine (+10-12) got the chance to select the way they are going to shard... From those many of those that I have seen are DoT, some citrines/vit stones... TBH havent seen many Jades builds yet, but it might be wrong... On side note I ve seen You are full DoT if im not wrong? :> Been told by scrubby barbs go vit stones and that he can still hit for 40k+ a full jades barb, which I will leave without comment again, since im a moron, know nothing abt the game and im nobody on HT.... HAHAHAHAHA well Ehmi chill, You know how to talk without insulting or ur brain cells cant force that much to even think and keep the discuss classy?
Regards
I am full DoT yes. And you picked out the handful of names that sharded DoT. Your sample size is way too small to make presumptions about the server. BESIDES, you're checking Enrage DDs. GD actually has quite a number of people, many of them much better geared than Enrage, so why you didnt' factor their builds into your presumptions is beyond me. Although their DoTs are in weird places, like BMs wtf.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I've skimmed through all the posts, but so many have been made that I can't choose which to quote.
To Wadzio:
Note 1: You mentioned that the barb in my squad was good and kept everyone buffed. Let me tell you now that it was one of my wizards (scrubby, in fact) logged on the barb on another computer. He just left it there at the spawnpoint so he can move his hand across the table each time to buff the party when they die. If that's what makes a good barb in YOUR server, yeah, something's wrong with their and your tw standards. Or maybe just what you're watching when it comes to the vids. Given that, I don't think I need to mention more to you about your judgment of what is preferable in tw. I'll let the readers here decide the rest.
To Ehmi:
Lol, my god, this guy^ must have posted a lot more than I've seen if you know him to be a troll from lc. At least you took the time to go through the vid so critically to point all the stuff out. To make a long story short, my patience doesn't last.
To ouka:
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Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »I am full DoT yes. And you picked out the handful of names that sharded DoT. Your sample size is way too small to make presumptions about the server. BESIDES, you're checking Enrage DDs. GD actually has quite a number of people, many of them much better geared than Enrage, so why you didnt' factor their builds into your presumptions is beyond me. Although their DoTs are in weird places, like BMs wtf.
because he know Enrage > his faction and hes scared b:shockedb:shockedExegesis-103-Psychic--blackballs, blueballs, pinkballs, hairless balls. You got a lotta balls to be applying to Enrage...AND ask for a private denial reason? gg man. gg.0 -
I'm sharded with immac sapphires in TT99 and I can manage against 4 or 5 people .... for about 0.1 seconds b:chuckle
I do wonder why classes that take alot of damage, such as BMs and barbs, choose to shard dots and/or vit stones over josd's though. If you're gunna get the best gear possible, surely you would get the best shards possible asap and not waste 400m on vit stones or whatever.
I can only go off what I assume, I don't really know people who are in that situation to talk to, but a 45k hp barb with 100 defence levels would last longer than a 57k hp barb or whatever todays maximum HP is with 50 defence levels.
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X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear wrote: »I'm sharded with immac sapphires in TT99 and I can manage against 4 or 5 people .... for about 0.1 seconds b:chuckle
I do wonder why classes that take alot of damage, such as BMs and barbs, choose to shard dots and/or vit stones over josd's though. If you're gunna get the best gear possible, surely you would get the best shards possible asap and not waste 400m on vit stones or whatever.
I can only go off what I assume, I don't really know people who are in that situation to talk to, but a 45k hp barb with 100 defence levels would last longer than a 57k hp barb or whatever todays maximum HP is with 50 defence levels.
WTB Rank 9. I pay with special favours.
Some barbs prefer vit stones for HP -> more arma
Also vit stones are almost 1/3 the price of JOSD on HT :P[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Im guessing he used pots, charms, genies to actually get inside of the base since he is far ahead of the rest of the catas that come many seconds behind him... Hard to judge we dont see the whole sequence of what he was doing 30 seconds before this video shot...
Well You are assuming correct and obviously sage barbs are better pullers... Unfortunatelly Susa is demon, that in my eyes shouldnt change the fact that in tiger his survability is quite better than in human form and droping armageddon is auto charm tick, but like I said Susa isnt any good puller on LC server, he is just tanky cuz of gears... Totally agree with rest of the comments...
