Sins in Boss Battles

The biggest thing is always discuss who will be the tank prior to starting the boss. After you steal aggro and died because the barb was getting the heals is not the time to say "maybe I should tank" and you have only yourself to blame if this happens. Further, your cleric would have to rez you and stop healing the barb... so you risk everyone doing that.

So, know what you can tank and what you can't. If you let the barb tank keep Rib strike on the boss and "damage modify" to not steal aggro. If you feel you are about to steal aggro then stop and self buff yourself with Focused Mind and Deaden Nerves. Avoid using things like Wolf Emblem to increase your damage. People will suggest equipping a bow, lower level daggers, removing -int pieces, or using Chill of the Deep all as ways to lower your damage but I consider that the lazy way of damage modifying. I prefer to keep the my gear on and the option of doing damage (what if you steal aggro and need your paint heals to survive until the cleric can stack you or you can shadow escape?) and instead skill spam. Sins that can support a squad by Rib Striking, Subseaing, or using Dagger Throw and Throatcut to interupt aoe's that may knock down a bb or endanger a squishy are priceless. Also, learning your interupt timing will really help when you are soloing later on.

Shadow Escape will actually remove 100% of aggro from you, but only if you have aggro when you use it. So alot of times if I grab aggro and don't want it I'll hit Extreme Poison to get a few more heals from my bloodpaint and solidify my aggro hold, then Shadow Escape. Then I can go back to DDing because I basically am starting with 0 aggro and the barb should have a huge lead. Watch out, Shadow Escape is now in cooldown so that trick won't work twice.

If you decide to tank, the barb can devour for you which lowers the bosses attack levels and defense, giving you better paint heals. I like using genie skills like Extreme Poison because it gives me 20% more heals and is spammable, unlike Tangling Mire which has a cooldown. I can also use it to lock aggro onto me by timing it for my sparks, since I'm holding aggro with damage.

With a squad around your level, the barb should be able to keep aggro or at least take it back before the 'aggro stealer' get killed...I suggest you check what the barb does and if you don't see him spamming flesh ream ask him to do so

taratulip wrote: »

This is priceless and useful info for me, Sakubatou! Thank you!

erm.. where is your guide?

Lol, yw. I don't have a sin guide but I do have a long-winded BM guide.

_Quaz_ - Archosaur wrote: »

With a squad around your level, the barb should be able to keep aggro or at least take it back before the 'aggro stealer' get killed...I suggest you check what the barb does and if you don't see him spamming flesh ream ask him to do so

This is true, however I tanked my own fb59 because a level 101 sage vit barb couldn't keep aggro off my level 61 sin and I had no problem tanking. In fact, his reaming was causing the boss to change aggro and move, but then decide to still hit me and I had to keep chasing the boss while tanking. That's an uncommon example but fail barbs do walk among us.

Sins tend to start ripping aggro more at 85+ and 90+ when they get H&Ts, -int capes, and 400+ dex so expect to tank around then but below 85 a barb should be able to hold aggro as long as you don't go crazy with DD.

_Quaz_ - Archosaur wrote: »

With a squad around your level, the barb should be able to keep aggro or at least take it back before the 'aggro stealer' get killed...I suggest you check what the barb does and if you don't see him spamming flesh ream ask him to do so

In my experience, good low-mid level barbs who run BHs do not exist...

Actually once I had one in BH51 (while I was leveling my mystic) who didn't do ANYTHING but human form DD. After we told him a couple times what to do, he said "*** U GUYS! I DIDNT KNOW I WAS A TANK WHEN I MADE THIS TOON!"

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Seriously? Well you're 60 now so you know. Either play like the freaking tank you are, get the hell out of BH and go back to FCC which you obviously did to get to 60 and know nothing about a barb, or reroll a DD.

_Perses_ - Lost City wrote: »

All i'm gonna add is when you get your sin to 89 and get demon or sage spark and start having interval gear easier to get....just be prepared to tank and expect the squads to think you are going to tank.

Sin's daggers are +7 Hitman Legends, and let's just say I basically solo the bosses before the people get to it thanks to triple holy path + wind push/maze steps x3

I agree on the "be prepared to tank" because as I barb I tried to tank until 99 (and succeeded most the time), and then 99+ I offered to try and hold aggro or I could just spam devour for the attack level reduction and pdef reduction so they had better heals, and gave them the choice. The funny thing is when I FCC'd my sin barbs everytime were liked "sins tanking" and didn't even try to hold aggro, lol. This was at level 80.

The second part I'm mixed about. I hate when "hotshots" run up and start a boss while others are clearing mobs or catching up because most bosses have a time limit (about 25 seconds) after being started before they do their special move. For instance fist FCC boss summons circles, second boss bubbles/sleeps, 4th boss summons bishops/purges, 5th shouts... And by the time the squad gets there the boss is already started their special attacks and now the squad has to deal with those rather than amp/dd. Its much faster to wait the 10 seconds, start together with full sparks and debuffs and knock the boss out before he starts doing the special moves. People do this in Nirvana, too, while people teleport room to room. By the time the rest of the squad gets there the buffs are uncoordinated, the boss is sealing, people fall short of their sparks... because one person was in a rush things take twice as long.

Massad - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't know how may times I would say... I AM NOT A TANK!!!!! Just an uber dd b:victory

And the biggest problem is that uber DD = aggro stealing = the tank b:sad

Massad - Harshlands wrote: »

I don't know how may times I would say... I AM NOT A TANK!!!!! Just an uber dd b:victory

^^ this +1