I hope your saying that his demon arma is ticking his charm or his lvl 10 arma which in that case you'de be correct but if your making a general statement of arma being auto charm tick your wrong. Seeing as a sage arma consumes 35% of your max hp as opposed to demon or a lvl 10 consuming 50%. (Just had to clear that up). As for being tanky, since he's a demon barb hes probably stated for "Damage Dealing"
(I say it in quotes because even as a demon barb they don't deal a lot of damage in tw due to archers and wizards having the range over the barb. That's more suited for pk rather than tw)
Since he is probably stated for "Damage Dealing" He doesn't have the points in vit to have the HP to back up the def lvl. Tw is all about balence in what you stat and shard. You can have to much Def and not enough hp where as it can be flipped as well and you have to much hp and not enough resistance and def.
To you saying he probably used all of his survival tricks before he got in the gate, it might might be a combination of him not spamming his damage reduction charms and crab meat enough and spamming his genie and apoth to much. Since he has an aggressive play style he probably has an itchy trigger finger as well and pops survival skills and items to often.
(You could say that's him playing defensively, but hes playing an aggressive defense which in the end hurts your survivability as opposed to spacing out your skills and items)
Lol the long post was longer than what i thought it would be.
Long story short even if Domgrath and I are the lead barbs we can survive pretty much all the way to the enemy base without having to go through ALL of our survival skills. We survive mostly on damage reduction charms and crab meat with an anti stun + Ironguard going into the gate to get positioned on the crystal. Very rarely do we need to go through the whole bag of tricks to just get the the gates..
@ Alpha alpha: yes i posted a lot more but it mysteriously disappeared from my screenouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
ouka__ - 103 vit barb- "Nom Nom I'm A Panda!"
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Ok, autocharm tick was maybe calling things wrong and hyperbolic... But yea going from 65% to 50% and charm ticking is just a manner of 1 hit by r8+10 dd... So its a big NO NO for catapuller that should think abt how to survive as long as he can... I exagarated in that post, but we agree on the effect in general...
As far as Susa's build he is prolly full vit build... I know he used to switch to dex build to use hh100 fist sometimes... This is what he did b4 PWIC tourney... Susa isnt a great pker or some great threat in TW as You could see on both videos he actually dies a lot when he is purged and correctly targetted, but on the Belkas video he was doing his job decoying and annoyig others...
I just believe Vengeful has good target system in defence... defence charms have cooldowns, hp pots recover little hp over time and if You are constantly stunned, purged and amped then its not enough... A purged barb in tiger form will have what like 25k hp? Such hp goes fast if You dont have any support.. IG lasts 12 seconds, invoke 20 seconds, solid shield can be purged and it doesnt diminish the dmg that much... If ur scouting is good and the defence meet you fast enough those 32 seconds wont be enough to run from binding stone to the gate as You have to avoid losing cata and You might get stunned on the way if You dont have any support... Well susa almost parked on the crystal... but only almostBecause size really MATTERS!!!0 -
Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Ok, autocharm tick was maybe calling things wrong and hyperbolic... But yea going from 65% to 50% and charm ticking is just a manner of 1 hit by r8+10 dd... So its a big NO NO for catapuller that should think abt how to survive as long as he can... I exagarated in that post, but we agree on the effect in general...
As far as Susa's build he is prolly full vit build... I know he used to switch to dex build to use hh100 fist sometimes... This is what he did b4 PWIC tourney... Susa isnt a great pker or some great threat in TW as You could see on both videos he actually dies a lot when he is purged and correctly targetted, but on the Belkas video he was doing his job decoying and annoyig others...
I just believe Vengeful has good target system in defence... defence charms have cooldowns, hp pots recover little hp over time and if You are constantly stunned, purged and amped then its not enough... A purged barb in tiger form will have what like 25k hp? Such hp goes fast if You dont have any support.. IG lasts 12 seconds, invoke 20 seconds, solid shield can be purged and it doesnt diminish the dmg that much... If ur scouting is good and the defence meet you fast enough those 32 seconds wont be enough to run from binding stone to the gate as You have to avoid losing cata and You might get stunned on the way if You dont have any support... Well susa almost parked on the crystal... but only almost
Theres more then just solid shield invoke and an ig. on top of this reduction charms have a cool down of 10 seconds which is still spamable. you don't move forward when your purged you move back to meet your cleric and buff or stand still and have your cleric buff you if they're alive. your skills are based on timing you don't pop a solid shield before you get purged... you pop it after the veno has used a purge or you pop an anti stun ig when you see the veno running up to you to avoid getting purged.
As you move down the path you move in a zig zagging jumping pattern where if you get stunned your stunned in the air where you wont hit with a HF which means less damage dealt to you. By this time your catapult has pretty much caught up to you. about 25k hp can go down pretty slowly still if you know what your doing to avoid getting hfed, which is the big killer on cata barbs. Hf followed up by a nuke. Even if im hfed i just pop solid shield and my high str genie allows me to live while hfed at which time i can kite back out of range of enemy dd get heals and rebuffed.
As for having no support.... There are very few times where its appropriate to run in and suicide to draw dd away (one being 3 way defense that lasts 3 hrs ). Your pullers shouldn't be running so far out to where they have no support. They should be near the front but not to far out. As for no support in the base the only time you have this is if you ran in the gate with your dd support far back anyway, or if your guild gets pushed out. Once your guild has absolute base control though its hard to get pushed out. (Note i said hard not impossible) By the time though if you get pushed out your 4 catas have dealt enough damage that your survival skills at this point should get you through.
The very original statement was him unable to tank 4-5 people lets just leave it at a bunch of us canouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
ouka__ - 103 vit barb- "Nom Nom I'm A Panda!"
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Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Obviously it shows radiance dont push to the 1st binding stone, dont build towers so You pretty much have less job to do in the 1st 5 minutes of tw... Radiance obviously needs to work out on strategy...
On side note I watched Your video from Starry Wilds TW... Nice metal maging... 1st rebuff after 3 minutes of war, 1 revive per whole TW, Your squad walks unbuffed, but You as a cleric dont give a damn, just looking for next tab target, eventually tempest... Ok cool few times You did rly cool dmg, but I guess You are playing wrong class... Only thing I liked was that You plum shell and kite back few times but You never ever select anyone in ur pt for heals, buffs, etc... EPs are support class, their job is mainly to heal, revive, rebuff, then to sleep, seal, 100 skill enemies. If You wanna see rly pro eps in action watch those 2 videos and keep in mind Your squad is effective if its buffed and You give them everything to have max survability:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWn0TULlxEo -> squad always revived, fully buffed, not to mention she switchs for guildmates outside from the party to do the same LOL. All enrage video's I've seen so far is just never using T, only tabbing and facerolling on the keyboard. Some1 please give me a good link for a rly pro TW with some rly wise player controlling it QQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HWCd-Pq13Q -> from enemy side... look how eps should play... roll some mage or psychic better imo...
2nd video, nice unbuffed, cursed and dead barbs, low HP too. Lrn2troll."Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Susa, enter the base without eps or any dd support, he gets purged and have 4-5 ppl hitting him... Obviously he will die in next 3 seconds... I see there are 2 more incoming catas, so she just press M, check where are other party members and move to meet incoming catas... Dunno what Luffy was doing and who he was hitting, cuz its not targeted, so hard for me to say why he did what he did.. On side note he is not the one using HF, he was was dragoned lol...
Abt the EP - what she was supposed to do in ur opinion? Drop on the ground and dd those barbs? She slept the ep, obviously those ppl from defence teams that just rolled Susa would reach those 2 barbs in few seconds... Few stuns, paralyzes, purges and 2-3 ppl hitting them none of them would reach the crystal anyway and the whole squad is still alive by the way she did it... Any better tips?
Also as Im pointing out... Both videos that I brought here were recorded on July, Tri-Force was the strongest faction by that time, having at least 20% more R9 players than Vengeful... You can check posts on LC section, even 2 months ago TF was considered as the strongest faction on the server... Why they couldnt beat Vengeful having gear advantadge and actually make a stronger faction play full defence vs a weaker guild? Gears can help a lot, but if You run around like a headless rooster it wont help at all...
Our barbs can tank your 4-5 people for the entire life of your HQ. Fail. Ouka/Dema/Dom/Wall/Kashin > LC barbs."Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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I'm sorry but this Wadzio person is starting to remind me of a certain BM on our server (not saying the name). It's a personal preference whether a barb shards their gear with JoSD or VIT stones. For me I already have like 60 def level (somewhere around that) so having like 35k hp on top of that makes for a good balance on it. The key to a good barb is finding the balance point between hp, def level, and resistances. If you get too unbalanced you will be screwed. Yes I get flattened quite a bit in TW but have never died to a small group of people. Think the fewest that killed me was like 2~3 full squads hammering away at me when I had little to no DD support and my cleric was killed. This was after I ran out of resources (apoth, mag resist charms, invoke, and my genie skills) or I was stunned where I couldn't use anything.
People have different playing styles but it seems that as of right now we will crush LC. This information is justified if their barbs can't even survive 4~5 players attacking them. Shoot I get atleast two squads on me when I am in the enemy base. Basically, I go through 2 platinum charms when our server actually has a good TW. If you put ouka, Matroskin, Domgrath, and myself as cata pullers against LC then that's GG. We win within 15~20 minutes easy.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Well maybe our dds just do the job better? Dont forget psychics use the flourish skill to reduce charm cooldown (so its not 10 seconds) and its a skill You cant purify, with purge, amp You will just die in few seconds... Enough to have 2 mages undine, genie spark and element weakness (on a 90+dex genie) Your fire def will be at 100 and You are just dead after they use 2 fire skills... Maybe Your dds are doing something wrong then? Maybe You should look more at genie skills?
Take note Susa is entering the base alone, Ouka. His ep is dead long time ago... He has nobody to support him, thats the reason why they are sending catas on side lanes, because they cant push on Lane B... So they are sending catas as decoy to make some of our dds move from lane b... He has pretty much nobody to run back to be rebuffed or supported... Thats the way Vengeful rolls it - kill all support class then play with the barb... Sorry to say, but barb without support is a death meat nothing else...
Ofc moving in zig zag is pretty obvious and everybody does it, still it doesnt prevent u to be stunned and paralyzed, no matter if u jump or not... The barb killer are the arcane users and hello even You are stunned in the air while jumping BM can still dragon You, its not like HF range is 0 and its not like You cant kill a barb without HF... I will also leave this without comment...
@Dema
Also take note I've never said Susa is the best catapuller on LC
Actually BobDevil, Wishess, Bad_Azz (this 3 are at 45-53k HP with full +12 sets including ornaments), Brazilianuts, Kelben are way better skilled, built and have way better hp/defences... Susa is not bad, he is tanky, but not as tanky as others... And like You are saying You could live through 2 squads when You had ep and some dds helping... Im sorry but alone with 35k hp, You wont live long... Watch the skill combos... I invite You to LC just to west gate... I show You this combo on Wishess (R9+12 josd barb with +12 g16 cube neck and +12 coa rings) and You will see that purged and with undine strike, elemental weakness+spark (genie skills) and veno amp just my pyrogram will hit him non crit for 10k+... 2 mages -> 4 skills -> 1 crit will do together 50k+... Because size really MATTERS!!!0 -
Arguing an unproveable point. If you can't be proven wrong, does that make you right? If you can't be proven right does that make you wrong?[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Well You got the point... Im not gonna say we would roll enrage in 15-20 mins and be so c0cky as some other ppl here... I think it would be a nice challenge and we could actually see different tactics in use and then in battlefield somehow prove which way is better. Not to mention TW classes we have in use are way different - LC has a lot of r9 psychics and less BMs in TW setup, HT seems to have loads of r9 BMs and few psychics... So far we gotta wait for such thing to happen to actually judge... I will leave it as it is... But metal mages are just NO NO for me and this is where actually the discussion started...SashaGray - Heavens Tear wrote: »Arguing an unproveable point. If you can't be proven wrong, does that make you right? If you can't be proven right does that make you wrong? Because size really MATTERS!!!0 -
Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »Well You got the point... Im not gonna say we would roll enrage in 15-20 mins and be so c0cky as some other ppl here... I think it would be a nice challenge and we could actually see different tactics in use and then in battlefield somehow prove which way is better. Not to mention TW classes we have in use are way different - LC has a lot of r9 psychics and less BMs in TW setup, HT seems to have loads of r9 BMs and few psychics... So far we gotta wait for such thing to happen to actually judge... I will leave it as it is... But metal mages are just NO NO for me and this is where actually the discussion started...
Enrage would roll LC in 10-15mins."Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory.
Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat." ~Sun Tzu
"Lennox Lewis, I'm coming for you man. My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
~Iron Mike Tyson Enrage.omgforum.net
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Because size really MATTERS!!!0
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Gm's will never do that cause its going to cost them to much money to copy and paste let alone make a new server just for the tw interserver fights. if there not going to make money off of it there not going to do it. ijs0
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You`re making a lot of mistakes in your arguments, Wadzio. Perfect example being this:
A mostly fully geared barb for HP (minus rings, will not give 5k hp no matter what)
http://pwcalc.com/bc2bdd007f2359c0
You say those barbs have 53k HP? Hmm..
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the highest i can manage is 49,681 and thats with out better rings with more custom "vit" stats...
still far cry from 53k, but aint bad still
http://pwcalc.com/3ee832772a424f4d[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Forest Wisdom gives same HP refining, but boost stats more (+10 vit, +10 str)
There are better tomes than just +20 vit, even Love Up and Down boost ur stats more.
Dont forget CoA rings give +8 vit each, You can also engrave with ancient emblems to gain +10/11 free stats from each ring.
There are better TW weapons than calamity axes or lunar axes... Like at least Pan Gu Giant axes to start with...
I will try to find BobDevil today on the server and make SS with his HP in tiger form buffed and SS his gears... From what I heard he is 50k+ HP barb, I heard also Fisga has such barb... But again those 2 arent from my guild... From my guild is Bad_Azz (demon barb full r9+12 in tiger form 45,9K hp he doesnt have advanced ring engraving, but full vit stones) i checked today... Count that if he was sage he would have 5% hp boost, cuz of sage true form and with advanced engraving breaking 50k is nothing... He is also lvl 103...Because size really MATTERS!!!0 -
http://pwcalc.com/663b04bb7b29b100 Dun think you can get any better than this hp wise0
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http://pwcalc.com/663b04bb7b29b100 Dun think you can get any better than this hp wise
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Lies, u got a +11 pangu0
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Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »You will see that purged and with undine strike, elemental weakness+spark (genie skills) and veno amp just my pyrogram will hit him non crit for 10k+... 2 mages -> 4 skills -> 1 crit will do together 50k+...
I'm quite aware that spark is a genie skill that reduces fire resistance, which is why i've been using my own skill to counteract that for months now
Barb pops soul of fire after you use genie skill spark and undine. Your 50k crit has just been negated... GG
To your earlier comment jumping in the air as the bm stuns which will get you at the max hieght of the jump right before your character descends. That bm will be unable to hf you since you are out of melee range. Now like you pointed out you can still be hfed if the bm isn't an idiot and targets someone on the ground near you, but you question how many bms are that smart to switch targets alot of them sit and wait for the target to come down out of the air. which by that time the bm has probably been stunned and killed or forced to retreat back.ouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
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So why ur str genie doesnt have it? :>Ouka - Heavens Tear wrote: »Barb pops soul of fire after you use genie skill spark and undine. Your 50k crit has just been negated... GG
Str genie and u wanna use solid shield, tree of protection and have 85 energy to use soul of fire... Nice nice... More theory please...Because size really MATTERS!!!0 -
Wadzio - Lost City wrote: »So why ur str genie doesnt have it? :>
Str genie and u wanna use solid shield, tree of protection and have 85 energy to use soul of fire... Nice nice... More theory please...
using genie gear i have over 100 str on genie and 65 vit to have 165 energy on a 80/100 LP genie
The higher the str the less energy required to use soul of fire and oxygen bubble and its 80 energy not 85.
as for tree some pullers use it but tree isn't that great against a guild like GD you want something to negate damage or reduce damage.
Tree would be more along the lines to force a charm tick to avoid getting hit with a 1 shot when amped and hfed. since alot of wizzie use fire or water skills to nuke pullers using soul of fire or oxygen bubble is a better substitute for tree.
Solid shield
Oxygen bubble
Soul of fire
and i never said my genie doesn't have it :P
I also have to say this is on of the only discussions that hasn't gone to flaming in a long whileouka - 101 HA veno - " Squeek, I'm A Fox!"
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To Enrage ppl: Next thing you know, Wadzio = Brian. He never told us who his wizzy was on LC was so......0
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